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betty woodman retrospective at ny met

updated tue 2 may 06

 

Linda Ferzoco on fri 28 apr 06


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/28/arts/design/28wood.html

I confess that her name is new to me but from what I
can see in the article, it would be worth seeing her
vessels. It's interesting that she is the first
living clay craft/artist to have a solo retrospective
at the Met.

I guess I'll just be encouraged that it's happened at
all.

Cheers, Linda

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education, A. Einstein (1879 -1955)

Nettie Penman on mon 1 may 06


Those of us from Boulder CO know Betty Woodman very well. She started and
shaped the local Pottery Lab that has been part of the city Rec department
for 50 years now. The fact that she is having a retrospective at the Met is
fantastic! I find it very exciting that a woman has made it to the top of
the ceramic arts field. I always wondered why when every ceramics class or
workshop that I attended was usually about 80% women did it seem that it was
the male ceramic artists who got the acclaim/visibility. Anyway, it's great
to see her being acknowledged! I don't have the statistics to back up this
statement, but a few years ago I was told that her pieces sell for more
money than any other living ceramicist. To hear her speak about her work is
really a treat. She talks about it from all perspectives - material, form,
line, color, texture, intent, influences, references. She's truly thoughtful
and inspirational.

A couple of months ago the Boulder Pottery Lab that is located in an old
firestation and has served literally thousands of people had its 50th
anniversary. Betty was there as well as others whose names you might
recognize. Nancy Utterback is currently running the Pottery Lab. She is
doing a bang-up job of it too. Check out
http://www.boulderweekly.com/archive/053002/artflash.html to read something
about Nancy. Unfortunately, last week the Boulder Daily Camera carried an
article about how the lab could be cut from the city budget next year due to
lack of funds. CUT!!!! unthinkable. . . . where in the heck are our
priorities? I have so many fond memories of many many hours at the lab
learning to fire, mix glazes, etc., etc., not to mention meeting the best
folks around. So I feel I owe a lot to Betty Woodman. How would I have made
it through my 20s and 30s without the lab?

If you have a chance to see the exhibit, do it!! You might love or hate it,
but if you give it a chance it will expand your ideas about ceramic art.
Another note - even though this is being called a retrospective, Betty was
still working on pieces for the exhibit as recently as two or three months
ago. It won't be a bunch of stale pots, for sure!

