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ceramic fiber regidisizer

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Deborah Grant on sat 21 oct 06


Somehow my last message to the list didn't make it. I hope this one will. I
am still hoping that someone will tell me what is the rigidisizer that you
can use on super wool. It must be able to withstand temp to at least cone
10.

Thanks in advance,

Debby Grant

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threereeds1 on sat 21 oct 06


Debby,
I use Fiberfrax Rigidizer a Unifrax product. Part # 734611100. I am
guessing that superwool is a Kaowool type product? Check your phone
book , yellow pages, refractory suppliers. Someone there will sell you
a gallon of rigidizer. Most of this type product will be rated for 2300 F.
Don't sweat the other 42 or so degrees. Be careful using this stuff. The
warning on mine simply said that it contains silica, but it etched the
concrete
driveway and turned steel angle black in a blink. Many think that this is
mostly or all sodium silicate.

Good luck with your project,
Tom King

----- Original Message -----
From: "Deborah Grant"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:42 AM
Subject: Ceramic Fiber regidisizer


Somehow my last message to the list didn't make it. I hope this one will. I
am still hoping that someone will tell me what is the rigidisizer that you
can use on super wool. It must be able to withstand temp to at least cone
10.

Thanks in advance,

Debby Grant

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Frank Colson on sun 22 oct 06


Please note, you all! The most effective "RIGIDIZER" for any application
using ceramic fiber is "collidial silica" which is produced through
ionization of "sodium siclica" This is the generic name for this material
which is sold on the market under numerous product names at a fraction of
the costs that people in the craft, and craft related fields (glass) buy it
for
from clay suppliers. It does not have "silica" in it! I have used clear
liquid collidal silica for endless applications for more than 4 decades.
For example, one of my electric kiln lids, started to crack. I simple
applied collicial silica into the crack; after the next firing, Bingo! The
lid is repaired totally, no more cracking or shifting movement of the kiln
lid. I could do an entire list of related applications. And the best part
is that my costs is about $2.00 per quart!

Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "threereeds1"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Ceramic Fiber regidisizer


> Debby,
> I use Fiberfrax Rigidizer a Unifrax product. Part # 734611100. I am
> guessing that superwool is a Kaowool type product? Check your phone
> book , yellow pages, refractory suppliers. Someone there will sell you
> a gallon of rigidizer. Most of this type product will be rated for 2300
> F.
> Don't sweat the other 42 or so degrees. Be careful using this stuff. The
> warning on mine simply said that it contains silica, but it etched the
> concrete
> driveway and turned steel angle black in a blink. Many think that this is
> mostly or all sodium silicate.
>
> Good luck with your project,
> Tom King
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deborah Grant"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:42 AM
> Subject: Ceramic Fiber regidisizer
>
>
> Somehow my last message to the list didn't make it. I hope this one will.
> I
> am still hoping that someone will tell me what is the rigidisizer that you
> can use on super wool. It must be able to withstand temp to at least cone
> 10.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Debby Grant
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Lori Pierce on mon 23 oct 06


Goodmorning Frank,

where would I purchase 'colloidal silica'. I do know of a place in Rockland,
Maine that makes colloidal products but do not know what they produce. When I
lived on the island I used to boil seaweed to create a clear colorless
glue-like mixture for shaping rice paper over stone but I have not researched how to
ionize ! Or considered using it to repair kiln lids! I needed no parting
agent for the rice paper; it lifted off clean after drying and left no
discernible residue. Can you shed a little more light?

It has been many years since we met and I saw your fascinating home and
workplace in the palm grove, but I remember both you and your gracious wife with
pleasure. Hello again.

and Thank you. Lori Pierce, now in Florida also, but on the other coast

Frank Colson on mon 23 oct 06


Lori- I just sent several postings giving sources for Col.Sil. Ck. current
postings to others for answer to same ? Here are 3 of the biggest
companies where you can get this, 1 gallon to 55 gal. drum: NALCO, REMET,
HARBISON-WALKER

Frank-
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lori Pierce"
To:
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Ceramic Fiber regidisizer


> Goodmorning Frank,
>
> where would I purchase 'colloidal silica'. I do know of a place in
> Rockland,
> Maine that makes colloidal products but do not know what they produce.
> When I
> lived on the island I used to boil seaweed to create a clear colorless
> glue-like mixture for shaping rice paper over stone but I have not
> researched how to
> ionize ! Or considered using it to repair kiln lids! I needed no parting
> agent for the rice paper; it lifted off clean after drying and left no
> discernible residue. Can you shed a little more light?
>
> It has been many years since we met and I saw your fascinating home and
> workplace in the palm grove, but I remember both you and your gracious
> wife with
> pleasure. Hello again.
>
> and Thank you. Lori Pierce, now in Florida also, but on the other
> coast
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
>