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Judy Lee on thu 7 dec 06


A year ago I purchased a used kiln (Crucible Oval) and studio supplies from=
an artist getting out of the pottery business. He also had a very old tes=
t kiln that he 'threw in' for $100. Although it works great for my bisque =
and low fire tests, it does not go to cone 6. I need help from you experts =
on Clay Art to tell me how to get it so it will go to cone 6--or tell me to=
give up!=0A=0ADetails:=0AThermo Lite Kiln, model 414, volts 110, amps 15=
=0AMax. Temp: 2000 (you would think this would tell me something, but I wo=
n't give up)=0AMfg: WD Burt Manufacturing Company, PO Box 353, Fairfax CA 9=
4930=0AInside: 13.5" diameter, 7.25" high=0AOrton Kiln Sitter=0A=0AI tried =
to find the manufacturer to no avail. Then I called Seattle Pottery Supply=
and they suggested it might just be that I needed higher temp elements. S=
o I ordered elements that would go to cone 6 (~2232 F) and put them in, mak=
ing sure the wiring was correct. I have used it 5-6 times since then to go=
to bisque temp (both cone 08 and 05) and it works fine. But everytime I tr=
y to do cone 6, it does not melt the cone in the kiln sitter and therefore =
does not turn off. Since the original maximum temperature on the label on =
the outside of the kiln says "max. temp: 2000 F", should I assume it will n=
ever go higher than that, even though I have put new elements in it?=0A=0AW=
e have checked the plug and circuit feeding the outlet. All appear to be f=
unctioning properly. At this point I don't know what else to try. Any sugg=
estions would be welcome. Thanks, =0A =0AJudy=0A~~~~~~~~~~=0Ajudylee947@ya=
hoo.com=0A=0A=0A =0A_______________________________________________________=
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Erik Harmon on fri 8 dec 06


I've heard on old china doll type kilns that the brick itself does not survive past a certain rating? Have you tried adding a layer of fiber as insulation?
Erik

Judy Lee wrote:
A year ago I purchased a used kiln (Crucible Oval) and studio supplies from an artist getting out of the pottery business. He also had a very old test kiln that he 'threw in' for $100. Although it works great for my bisque and low fire tests, it does not go to cone 6. I need help from you experts on Clay Art to tell me how to get it so it will go to cone 6--or tell me to give up!

Details:
Thermo Lite Kiln, model 414, volts 110, amps 15
Max. Temp: 2000 (you would think this would tell me something, but I won't give up)
Mfg: WD Burt Manufacturing Company, PO Box 353, Fairfax CA 94930
Inside: 13.5" diameter, 7.25" high
Orton Kiln Sitter

I tried to find the manufacturer to no avail. Then I called Seattle Pottery Supply and they suggested it might just be that I needed higher temp elements. So I ordered elements that would go to cone 6 (~2232 F) and put them in, making sure the wiring was correct. I have used it 5-6 times since then to go to bisque temp (both cone 08 and 05) and it works fine. But everytime I try to do cone 6, it does not melt the cone in the kiln sitter and therefore does not turn off. Since the original maximum temperature on the label on the outside of the kiln says "max. temp: 2000 F", should I assume it will never go higher than that, even though I have put new elements in it?

We have checked the plug and circuit feeding the outlet. All appear to be functioning properly. At this point I don't know what else to try. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks,

Judy
~~~~~~~~~~
judylee947@yahoo.com



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Marcia Selsor on fri 8 dec 06


I had a crucible oval for ages and dealt with Seattle Pottery for 30
years. Good folks.
As for the Thermo Lite test kiln, I would suggest insulating it. You
could do a "Linda Blossom" and take the jacket off, put a layer of
fiber and replace the jacket. I'd spray the lid inside with ITC and
cover the lid when firning with an inch more fiber. I have a little
crucible test kiln that goes to ^7 on 110 in about 5 hours.
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com


On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Judy Lee wrote:

> A year ago I purchased a used kiln (Crucible Oval) and studio
> supplies from an artist getting out of the pottery business. He
> also had a very old test kiln that he 'threw in' for $100.
> Although it works great for my bisque and low fire tests, it does
> not go to cone 6. I need help from you experts on Clay Art to tell
> me how to get it so it will go to cone 6--or tell me to give up!
>
> Details:
> Thermo Lite Kiln, model 414, volts 110, amps 15
> Max. Temp: 2000 (you would think this would tell me something, but
> I won't give up)
> Mfg: WD Burt Manufacturing Company, PO Box 353, Fairfax CA 94930
> Inside: 13.5" diameter, 7.25" high
> Orton Kiln Sitter
>
> I tried to find the manufacturer to no avail. Then I called
> Seattle Pottery Supply and they suggested it might just be that I
> needed higher temp elements. So I ordered elements that would go
> to cone 6 (~2232 F) and put them in, making sure the wiring was
> correct. I have used it 5-6 times since then to go to bisque temp
> (both cone 08 and 05) and it works fine. But everytime I try to do
> cone 6, it does not melt the cone in the kiln sitter and therefore
> does not turn off. Since the original maximum temperature on the
> label on the outside of the kiln says "max. temp: 2000 F", should I
> assume it will never go higher than that, even though I have put
> new elements in it?
>
> We have checked the plug and circuit feeding the outlet. All
> appear to be functioning properly. At this point I don't know what
> else to try. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks,
>
> Judy
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> judylee947@yahoo.com
>
>

Arnold Howard on fri 8 dec 06


Judy, your kiln is about the size of a Paragon X-14J china
painting kiln. It, too, is low fire only.

I don't think you will get it to cone 6 on 120 volts. You
could convert it to 240 volts, but it may be less expensive
and time consuming to sell it and find a used test kiln.

A 6"-cube 120 volt kiln will easily reach cone 6. You can
use them for anything--silver jewelry, stoneware testing,
copper enameling, glass fusing, etc.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Lee"
He also had a very old test kiln that he 'threw in' for
$100. Although it works great for my bisque and low fire
tests, it does not go to cone 6.

Since the original maximum temperature on the label on the
outside of the kiln says "max. temp: 2000 F", should I
assume it will never go higher than that, even though I have
put new elements in it?