Nettie

Nettie Penman
www.architecturalelements.biz




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> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:49:28 -0500
> From: mel jacobson
> Subject: china tiny saga
>
> i was just thinking of the many things that one sees on
> a trip to china and japan. if you like clay, things of clay....you see
> it all.
>
> it reminds me of the gary larson cartoon...`teacher, i have to go home,
> my brain is full.`
>
> i sure filled my brain looking and being in china. po was very good
> and showing us the `best of the best`.
>
> people making things of clay.
> the great pots in the great museums.
> old universities, new universities.
> art schools the size of the university of michigan. the entire
> university.
> we saw how old pots were made, we saw new pots being
> made, we saw wonderful old sculpture of clay, we saw
> wonderful new sculpture made of clay.
>
> we saw old buildings, new buildings...tall buildings 100+ stories.
> we rode a train that went 436 KM and hour.
> we rode on buses as old as my mother.
> we walked on that old wall around china.
>
> we talked to many people involved in clay. nice people..eager
> people...they wanted to meet us. talk about what is going
> on in american art, european art....nice folks...just like potters.
>
> they want to share what they have...the old and the new.
> so.
> my brain is full.
> i have to sort it all out.
> mel
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:55:52 -0700
> From: Susan Coville
> Subject: Re: bright strong orange high fire oxid. glaze
>
> Tae, The material represented by RIO in my circle of clay is Red Iron
> Oxide. Susan
>
> Tae Kim wrote: hi all
>
> anybody know a recipe for a strong bright orange high fire oxid. glaze
> that
> can go over light green color?
>
> i guess i could go buy one from local ceramics store, but i rather make my
> own....
>
> i found this
>
> http://www.potters.org/subject45683.htm
>
> on line, but i didn't know what she meant by RIO, is that like a mason
> stain?
>
> what would happen if i put duncan underglaze on already fired piece?
>
> thanks
>
>
> Tae
>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:45:41 -0700
> From: Susan P
> Subject: Re: clayart messages
>
> a very big LOL!
>
> On 4/27/06, mel jacobson wrote:
>>
>> they are still having trouble at acers.
>>
>> \they have a new staff manning the tech dept.
>> no history.
>> i don't even know who they are.
>> i have calls in.
>> so.
>> it will be awhile til it is all settled.
>> hey, at least my posts go out.
>> (hush, don't fret. use the delete key.)
>> and't don't whine to me...call gail phillips.
>> she is charge of the western world.
>> mel
>>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:46:39 -0700
> From: Susan P
> Subject: Re: school story/the phone
>
> and a very big Oops! for the big LOL that should have been on this email
> an=
> d
> not the other!
>
> On 4/27/06, Arnold Howard wrote:
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mel jacobson"
>> > i ordered the fathers phone numbers book. and
>> > bobby goldberg was the
>> > first kid to tell me to `go and fuc$ myself...``
>> > the judge was the first
>> > call.
>>
>> I should have used this idea when I taught karate in
>> the Dallas public school system. My adventure in the
>> gang-infested areas was like entering the movies "Up
>> the Down Staircase" or "Dangerous Minds." Every few
>> days I stopped a fist fight. One time a kid was shot
>> in front of the school while I was there.
>>
>> That type of teaching job is a wonderful weight-loss
>> program. At lunch time, I guarantee that you won't
>> have an appetite.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Arnold Howard
>> Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
>> ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
>>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:44:40 -0700
> From: Elizabeth Priddy
> Subject: Re: school story/the phone
>
> That is like the "at-risk" program I ran for a few
> years before getting pregnant. The real reason I
> handed the program off to my assistant was that I was
> not willing to work in that environment while pregnant
> or while the kid was too young to make it ok without
> mom.
>
> One of the kids I taught was about 6'4 already at 15
> and violent. He grabbed a kid by the neck and was
> choking him in the bathroom when he was caught and
> permanently expelled. He did it, according to the
> other kids, because the kid was disrespecting him and
> wouldn't shut up. I was familiar with both and I
> guarantee that the kid was in fact disrespecting him
> and wouldn;'t shut up, as I had also had the urge to
> snatch him up by the neck, which is why I relate to
> the kids in the program. Difference is I am not a
> sociopath and so I have the self control to remove
> myself or the kid from the room if it gets like that
> and my large and violent charge did not. I hope he's
> ok whreever he is. The mouthy one is doomed to a few
> beat-downs until he learns to shut up at appropriate
> times. Sometimes real life is hard, nasty, brutish,
> and short. And still it goes on.
>
> And yet, in a few years, I will be all in with those
> kids again, cause they need people who understand them
> to give them a chance. It will definitely give you
> the chills in your gut once in a while and I keep my
> back to the wall in class with them...but I knew a lot
> of violence when I came up too and I turned out
> alright and productive in society and all. So they
> are worth it.
>
> But I would never look askance at anyone who didn't
> have the little bit of crazy it takes to work with
> them. It's called self-preservation and I could do
> with a little more of that my own fine self.
>
> E
>
> mourning the sudden loss of a family friend who had
> the same endocrine problem i have and so i am looking
> through a glass darkly today.
>
>
> Elizabeth Priddy
>
> Beaufort, NC - USA
> http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
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> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:47:17 -0700
> From: Elizabeth Priddy
> Subject: how much for a used AAC kickwheel
>
> I need to know the going rate for American art clay
> concrete and tubular steel construction kickwheels.
>
> Anyone sell or buy one recently?
>
> E
>
> Elizabeth Priddy
>
> Beaufort, NC - USA
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> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:10:21 -0700
> From: steve blankenbeker
> Subject: Re: making your own stamps - SUPER FAST-SUPER EASY
>
> World's fastest stamp.
>
> Go to Lowes and get Quick Set 5 minute epoxy for about
> $3.00. Take stiff wet clay, roll out a slab. Carve
> your design in the clay. Mix up the epoxy, pour it
> into the impression, working from one end to the other
> to not trap air bubbles. Then take a piece of then
> cardboard or something thin and straight edged and
> level off the epoxy. After about ten minutes peel it
> out. The longer it sits around the harder it gets.
> You can experiment with the two part mix to get a more
> pliable or more rigid imprint design. Works really
> well.
>
> steve
>
> --- leta troppmann wrote:
>
>> Candy,
>> I also would like the instructions!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leta Medina
>> yishkabob@sbcglobal.net
>>
>> val wrote:
>> Thanks Canday,
>> I would love the process instructions.
>> You are a doll
>> Val
>> val@tlaz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Would love to hear about the process!
>>
>> Susan near Seattle
>>
>> On 4/26/06, candy murguia
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > IF you are interested in making your own rubber
>> stamps, there is a
>> > material you can buy, that sets up under a black
>> light that is used to
>> > make rubber stamps. I have made my own rubber
>> stamps
>> for use as
>> > texture on my ceramics for years. If you are
