Lili Krakowski on sun 25 mar 07
Probably peeing into the claybin is emotionally satisfying, not to mention a
great relief.
(Years ago, when we had been away from the farm a while, I discovered one of
the red squirrels that were our attic tenants had peed on our mattress. As
I was cussing and fuming and saying: "Why, why,why? " my best buddy (who was
helping me ) remarked: "It had to go real bad!") So I expect the clay bin
has ancillary uses....
BUT, I agree with Bonnie that it is the addition of organic material that
helps the clay. Don't forget that most older potters remember much less
"refined" clay than we have today; clay that was dug and used, or dug,
screened for rocks and twigs, and then slaked and used. I keep my recycled
clay outdoors and definitely it improves from stuff falling in....
So when we handle clay, getting a bit of skin in it, or a bit of rotting
chamois, a few mosquitoes and so on, it improved. Adding vinegar--some
people add yogurt--speeds the process.
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
darrell calhoun on sun 25 mar 07
We added soda, usually Mello-Yello, to our clay in college. It smelled pretty sour but man was it super plastic.
Lili Krakowski wrote: Probably peeing into the claybin is emotionally satisfying, not to mention a
great relief.
(Years ago, when we had been away from the farm a while, I discovered one of
the red squirrels that were our attic tenants had peed on our mattress. As
I was cussing and fuming and saying: "Why, why,why? " my best buddy (who was
helping me ) remarked: "It had to go real bad!") So I expect the clay bin
has ancillary uses....
BUT, I agree with Bonnie that it is the addition of organic material that
helps the clay. Don't forget that most older potters remember much less
"refined" clay than we have today; clay that was dug and used, or dug,
screened for rocks and twigs, and then slaked and used. I keep my recycled
clay outdoors and definitely it improves from stuff falling in....
So when we handle clay, getting a bit of skin in it, or a bit of rotting
chamois, a few mosquitoes and so on, it improved. Adding vinegar--some
people add yogurt--speeds the process.
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
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John Rodgers on sun 25 mar 07
Lilli,
Years ago I gave the wife for Christmas a beautiful pair of mukluks -
Native Alaskan made Eskimo boots. They had Oogruk (bearded seal) flipper
hide for the soles, sealskin uppers, and the shin portion was wolf from
the ankles to the knees. Trim was beaver and wolverine. 100 percent
urine tanned hide and furs. Those were some very fine boots. Worked
great that winter. She loved them ........until spring when the weather
warmed up. We got to smelling something foul in the house - and she
complained specifically that it smelled like "pee". I cleaned the
bathroom and the toilet repeatedly to be sure it was not there. the
smell got worse. I was cleaning up and putting away the winter boots
when I discovered the source of "the big stink". It was those mukluks. I
put them in a perforated plastic bag, then in a screen wire box, and
stored them under the house where it was very cool. The smell in the
house disappeared.
In Alaska, there was a saying - Don't eat yellow snow!! With good
reason!! So, with those memories, I refrain from the practice of
making yellow clay, but I add my throwing water, which gets very stinky.
I also add my scrapings from my containers of clay to which I have
added vinegar, or magic water. By the time it is all mixed and aged, it
is real nice. . I slake the clay with enough water to stand an inch or
so deep on top of the clay in a bucket. I beat the clay with a mixer
then let it sand for months, even years. I then spread it on my plaster
table to dry a bit. In the old days I would hand sedge it, but now I pug
it along with some new clay added.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Lili Krakowski wrote:
> Probably peeing into the claybin is emotionally satisfying, not to
> mention a
> great relief.
>
> (Years ago, when we had been away from the farm a while, I discovered
> one of
> the red squirrels that were our attic tenants had peed on our
> mattress. As
> I was cussing and fuming and saying: "Why, why,why? " my best buddy
> (who was
> helping me ) remarked: "It had to go real bad!") So I expect the clay bin
> has ancillary uses....
>
> BUT, I agree with Bonnie that it is the addition of organic material that
> helps the clay. Don't forget that most older potters remember much less
> "refined" clay than we have today; clay that was dug and used, or dug,
> screened for rocks and twigs, and then slaked and used. I keep my
> recycled
> clay outdoors and definitely it improves from stuff falling in....
