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## 45 pound casserole

### David Hendley on thu 13 jul 06

It's ART, Bonnie.
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David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com

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----- Original Message -----
Mention was made recently about a 45 pound casserole in a post. Whew, is
there a housewife who could or would heft such a pot, with the added weight
of the food inside. Either the pot is very thick or it is quite large. I
am questioning why one would make such a pot.

### Bonnie Staffel on thu 13 jul 06

Dear Clayarters,

Mention was made recently about a 45 pound casserole in a post. Whew, =
is
there a housewife who could or would heft such a pot, with the added =
weight
of the food inside. Either the pot is very thick or it is quite large. =
I
am questioning why one would make such a pot. When my friend, Floy =
Shaffer,
was living and early in our careers, she made a low wide casserole which
seemed quite large for general use, however a local turkey farm lady =
bought
it from the museum show and she baked her famous turkey casserole in it =
to
feed a large group of friends at Thanksgiving. Still, it probably =
weighed
no more than 15 or 20 pounds. =20

I have always followed the rule that "form follows function" when =
creating
functional pots. Even the big pots that I made that were 25" tall X 20"
wide, were light enough for me to pick up and move at my age, where in
comparison, I can hardly lift a 25 pound bag of clay. (Easy for the =
younger
ones, I know.) =20

Just thinking that there is something wrong here - have I missed the =
point?
45 pounds of clay could make an enormous casserole, but where would one =
bake
it, a commercial oven? Anyone have the size of this casserole?

Warm regards,

Bonnie Staffel

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### Ivor and Olive Lewis on sat 15 jul 06

Dear Bonnie Staffel,=20

What was the cubic capacity of the Casseroles you made ?

Best regards,

Ivor

### Tom at Hutchtel.net on sat 15 jul 06

C'mon folks.....Tony C stated it clearly, these are functional pots but not
used for function. As he has said, he is moving the pot out of the kitchen,
into the living room. My immediate thought is that maybe this is the
problem that potters have....myself included,....and our customers,
too....we think only ii terms of function. Historically pots have been
mostly used for functional purposes, but Tony's point is that you take that
out of the equation, the pot can change, and the price for decorative has no
comparison limit like functional does. Teapot makers understood this a long
time ago. People will pay more for a 45 lb statement casserole for the for
the living room coffee table, than they will for actual cooking.

To comment on another note, Tony and I never suggested just raising prices
to milk the market (although what's wrong with that...good marketing implies
charge what the market will bear)...we always intended that the quality and
design must improve to warrant the price increase.

Sorry for the delay in replying. We're in the middle of a major house
remodel and addition...in anticipation of Tony and Sheila's visit.

Tom Wirt

### Bonnie Staffel on sun 16 jul 06

Dear Ivor,

I do not know the cubic capacity, as I use the quart measuring system =
here
in the US. The largest casserole I make is 3 quarts. That usually =
suffices
for the average family dinner table. I also make one quart size for =
wedding
gifts which serve two easily, then two quart. The shape ranges from =
short
and wide, to tall and rounded, depending on what I want to do. The best
shape for oven ware is rounded as the heat can dissipate more easily.
However, I have also made cylindrical casseroles mostly in the one quart
size.

Hope this answers your question.

Regards, Bonnie Staffel

http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
DVD Throwing with Coils and Slabs
DVD Beginning Processes
Charter Member Potters Council

### Ivor and Olive Lewis on tue 18 jul 06

Dear Bonnie Staffel,=20

Those values sound to me as being of the right order for a good meal. I =
like those with a "Globe form"

Are you aware that it is possible to suggest the Sex of the maker of a =
casserole by examining the Form of a Casserole? ?

I was looking through "Handbook for Australian Potters". Page 184 gives =
some values for the mass of clay for various utensils. Gave about 21/4 =
kilo for a small casserole and 3 kilo for a larger one.

Thanks for your answer.

Best regards,

Ivor