>> intersted I'll look up my
>> > supplier and post instructions for the process.
>> It's
>> fairly low tech.
>> >
>> > Candy
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: val
>> > >Reply-To: Clayart
>> > >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>> > >Subject: Re: making your own stamps
>> > >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:22:05 -0400
>> > >
>> > >Is there directions Kelly for making these on
>> your
>> own
>> > >as I sure would love to do this.
>> > >Thanks
>> > >Val
>> > >val@tlaz.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I have all my students -- adults and kids-- make
>> a
>> > >stamp, a roulette, and a signature chop on the
>> first
>> > >day of class. It takes about 15 minutes total,
>> unless
>> > >they want to get really involved with details. I
>> bisque
>> > >them before the next classand they use them all
>> > >semester.
>> > >
>> > >I have seen seven year olds make a really cool
>> stamp
>> by pressing a
>> > >wad of clay on the bottom of an ornate tennis
>> shoe.
>> I have been known
>> > >to make a few myself from some of their more
>> interesting shoes!
>> > >
>> > >If they make initials on their signature chops
>> they
>> > >hold them up to a mirror to check them, or we
>> gently
>> > >press them against a window to see the little
>> clay
>> > >kiss-mark they make.
>> > >
>> > >I have made some really wild stamps and roulettes
>> over
>> > >the years that I keep in a little harbor freight
>> tackle
>> > >box, and let students use them the first day.
>> Then
>> they
>> > >have to make their own. It's not because I am
>> > >possessive of the designs --( well, maybe a
>> little)
>> --
>> > >but mostly because when I look at stuff I made
>> using
>> > >someone else's stamps (like the ones Lana Wilson
>> let
>> us
>> > >mess with at her workshop at ACC) they don't feel
>> > >wholly mine. They feel collaborative. It maybe
>> > >shouldn't bug me but it does.
>> > >
>> > >I have bought the wooden stamps from the
>> friendly,
>> > >smiling wooden stamp guy, in LaCrosse and at
>> NCECA,
>> and
>> > >I really like them. Going through his box of
>> zillions, finding just
>> > >that right random pattern, and claiming it is
>> kind
>> of rewarding. I
>> > >have taken some children's wooden blocks to the
>> bench grinder and
>> > >made wooden stamps of my own. A lot of them were
>> pretty lame, but
>> > >the few that turned out good give me that double
>> thrill
>> > >when I press them into a pot -- first, it looks
>> cool...
>> > >second, I made it!
>> > >
>> > >As for a lot of commercial stamps, though... I
>> don't
>> > >like the idea that they sell hundreds of the same
>> ones.
>> > >I try hard enough not to have my pots look
>> clicheed
>> or derivative...
>> > >I don't want to make "another one of those". But
>> different strokes
>> > >for different folks.
>> > >
>> > >I have a little cigar box with a portable metal
>> > >toothpick, a pointy Dolin knife, a small
>> sculpting
>> > >tool, a ziploc bag with a slab of clay and some
>> > >tissues. I call it my "knitting". When the
>> organic
>> > >buying club ladies are sitting at the pick up
>> point
>> > >waiting for the semi truck, they all pull out
>> their
>> > >knitting and I pull out my box of clay. I make
>> stamps, roulettes,
>> > >beads, little people, mini teapots, whatever and
>> wrap them in kleenex
>> > >to dry.
>> > >
>> > >I make stamps on long drives (when Jeff's
>> driving,
>> of
>> > >course) and dry them on the dashboard. I set them
>> in
>> > >the sun at the picnic table on homeschool park
>> day.
>> A
>> > >diaper wipe or packaged hand wipe makes a quick
>> clean
>> > >up after, since the pieces are small and pretty
>> firm
>> to begin with.
>> > >
>> > >Diana Pancioli extrudes fat coils and carves
>> textures
>> > >on them when they are leather hard -- they are
>> big
>> > >enough to pattern whole slabs for building with.
>> > >
>> > >If you are happy using other people's stamps, go
>> for
>> > >it. In fact, I'd probably sell you some of mine
>> ;0)
>> Roulettes make
>> > >great patterns on olive boats and other
>> quick-and-easy kiln fillers.
>> > >
>> > >But it really is a kick to make your own!
>> > >
>> > >Yours
>> > >Kelly in Ohio
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> > >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>> > >Release Date: 11/04/2006
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:35:40 -0700
> From: Eric Suchman
> Subject: Re: making your own stamps - SUPER FAST-SUPER EASY
>
> I think something similar could be done with silicone sealer. Put
> Photoflo on your hands to keep it from sticking to yourself.
> The silicone would act more like a rubber stamp.
> eric
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2006, at 5:10 AM, steve blankenbeker wrote:
>
>> World's fastest stamp.
>>
>> Go to Lowes and get Quick Set 5 minute epoxy for about
>> $3.00. Take stiff wet clay, roll out a slab. Carve
>> your design in the clay. Mix up the epoxy, pour it
>> into the impression, working from one end to the other
>> to not trap air bubbles. Then take a piece of then
>> cardboard or something thin and straight edged and
>> level off the epoxy. After about ten minutes peel it
>> out. The longer it sits around the harder it gets.
>> You can experiment with the two part mix to get a more
>> pliable or more rigid imprint design. Works really
>> well.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> --- leta troppmann wrote:
>>
>>> Candy,
>>> I also would like the instructions!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Leta Medina
>>> yishkabob@sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>> val wrote:
>>> Thanks Canday,
>>> I would love the process instructions.
>>> You are a doll
>>> Val
>>> val@tlaz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would love to hear about the process!
>>>
>>> Susan near Seattle
>>>
>>> On 4/26/06, candy murguia
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IF you are interested in making your own rubber
>>> stamps, there is a
>>>> material you can buy, that sets up under a black
>>> light that is used to
>>>> make rubber stamps. I have made my own rubber
>>> stamps
>>> for use as
>>>> texture on my ceramics for years. If you are
>>> intersted I'll look up my
>>>> supplier and post instructions for the process.
>>> It's
>>> fairly low tech.
>>>>
>>>> Candy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: val
>>>>> Reply-To: Clayart
>>>>> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>>>>> Subject: Re: making your own stamps
>>>>> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:22:05 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there directions Kelly for making these on
>>> your
>>> own
>>>>> as I sure would love to do this.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Val
>>>>> val@tlaz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have all my students -- adults and kids-- make
>>> a
>>>>> stamp, a roulette, and a signature chop on the
>>> first
>>>>> day of class. It takes about 15 minutes total,
>>> unless
>>>>> they want to get really involved with details. I
>>> bisque
>>>>> them before the next classand they use them all
>>>>> semester.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen seven year olds make a really cool
>>> stamp
>>> by pressing a
>>>>> wad of clay on the bottom of an ornate tennis
>>> shoe.
>>> I have been known
>>>>> to make a few myself from some of their more
>>> interesting shoes!
>>>>>
>>>>> If they make initials on their signature chops
>>> they
>>>>> hold them up to a mirror to check them, or we
>>> gently
>>>>> press them against a window to see the little
>>> clay
>>>>> kiss-mark they make.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made some really wild stamps and roulettes
>>> over
>>>>> the years that I keep in a little harbor freight
>>> tackle
>>>>> box, and let students use them the first day.
>>> Then