>
> So when we handle clay, getting a bit of skin in it, or a bit of rotting
> chamois, a few mosquitoes and so on, it improved. Adding vinegar--some
> people add yogurt--speeds the process.
>
>
>
>
> Lili Krakowski
> Be of good courage
>
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Jim Brooks on sun 25 mar 07
If you are going to do this ---- PLEASE----- Keep the clay for yourself
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Eric Hansen on mon 26 mar 07
Not the way I heard it at KCAI. You're supposed to
drink a case of beer THEN pee in the clay.
Not my problem though. What I can't find is a good
"short" stoneware out of the bag
H A M B O N E 'eric hansen'
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Ric Swenson on mon 26 mar 07
Tanning with urine is an old method of curing.....and chewing with the spit=
of the mouth..... pee smells more of course.
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I gave the wife for Christmas a beautiful pair of mukluks -> Native Alaskan=
made Eskimo boots. They had Oogruk (bearded seal) flipper> hide for the so=
les, sealskin uppers, and the shin portion was wolf from> the ankles to the=
knees. Trim was beaver and wolverine. 100 percent> urine tanned hide and f=
urs. Those were some very fine boots. Worked> great that winter. She loved =
them ........until spring when the weather> warmed up. We got to smelling s=
omething foul in the house - and she> complained specifically that it smell=
ed like "pee". I cleaned the> bathroom and the toilet repeatedly to be sure=
it was not there. the> smell got worse. I was cleaning up and putting away=
the winter boots> when I discovered the source of "the big stink". It was =
those mukluks. I> put them in a perforated plastic bag, then in a screen wi=
re box, and> stored them under the house where it was very cool. The smell =
in the> house disappeared.> > > In Alaska, there was a saying - Don't eat y=
ellow snow!! With good> reason!! So, with those memories, I refrain from th=
e practice of> making yellow clay, but I add my throwing water, which gets =
very stinky.> I also add my scrapings from my containers of clay to which I=
have> added vinegar, or magic water. By the time it is all mixed and aged,=
it> is real nice. . I slake the clay with enough water to stand an inch or=
> so deep on top of the clay in a bucket. I beat the clay with a mixer> the=
n let it sand for months, even years. I then spread it on my plaster> table=
to dry a bit. In the old days I would hand sedge it, but now I pug> it alo=
ng with some new clay added.> > Regards,> > John Rodgers> Chelsea, AL> > > =
Lili Krakowski wrote:> > Probably peeing into the claybin is emotionally sa=
tisfying, not to> > mention a> > great relief.> >> > (Years ago, when we ha=
d been away from the farm a while, I discovered> > one of> > the red squirr=
els that were our attic tenants had peed on our> > mattress. As> > I was cu=
ssing and fuming and saying: "Why, why,why? " my best buddy> > (who was> > =
helping me ) remarked: "It had to go real bad!") So I expect the clay bin> =
> has ancillary uses....> >> > BUT, I agree with Bonnie that it is the addi=
tion of organic material that> > helps the clay. Don't forget that most old=
er potters remember much less> > "refined" clay than we have today; clay th=
at was dug and used, or dug,> > screened for rocks and twigs, and then slak=
ed and used. I keep my> > recycled> > clay outdoors and definitely it impro=
ves from stuff falling in....> >> > So when we handle clay, getting a bit o=
f skin in it, or a bit of rotting> > chamois, a few mosquitoes and so on, i=
t improved. Adding vinegar--some> > people add yogurt--speeds the process.>=
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Jeanette Harris on mon 26 mar 07
>Tanning with urine is an old method of curing.....and chewing with
>the spit of the mouth..... pee smells more of course.
>
>
>
>
>I grew up in Anchorage.
>
>
>Ric
>
On a trip to New Orleans, I visited an early plantation that grew
indigo for dye pigment. The lady who was demonstrating the process
said that the house was built with a sleeping quarters in a separate
wing for the boys in the family. The main reason for this was in
order to collect their urine in chamber pots to use in processing the
indigo. Seems that pre-pubescent boy's 'products' were preferred.