>>> they
>>>>> have to make their own. It's not because I am
>>>>> possessive of the designs --( well, maybe a
>>> little)
>>> --
>>>>> but mostly because when I look at stuff I made
>>> using
>>>>> someone else's stamps (like the ones Lana Wilson
>>> let
>>> us
>>>>> mess with at her workshop at ACC) they don't feel
>>>>> wholly mine. They feel collaborative. It maybe
>>>>> shouldn't bug me but it does.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have bought the wooden stamps from the
>>> friendly,
>>>>> smiling wooden stamp guy, in LaCrosse and at
>>> NCECA,
>>> and
>>>>> I really like them. Going through his box of
>>> zillions, finding just
>>>>> that right random pattern, and claiming it is
>>> kind
>>> of rewarding. I
>>>>> have taken some children's wooden blocks to the
>>> bench grinder and
>>>>> made wooden stamps of my own. A lot of them were
>>> pretty lame, but
>>>>> the few that turned out good give me that double
>>> thrill
>>>>> when I press them into a pot -- first, it looks
>>> cool...
>>>>> second, I made it!
>>>>>
>>>>> As for a lot of commercial stamps, though... I
>>> don't
>>>>> like the idea that they sell hundreds of the same
>>> ones.
>>>>> I try hard enough not to have my pots look
>>> clicheed
>>> or derivative...
>>>>> I don't want to make "another one of those". But
>>> different strokes
>>>>> for different folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a little cigar box with a portable metal
>>>>> toothpick, a pointy Dolin knife, a small
>>> sculpting
>>>>> tool, a ziploc bag with a slab of clay and some
>>>>> tissues. I call it my "knitting". When the
>>> organic
>>>>> buying club ladies are sitting at the pick up
>>> point
>>>>> waiting for the semi truck, they all pull out
>>> their
>>>>> knitting and I pull out my box of clay. I make
>>> stamps, roulettes,
>>>>> beads, little people, mini teapots, whatever and
>>> wrap them in kleenex
>>>>> to dry.
>>>>>
>>>>> I make stamps on long drives (when Jeff's
>>> driving,
>>> of
>>>>> course) and dry them on the dashboard. I set them
>>> in
>>>>> the sun at the picnic table on homeschool park
>>> day.
>>> A
>>>>> diaper wipe or packaged hand wipe makes a quick
>>> clean
>>>>> up after, since the pieces are small and pretty
>>> firm
>>> to begin with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Diana Pancioli extrudes fat coils and carves
>>> textures
>>>>> on them when they are leather hard -- they are
>>> big
>>>>> enough to pattern whole slabs for building with.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are happy using other people's stamps, go
>>> for
>>>>> it. In fact, I'd probably sell you some of mine
>>> ;0)
>>> Roulettes make
>>>>> great patterns on olive boats and other
>>> quick-and-easy kiln fillers.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it really is a kick to make your own!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours
>>>>> Kelly in Ohio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>>> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 -
>>>>> Release Date: 11/04/2006
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> melpots@pclink.com.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:03:44 -0700
> From: Linda Ferzoco
> Subject: Betty Woodman retrospective at NY Met
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/28/arts/design/28wood.html
>
> I confess that her name is new to me but from what I
> can see in the article, it would be worth seeing her
> vessels. It's interesting that she is the first
> living clay craft/artist to have a solo retrospective
> at the Met.
>
> I guess I'll just be encouraged that it's happened at
> all.
>
> Cheers, Linda
>
> It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education, A. Einstein
> (1879 -1955)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:33:32 -0700
> From: Elizabeth Priddy
> Subject: Re: making your own stamps - SUPER FAST-SUPER EASY
>
> SOmetimes, when the lightbulb goes off, and I have
> been struggling with a problem, I feel so completely
> moronic for not getting there faster.
>
> I even considered paying $50 a piece for 20 of
> something I need to make intricate copies of.
>
> I am off to Lowe's.
>
> Thank you thank you thank you. That is a lot of money
> I don't have to spend.
>
> Even if it works 75% as well as the other stamp I
> would have made [I need large ones] I will still have
> a functional product.
>
> If you go to my site, there are mermaid plates. I am
> making 3-d tiles of them and I need the letters to be
> crisp. I had tried a dozen other ways and all of them
> were either labor intensive, ugly, or super expensive.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> E
>
>
> Elizabeth Priddy
>
> Beaufort, NC - USA
> http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:40:19 -0500
> From: mel jacobson
> Subject: test of the
>
> system.
> don't have to do anything folks.
> mel
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:50:02 -0700
> From: steve blankenbeker
> Subject: Re: making your own stamps - SUPER FAST-SUPER EASY
>
> Glad to offer help. If you want to make a big stamp,
> just make a bigger imprint. Usually when you get the
> stamp out, there will be a skin left where the imprint
> is not but a thin layer of epoxy remains from the
> leveling. You might not want to always trim this.
> For a big stamp, simply leave, even expand, the size
> of the thin skin, and then use the same epoxy to
> adhere the design to a wood block or something
> similar. When the stamp comes out, you can wash it in
> water, sometimes you may need to use a soft brush to
> clean the clay off. What is nice about this process
> is that it will exactly duplicate what you carve, not
> be simply a stamp from a drawing. If you go deeper in
> areas, it will make a deeper stamp. You can carve
> something now, and easily be stamping something from
> that design within 30 minutes.
>
> --- Elizabeth Priddy wrote:
>
>> SOmetimes, when the lightbulb goes off, and I have
>> been struggling with a problem, I feel so completely
>> moronic for not getting there faster.
>>
>> I even considered paying $50 a piece for 20 of
>> something I need to make intricate copies of.
>>
>> I am off to Lowe's.
>>
>> Thank you thank you thank you. That is a lot of
>> money
>> I don't have to spend.
>>
>> Even if it works 75% as well as the other stamp I
>> would have made [I need large ones] I will still
>> have
>> a functional product.
>>
>> If you go to my site, there are mermaid plates. I
>> am
>> making 3-d tiles of them and I need the letters to
>> be
>> crisp. I had tried a dozen other ways and all of
>> them
>> were either labor intensive, ugly, or super
>> expensive.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> E
>>
>>
>> Elizabeth Priddy
>>
>> Beaufort, NC - USA
>> http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:48 -0500
> From: Taylor Hendrix
> Subject: Re: making your own stamps - SUPER FAST-SUPER EASY
>
> Hey Elizabeth and others,
>
> Love the epoxy idea and will try that for sure. Lee Love uses hot
> glue to texture his paddles which are just high-velocity (spanky)
> stamps. I've been saving up wine corks for stamping and roulette
> purposes. I think the gel version of crazy glue (trade name) will
> work similar to Lee's hot glue only I'll have beter control of the
> line and smaller extrusion. I'll try and do some stamps this weekend
> between laying laminate flooring. Yee haw!
>
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
>
> On 4/28/06, Elizabeth Priddy wrote:
>> SOmetimes, when the lightbulb goes off, and I have
>> been struggling with a problem, I feel so completely
>> moronic for not getting there faster.
>>
> ...
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:02:01 -0700
> From: Helen Bates
> Subject: Surfing with Helen Bates - April 28, 2006 - Canada, USA, UK sites
>
> Surfing with Helen Bates - April 28, 2006 - Canada, USA, UK sites
>
> --------------- When Replying to my Posts ---------------
> Hit "Reply" then change nelbanell to yelbanell.
> --------------------- Thanks so much -------------------
>
> Made By Hand, Meant For Use 2005
> http://www.andrews.edu/ARCH/arcex/Pages/Shows/MBHMFU2005.html
> (Architecture Resource Center) (Oct. 2004 - Mar. 2006: collaborative
> exhibitions by Andrews University Architecture Division and curator
> Anthony Schaller with pots created by nationally and internationally
> known artists from around the United States) (Artists: Karl Borgeson,
> Robert Briscoe, Bernadette Curran, Julia Galloway, John Glick, David
> Hiltner, Sarah Jaeger, Dick Lehman, Sequoia Miller, Jeff Oestreich,
> Brad Schwieger, Ann Tubbs, Brooks Bouwkamp, Sam Chung, Rod Dugal, Tyra
> Forker, Kristen Kieffer, Liz Lurie, Warren MacKenzie, Robert Boomer
> Moore, Mishiyo Oishi, Kari Radasch, Ellen Shankin, Charity Davis
> Woodard)
>
> Craft Association of British Columbia (Vancouver, BC, Canada)
> http://www.cabc.net/
> (A great resource for B.C. artists) (Some links are perhaps still in
> the development stage, but I found a cross - referenced list of
> jewellers' suppliers in the Programs & Services Index.) (The site is
> very well-organized but as yet the search utility isn't as helpful as
> it could be. Perhaps that will be improved at some point.)
>
> Maude Kerns gallery (Eugene, OR, USA)
> (Non-profit community center for the visual arts)
> http://www.mkartcenter.org/
> (Location of the Club Mud Ceramics Cooperative) (See "Online Gallery"
> and the link "Four To Go" for some pottery)
>
> Cub Creek Foundation (Appomattox, VA, USA)
> http://www.cubcreek.org/
> (Artists with work online: John Jessiman, Steven Glass, Janet Lundy,
> Josh Floyd) (Residencies offered)
>
> International Ceramics Festival (Aberystwyth, Wales, UK)
> http://www.internationalceramicsfestival.org/pastevents/2003.htm
> (The International Ceramics Festival is held at biennially [every other
> year] at the Aberystwyth Arts Centre on the campus of the University of
> Wales on the Mid Wales coast.) (For interesting photos from the 2003
> event click on "archive" and select "2003" from the menu on the left.)
> (Some other years are reviewed as well, but not in such detail.)
>
> Helen
>
> Helen Bates (Belleville, Ontario, Canada)
> Clayarters' Websites: http://amsterlaw.com/clayart/
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:58:42 -0700
> From: Wendy Kelsey
> Subject: trouble with pendants
>
> I would like some suggestions about firing my glazed both
> sides pendants. I don't like stilting them as the stilt
> marks show and on something that small it is quite
> noticeable. Also, I have used bead racks but I am making
> large quantities and I would need many bead racks. On my
> kiln washed shelves they kiln wash is sticking to the
> pendant.
>
> Any ideas out there to make this easier? or a better
> system?
>
> I bought some commercial texture sheets but overall I like
> my homemade ones better. The commercial ones are too
> perfect! There are some nice ones out there though.
> Particularly of leafy designs. Thanks all!
>
> Wendy Kelsey
> Operations Manager
> Martini Ceramics
> Custom Tile and Ceramic Arts
> 1272 Paradise Cove
> Ferndale, WA 98248-9469
> Telephone: 360-392-8607
> Fax: 832-550-4856
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:27:41 -0700
> From: Bonita Cohn
> Subject: RIO
>
> Red Iron Oxide. = RIO
>
>
>
> Bonita
>
> Bonita Cohn
> http://www.bonitacohn.com
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:38:27 +0000
> From: David Beumee
> Subject: Re: china tiny saga
>
> I'd personally like to hear it on Clayart as you sort out your experience.
> What a great opportunity for you and for the people you met.
>
> David Beumee
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: mel jacobson
>> i was just thinking of the many things that one sees on
>> a trip to china and japan. if you like clay, things of clay....you see
>> it all.
>>
>> it reminds me of the gary larson cartoon...`teacher, i have to go home,
>> my brain is full.`
>>
>> i sure filled my brain looking and being in china. po was very good
>> and showing us the `best of the best`.
>>
>> people making things of clay.
>> the great pots in the great museums.
>> old universities, new universities.
>> art schools the size of the university of michigan. the entire
>> university.
>> we saw how old pots were made, we saw new pots being
>> made, we saw wonderful old sculpture of clay, we saw
>> wonderful new sculpture made of clay.
>>
>> we saw old buildings, new buildings...tall buildings 100+ stories.
>> we rode a train that went 436 KM and hour.
>> we rode on buses as old as my mother.
>> we walked on that old wall around china.
>>
>> we talked to many people involved in clay. nice people..eager
>> people...they wanted to meet us. talk about what is going
>> on in american art, european art....nice folks...just like potters.
>>
>> they want to share what they have...the old and the new.
>> so.
>> my brain is full.
>> i have to sort it all out.
>> mel
>>
>> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
>> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>> melpots@pclink.com.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:17:12 -0500
> From: Ron Roy
> Subject: Re: Shopping List? Glaze / Slip tests
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> We are going to have a civilized discussion about some of your concepts -
> all in the spirit of two people who respect each other of course - and
> each
> valuing the others friendship - OK?
>
> If you were to do a glaze with 25% GB and tried to sub in Gillespie borate
> for the GB you would get close - but if you subbed in 3134 you would have
> a
> different glaze - not enough boron in 3134 for starters - and no MgO in
> 3134 - so right away the CTE is going to be out of whack.
>
> Your mission - if you choose to accept - is to redo a glaze with at least
> 20% GB with 3134 subbed in - do you want me to send you one?
>
> Spodumene is not a concern to me - except if the glaze is so unstable and
> will release enough Lithium into food to be a concern. What I often warn
> potters about is the use of lithium carb in amounts over 2% because it can
> - with some clay bodies - produce spectacular fit problems - I can't say
> which bodies but it would be a great project for someone to try - and I
> would help if needed!!!!
>
> Flint is not available in NA that I know of by the way - we use silica
> here. Flint is slightly different in that it has some CaO - only available
> in Great Briton as far as I know..
>
> Other wise I agree and congratulate you on your post - your buddy - R
>
>
>>Other folks would have different lists. I might
>>add Gillespie Borate or Gerstley, but they react
>>rather similarly to frit 3134, and at least to
>>start with, 3134 may be more predictable. COE
>>concerns lead me to add Spodumene, though some
>>folks avoid using it to keep lithium levels low.
>>(High concentrations of lithium can make glazes
>>do odd things, but low levels are usually OK.)
>>
>>Flint alone is probably pretty much OK; and can
>>generally be subbed one for one for various
>>grades of silica. No need to start out with more
>>than one, take whatever your supplier has.
>>
>>Clays are different, and there may be many
>>different kaolins and ball clays at some ceramics
>>supply houses, but start with one each. EPK and
>>OM#4 are possibly the most commonly called for in
>>recipes, and it's a good idea to know their
>>characteristics.
>>
>>The colorant list is highly specific. If you
>>don't want blue, don't get the cobalt. Likewise
>>green and copper. You can spend thousands on
>>stains and so on, but if you know particularly
>>what you want, stains can be a quick way to get
>>spot on a shade you're after. If you want a
>>color opaque; you'll probably need either the tin
>>or zircopax (for which Ultrox, superpax, etc. are
>>essentially 1 for 1 substitutes*).
>>