She couldn't tell me why.
It was also known from ancient times that urine can be a powerful
antiseptic in a battlefield emergency; it can also suppress bleeding.
Since urine is sterile when it is first produced, it can save lives
of as a replacement for water in the desert or during sea strandings.
And, in the case of sea urchin, jellyfish and other marine-life
stings, it relieves the pain. (Windex and meat tenderizer will also
work.) The ammonia content is part of the reason here.
Jeanette,
The Queen of Trivia, but not of the desert. ; )
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Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA
James Hunter on tue 27 mar 07
Dear Group,
Other than possibly creating an odor, peeing in the clay is harmless.
As a little boy, I can tell you I peed in the bathtub more than once. I
was in the bathtub when my little brother peed in the bathtub more than
once. I finally refused to take a bath with him when I was 5.
I can remember one of the first times my sister put both of her kids in
the bathtub at the same time. They were about 2 and 3.
The next thing she saw was Ja getting up on his knees and peeing right
there in tub at the same time Carrie had her mouth under the water getting
a mouth full of water and spitting it out.
Being the overprotective mother she was, she freaked out. She called our
mother first and was told don't worry about it, she had never heard of any
child dying from drinking bathtub pee water. When she did not get any
sympathy mother she called me....I just laughed and said I wish I could
have been there to see her reaction, that made her madder.
When nobody would help with her soon to be dying pee drinking baby, she
called the emergency room at the hospital. The ER Doctor on duty assured
her that even though urine has an awful smell, it is completely sterile.
He told her that there are no germs or bacteria in urine unless the person
eliminating has some type of infection in the urinary tract after the
matter leaves the kidneys.
We still bring this up to my sister when we think she is over reacting
with the kids and they are both grown now!
I think if there is anybody with a medical background is on the list they
will substantiate the fact that other than the smell that may develop, pee
clay is harmless.
Let us know how it throws. I might consider peeing in my clay if there
was significant positive difference in throwing ability. My skills need
all the help they can gather!
James Hunter
Beth Spindler on wed 28 mar 07
LOL LOL Love this post...can't stop laughing as I was one of those freaked out moms!!!!!
Beth in VA
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Subject: Re: Peeing in the clay
Dear Group,
Other than possibly creating an odor, peeing in the clay is harmless.
As a little boy, I can tell you I peed in the bathtub more than once. I
was in the bathtub when my little brother peed in the bathtub more than
once. I finally refused to take a bath with him when I was 5.
I can remember one of the first times my sister put both of her kids in
the bathtub at the same time. They were about 2 and 3.
The next thing she saw was Ja getting up on his knees and peeing right
there in tub at the same time Carrie had her mouth under the water getting
a mouth full of water and spitting it out.
Being the overprotective mother she was, she freaked out. She called our
mother first and was told don't worry about it, she had never heard of any
child dying from drinking bathtub pee water. When she did not get any
sympathy mother she called me....I just laughed and said I wish I could
have been there to see her reaction, that made her madder.
When nobody would help with her soon to be dying pee drinking baby, she
called the emergency room at the hospital. The ER Doctor on duty assured
her that even though urine has an awful smell, it is completely sterile.
He told her that there are no germs or bacteria in urine unless the person
eliminating has some type of infection in the urinary tract after the
matter leaves the kidneys.
We still bring this up to my sister when we think she is over reacting
with the kids and they are both grown now!
I think if there is anybody with a medical background is on the list they
will substantiate the fact that other than the smell that may develop, pee
clay is harmless.
Let us know how it throws. I might consider peeing in my clay if there
was significant positive difference in throwing ability. My skills need
all the help they can gather!
James Hunter
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Bob Hanlin on wed 28 mar 07
When I was in college our Ceramics Prof. told of a tale in the far east (China, Korea or Japan) where the clay was so perfect and the secret was that little boys urinated in the mix to improve the workability of the clay. Older children and grown people's wee wouldn't help. My son was grown then so I didn't try it.
Bob
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