>>I have used CKK6 a little, and it's generally a
>>good clay but it's neither fish nor fowl -- not a
>>white stoneware exactly, but also not something
>>with the visual variety of a darker clay either.
>>My notes show some crazing problems, but that may
>>not be significant for you (also I had lots of
>>crazing issues at the beginning, and had to
>>control COE on my glazes to eliminate them). For
>>an urn, though, crazing might be desirable -- a
>>good decorative surface effect for a vessel that
>>will, presumably, be carefully handled.
>>
>>As you learn to do what you want to do, you'll
>>find the resources here get better. The more
>>particular your question, the better the answers
>>will be. Lots of folks will help.
>>
>>Best wishes -- Steve S
>>
>>* The biggest difference between them is that
>>some have a bit of hafnium in them and the others
>>do not. Hafnium is a really neat metal, and
>>absorbs thermal neutrons really well. That's one
>>of the reasons why it's used for control rods in
>>nuclear reactors. That doesn't mean anything in
>>the pottery world, I was just thinking of it when
>>I was thinking of zircon sources.
>>
>>--- Susan P wrote:
>>
>>> Will do some low fire and need to come up with
>>> a great one for CKK6/Grog
>>> from Seattle Pottery Supply - have created a
>>> "reliquary sphere" for my
>>> mother's ashes and guess that I had better
>>> glaze it. If I knew how to attach
>>> picture through gmail I would....
>>>
>>> Thanks - Susan
>>
>>
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>
> Ron Roy
> RR#4
> 15084 Little Lake Road
> Brighton, Ontario
> Canada
> K0K 1H0
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:02:25 -0500
> From: mel jacobson
> Subject: test
>
> test of the system.
> mel
> working on the problem.
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:05:19 -0500
> From: mel jacobson
> Subject: clayart problem
>
> i may have found the problem.
> i just called my own isp and found out that
> they have started an aggressive anti/spam program
> and this all happened when i was in china.
>
> they found 1200 messages in their spam filter for
> melpots2.
>
> and, there i assume are all the clayart messages of the
> last few weeks.
>
> for some reason, some of you can send me clayart messages.
> most are filtered...he thought it might just be the subject.
> so.
> i think we have it fixed.
> mel
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:13:48 -0500
> From: mel jacobson
> Subject: ok, i think we got it...clayart working fine
>
> it was my isp.
> a great big filter.
> and it took out everything.
> it is now turned off for good.
> start sending some emails to test this.
> mel
> phew/it was a real pain.
> i hate this stuff when it happens.
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:09:47 -0700
> From: Guangzhen Zhou
> Subject: Decal Problems
>
> Decal Problems,
> A lady called yesterday, complaint about our product--the decal paper
> would
> not able to attach on the surface before firing. --sorry, I don't have
> your
> numbers!
> I have called someone in China and found out the solution: You may just
> need
> to add more alcohol into the water. It will help. It may happen that
> depend
> on the weather and temperature in your area.
> Please contact us at 800-689-2529. www.ChineseClayArt.com,
>
> Thanks!
>
> Guangzhen "Po" Zhou
> The Chinese Clay Art, USA
> PO Box 1733
> Cupertino, CA 95015
> Tel. 408-343-3919, 408-777-8319, Fax. 408-777-8321
> www.chineseclayart.com, chineseclayart@hotmail.com
> Art Tools are Part of Art Works.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:23:07 -0700
> From: pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET
> Subject: Re: clayart problem - Now,
> as requested - my test to see if I been spaminated
>
> Do it be workin'?
>
> Do it be not?
>
> Do it say "Yeah" to my little Post?
>
> Do it say, "nu-uh"...?
>
> ...we shall see...!
>
>
>
> Love,
>
> Phil
> el ve
>
> Where, to-day, it must be 90 sumpthin'...!
>
> Yeeeeeesh!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:47:46 -0500
> From: mel jacobson
> Subject: china saga/porcelain
>
> tony's note last week hit the nail right on the head.
> they throw a very high silica clay/ in fact nigel wood claims
> it is almost pure glass. they must throw thick and trim to perfection.
>
> the pots that we saw being turned that way were bone dry and trimmed
> with very long/tapered/super sharp hand made trimming tools.
> (pix of this process on the clayart page.)
>
> caroline cheng is using a combination of 50/50 eejing clay and jin/da/gin
> clay. she claims it throws well, and fires to a nice buff white. that
> leads me
> to believe that there is brown stain in the eejing clay that burns away
> at cone 10. if it was pure iron/well it would not fire white.
>
> the folks in modern jin/da/gin are making a great many pots with
> molds....including tile. so, a great deal of that clay is being poured
> into molds...many of famous forms. we saw a great deal of that.
> and, they are nice...but i am sure are being shipped to shops all
> over the world selling fine porcelain.
>
> the huge pots that we saw being made were indeed thrown using
> several men. they just stack the dry modules/add water to any
> height...that
> is, as tall as the kiln. the day we were there, they had a power outage
> and the guys were playing some card game...and one guy was really
> pissed as he lost a big hand. so, they would not talk to us. or show us
> anything...we just wandered...but any old time potter can figure the
> process. very straight forward. and you could tell from the trim piles
> that they really cut away a great deal of clay. dry.
>
> i think everyone is using the same clay in jin/da/gin...but then it is a
> big
> commercial pottery city and who knows what goes on behind the walls.
> they are smart folks and know what they are doing. thousands of people
> working the clay industry.
> mel
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:23:08 -0400
> From: "Sarah A. Wilson"
> Subject: Southern Ice Porcelain available in Sunnyvale - Bay Area CA
>
> Hello -
>
> I have just learned that Mother Earth Clay Art Center (in Sunnyvale) is
> now
> stocking Southern Ice regularly. They're right off Central Expressway -
> go
> here http://www.mamasclay.org/cgi-bin/DJshowpage.cgi?TEMPLATE=contact.html
> for hours, phone, and map.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sarah
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:53:33 -0500
> From: mel jacobson
> Subject: one more note on clayart
>
> in that spam folder at corecomm(my isp), there were 1,379 posts, all
> marked clayart@lsv.ceramics. org.
>
> about one fourth of them were posts to clayart. all the rest
> were spam.
>
> it gives you and idea what i have to go through in six days.
> not whining.
> just a fact.
> mel
>
> i am trying to have the new tech/administrator at acers
> to change the address to clayart.
> just make it: clayart1@.
>
> it will not cure the problem, but it will sure slow them down
> for a year.
> i would also like to clear out all the dead wood in the
> address archives.
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:51:08 -0400
> From: "Edouard Bastarache Inc."
> Subject: Re: clayart problem
>
> Same thing happened here with our ISP,
> thrice in one year.
> A piss off.
>
>
>
>
> Edouard Bastarache
>
> Membre de La French Connection
> Member of The French Connection
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
> www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/Welcome.html
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/smart2000/index.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/
> http://oldringer.blogspot.com/
> http://albertpeintures.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mel jacobson"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:05 PM
> Subject: clayart problem
>
>
>>i may have found the problem.
>> i just called my own isp and found out that
>> they have started an aggressive anti/spam
>> program
>> and this all happened when i was in china.
>>
>> they found 1200 messages in their spam filter
>> for
>> melpots2.
>>
>> and, there i assume are all the clayart messages
>> of the
>> last few weeks.
>>
>> for some reason, some of you can send me clayart
>> messages.
>> most are filtered...he thought it might just be
>> the subject.
>> so.
>> i think we have it fixed.
>> mel
>>
>> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
>> website: http://my.pclink.com/~melpots3
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________________
>> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>> You may look at the archives for the list or
>> change your subscription
>> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
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>> reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:55:27 -0800
> From: Kris Bliss
> Subject: ip425
>
> hi, well that's a strange subject line...
>
> but a real question...
>
> i got a jar from an old potter selling out...
> most of the stuff has been id'ed, but
>
> this one i suspect is a stain, but am not
> sure.. before i start adding it to stuff to
> test..
>
> can you good folks help me out??
> what is this??
>
> thanks from kris in anchorage, where it is always
> winter but never christmas... snowed two days ago.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:23:15 -0500
> From: Gay Judson
> Subject: Re: clayart problem
>
> Of those 1200 messages in your box many must be inquiring about the
> status of Clayart. I wonder if those of us who did NOT write you
> inquiring about the Clayart problem get gold stars for our incredible
> patience?
>
> And another thing I've been thinking about is the magic of Clayart.
> It takes the "newbie" questions to generate the "guru" answers to make
> Clayart what it is--an incredible resource to us all.
>
> It all makes me realize how much I appreciate and depend on Mel and
> the gurus and the newbies with questions to brighten my day and get it
> off to a good start. Thanks to all.
>
> Gay Judson in San Antonio, TX
>
>> Mel wrote:
>>=20
>> i may have found the problem.
>
>> they found 1200 messages in their spam filter for
>> melpots2.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:00:40 -0700
> From: Guangzhen Zhou
> Subject: Job open
>
> Job Open: English Teacher, Jingdezhen Ceramic Institute, China
> Job Description: Starts from Sept. 06 to Jan. 07, up to two years (6months
> minimum). 16 to 22 teaching hours per week (oral English for university
> students, and young faculty members). One way international air fare after
> one year, Monthly pay RMB2,200 to 5,000 (RMB8=USD1), plus free
> accommodation
> and medical insurance. Requirements: Received a Bachelor's or higher
> Degree,
> with teaching experience, native English speaking only. Application: cover
> letter, resume, copies of your academic degree certificate and diploma.
> One
> recommendation letter needed.
> Contact: Liu Huangsha, or Liu Shurong
> International Affairs Office, Jingdezhen Ceramic Institute
> Jingdezhen City, Jiangxi Province, P. R. China, Post code 333001
> Phone: (+86) 798 8499600, Fax: (+86) 798 8499012, (+86) 798 8491837
> E-mail: oyxscn@vip.sina.com, oyxscn@hotmail.com,
>
>
>
>
> Guangzhen "Po" Zhou
> The Chinese Clay Art, USA
> PO Box 1733
> Cupertino, CA 95015
> Tel. 408-343-3919, 408-777-8319, Fax. 408-777-8321
> www.chineseclayart.com, chineseclayart@hotmail.com
> Art Tools are Part of Art Works.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:30:19 -0400
> From: "L. P. Skeen"
> Subject: Re: one more note on clayart
>
> Hey mel, with regard to the dead wood, we had discussed at one point or =
> another completely ditching the whole thing and starting over, such that =
> those who are real, live people could just resubscribe and the deadwood =
> would be gone. Has that idea been chucked?
>
> L
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: mel jacobson=20
>
>
> i would also like to clear out all the dead wood in the
> address archives.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:12:13 -0500
> From: "Tom at Hutchtel.net"
> Subject: Re: Chinese Clay
>
> Mel...
>
> Just as you talk about the traditions of Chinese clay and teapot making, I
> think you also talk to the point off how contemporary potters in the West
> keep trying to make the next "See Me" pot. Few seem to take the time to
> throw what appears to be the same form over and over....and over and over.
> Some time ago, Louis Katz put a one page article in CM saying that you had
> to throw a form 3,000 to 5,000 times before you really knew it. After
> only
> 14 years of this game, maybe 50 or 60 thousand pieces, I know he's right.
>
> And then, once you get the form right comes decoration. The dozens of
> different techniques and hundreds of tools.
>
> You are right...now add in 10 or 15 glazes and 3 or 4 clays. No way.
>
> Thank you many times over for your writings on your trip.
>
> Hi to Charlene.
>
> Tom Wirt
> Hutchinson, MN
> twirt@hutchtel.net
> www.claycoyote.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:14:21 -0500
> From: "Tom at Hutchtel.net"
> Subject: Re: one more note on clayart
>
>> just make it: clayart1@.
>>
>> it will not cure the problem, but it will sure slow them down
>> for a year.
>> i would also like to clear out all the dead wood in the
>> address archives.
>>
>
> Mel,
>
> I've been a part of several other lists over the years. It is not unusual
> to change the address and require re-registration. Do it.
>
> Tom Wirt
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:59:12 -0400
> From: Marta Matray
> Subject: Re: clayart problem - Now,
> as requested - my test to see if I been spaminated
>
> oh my god, phil,
> are you ok?
> yes, your post came thru, but whats wrong?
> you never ever wrote such a short post
> to clayart before :)
> oh, that 90 degrees farenheit must explain it!
> love,marta
>
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:23:07 -0700, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>
>>Do it be workin'?
>>
>>Do it be not?
>>
>>Do it say "Yeah" to my little Post?
>>
>>Do it say, "nu-uh"...?
>>
>>...we shall see...!
>>
>>
>>
>>Love,
>>
>>Phil
>>el ve
>>
>>Where, to-day, it must be 90 sumpthin'...!
>>
>>Yeeeeeesh!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:17:42 -0400
> From: Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery
> Subject: studio sale
>
> On May 6 and 7, we are having a studio sale. Sculpture, porcelain
> pottery and tile sculptures by five ceramic artists--interesting and
> beautiful work. If you're in Brooklyn next weekend, come on by! 548
> Court Street/storefront, Brooklyn, NY 718-858-6920 for info
>
> Lynn
>
>
> Lynn Goodman
> Fine Porcelain Pottery
> 548 Court St.
> Brooklyn, NY 11231
> 718-858-6920
> Cell 347-526-9805
> www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:36:06 -0700
> From: karen gringhuis
> Subject: Layering Glazes
>
> Randy -
>
> These are not specific overlaps but general
> descriptions of what has worked for me. I've not
> tested these concepts in multiple bases but I think
> they should work.
>
> Color a transparent glossy base with Mason Vicky Green
> and Cerdec (or perhaps a Mason) yellow to get
> chartreuse. Layer it over a satin matt base with MgO
> colored w/ cobalt to give lavender blue. Try same
> idea with glossy base colored with Cerdec red. The
> overlap will move so keep it up from the very bottom
> of a pot. The overlap area gave me cobalt blue with a
> runny bottom edge of the overlapping color.
>
> Take a satin matt base and color it with Cerdec
> yellow; make separate batch of same base colored with
> orange. Put yellow on top of orange to get a nice
> mango with some breakup.
>
> Karen Gringhuis
> KG Pottery
> Box 607 Alfred NY 14802
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:43:47 -0700
> From: Sam or Mary Yancy
> Subject: Extruder message/reply
>
> Mel - earlier this week there was a clayart person who wanted to know of
> an experience with a northstar stainless steel extruder. I have one and
> don't like it for several reasons. I posted a response to clayart on the
> subject about two days ago - at that time i got a return message that you
> (clayart) had received it. Since my comments are not on clayart now -
> perhaps it will be once you sort out all the missing messages??? or should
> I wait till the subject comes up again and respond then??? Sam in Daly
> City
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:10:11 -0400
> From: KKline
> Subject: Extruders and air filtration questions
>
> I'm new to Clayart and obviously there've been problems with postings, =
> so I'm going to ask these questions a second time:
>
> Recommendations for an extruder for porcelain? I'm trying to decide =
> between North Star with stainless steel barrel and the Scott Creek with =
> aluminum barrel. =20
>
> Ideas about an effective/economical HEPA air filtration system for a 765 =
> sf studio? =20
>
> Thanks!
> KBKline
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:29:05 -0700
> From: steve graber
> Subject: Re: one more note on clayart
>
> why does that matter? if a subscriber is "dead", they don't reply any.
> they don't add extra stuff. unless the list can't send 3000 e-mails?
> that's small on the scale of servers today.
>
>
>
> "L. P. Skeen" wrote:
> Hey mel, with regard to the dead wood, we had discussed at one point or
> another completely ditching the whole thing and starting over, such that
> those who are real, live people could just resubscribe and the deadwood
> would be gone. Has that idea been chucked?
>
> L
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mel jacobson
>
>
> i would also like to clear out all the dead wood in the
> address archives.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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> melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:46:59 -0600
> From: BJ Clark | Stinking Desert Ceramics
> Subject: Re: school story/the phone
>
> E: Have you ever seen "The Chris Rock Show" on HBO? He had a skit called
> "How not to get your ass kicked by the po-lice".
> Quote: "If you jump a turn stall in the subway with a joint in your mouth
> and a gun in your hand, You might just need to get your ass kicked by the
> po-lice."
>
> I tend to agree.
>
> BJ Clark
> Colorado
>
>
> On 4/28/06, Elizabeth Priddy wrote:
>>
>> That is like the "at-risk" program I ran for a few
>> years before getting pregnant. The real reason I
>> handed the program off to my assistant was that I was
>> not willing to work in that environment while pregnant
>> or while the kid was too young to make it ok without
>> mom.
>>
>> One of the kids I taught was about 6'4 already at 15
>> and violent. He grabbed a kid by the neck and was
>> choking him in the bathroom when he was caught and
>> permanently expelled. He did it, according to the
>> other kids, because the kid was disrespecting him and
>> wouldn't shut up. I was familiar with both and I
>> guarantee that the kid was in fact disrespecting him
>> and wouldn;'t shut up, as I had also had the urge to
>> snatch him up by the neck, which is why I relate to
>> the kids in the program. Difference is I am not a
>> sociopath and so I have the self control to remove
>> myself or the kid from the room if it gets like that
>> and my large and violent charge did not. I hope he's
>> ok whreever he is. The mouthy one is doomed to a few
>> beat-downs until he learns to shut up at appropriate
>> times. Sometimes real life is hard, nasty, brutish,
>> and short. And still it goes on.
>>
>> And yet, in a few years, I will be all in with those
>> kids again, cause they need people who understand them
>> to give them a chance. It will definitely give you
>> the chills in your gut once in a while and I keep my
>> back to the wall in class with them...but I knew a lot
>> of violence when I came up too and I turned out
>> alright and productive in society and all. So they
>> are worth it.
>>
>> But I would never look askance at anyone who didn't
>> have the little bit of crazy it takes to work with
>> them. It's called self-preservation and I could do
>> with a little more of that my own fine self.
>>
>> E
>>
>> mourning the sudden loss of a family friend who had
>> the same endocrine problem i have and so i am looking
>> through a glass darkly today.
>>
>>
>> Elizabeth Priddy
>>
>> Beaufort, NC - USA
>> http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> BJ Clark
> Stinking Desert Ceramics
> bjclark@stinkingdesert.com
> www.stinkingdesert.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:53:26 -0600
> From: BJ Clark | Stinking Desert Ceramics
> Subject: Re: making your own stamps - SUPER FAST-SUPER EASY
>
> I've been experimenting with embossed designs (sprigging I guess), not
> just
> stamps.
> Made my design in my computer (but you could hand draw it on paper), made
> a
> mirror of it, printed it out, took it to a rubber stamp guy who, for $8
> mad=
> e
> me a stamp (I had to explain I wanted my stamp to be a positive not a
> negative, that's why it was a mirror on paper).
> Peeled the rubber part of the stamp part and made a plaster mold (then
> clay
> positives that I used to make a mold with 8 in a single mold).
> Apply with some slip and you don't have an imprint but a positive. Really
> slick. Don't forget to release the rubber stamp with some vasiline.
>
> Works great with logos, made some mugs I'm giving out to people for their
> offices.
>
> BJ Clark
> Colorado
>
>
>
>
> On 4/28/06, steve blankenbeker wrote:
>>
>> Glad to offer help. If you want to make a big stamp,
>> just make a bigger imprint. Usually when you get the
>> stamp out, there will be a skin left where the imprint
>> is not but a thin layer of epoxy remains from the
>> leveling. You might not want to always trim this.
>> For a big stamp, simply leave, even expand, the size
>> of the thin skin, and then use the same epoxy to
>> adhere the design to a wood block or something
>> similar. When the stamp comes out, you can wash it in
>> water, sometimes you may need to use a soft brush to
>> clean the clay off. What is nice about this process
>> is that it will exactly duplicate what you carve, not
>> be simply a stamp from a drawing. If you go deeper in
>> areas, it will make a deeper stamp. You can carve
>> something now, and easily be stamping something from
>> that design within 30 minutes.
>>
>> --- Elizabeth Priddy wrote:
>>
>> > SOmetimes, when the lightbulb goes off, and I have
>> > been struggling with a problem, I feel so completely
>> > moronic for not getting there faster.
>> >
>> > I even considered paying $50 a piece for 20 of
>> > something I need to make intricate copies of.
>> >
>> > I am off to Lowe's.
>> >
>> > Thank you thank you thank you. That is a lot of
>> > money
>> > I don't have to spend.
>> >
>> > Even if it works 75% as well as the other stamp I
>> > would have made [I need large ones] I will still
>> > have
>> > a functional product.
>> >
>> > If you go to my site, there are mermaid plates. I
>> > am
>> > making 3-d tiles of them and I need the letters to
>> > be
>> > crisp. I had tried a dozen other ways and all of
>> > them
>> > were either labor intensive, ugly, or super
>> > expensive.
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >
>> > E
>> >
>> >
>> > Elizabeth Priddy
>> >
>> > Beaufort, NC - USA
>> > http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>> >
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>>
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>> >
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> BJ Clark
> Stinking Desert Ceramics
> bjclark@stinkingdesert.com
> www.stinkingdesert.com
>
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>
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