Mary/Adams on wed 11 jan 06
I either waste a lot on throwing (I know this is true with throwing
platters) or -- well I don't know OR WHAT; but, I seem to generate a lot of
recycle clay. And, it take a great deal of energy and time to do all the
work in recycling it.
Do you all recycle clay? Any pointers on making this process easier?
Do you keep all the clays you use separate or throw all into a bucket marked
"mixed" (this may be sacriligeous?? ) but, up to this time, I've been
testing a lot of different clays -- I WILL NOT BE DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE.
Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Mary
steve graber on wed 11 jan 06
good points -
the real thing to do is stay on top of the scrap clay. don't wait till you have a ton of scrap & then recylcing is a real project!
see ya
steve
lela martens wrote:
Hi Mary,,
I can`t imagine not re-cycling clay.
I use 3 different clays. A red, an ivory..Plainsman, also combines these 2
as another clay, so mixing them together works well for me.
But I generally keep the scraps separate. I do also use B mix, and
sometimes all 3 go in the same slop bucket. This has always worked
for me....
The recycling isn`t that much trouble if you keep the amounts small,
but I would like a pug mill .
If I have a throwing mistake, I smear it on my canvas covered plaster
block and wedge it up, throw it last thing ..Nice and soft.
I keep the amounts minimal.
My trimmings go in their respective buckets of water, stirred occationally
to mix, then on the block later. A heat lamp speeds this up.
I keep my number of different clays to a minimum, and am working on
doing that with glazes too.
Best wishes from Lela
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Brian O'Neill on wed 11 jan 06
Mary,
There's a huge amount of info on pug mills in the archives - the more
expedient device for recycling. But your questions seem more about
sorting out clay bodies and logistics. Hard to give specifics without
knowing what kind of work you do.
If you've arrived at one or two bodies that work for you, this
obviously makes things easier. Red, buff, or white? Same firing range?
If you're looking for consistency in your fired work, keeping things
separated is essential. However, if you're interests lie in raku or
more organic textured effects, where body color is not as critical,
mixing varied clays together can be pretty exciting, albeit a less
consistent outcome.
I recycle all my clay and sort it this way. I use two prepared wet
clays, (one red, one white) for my stoneware work that requires
consistency. All scraps go into one container. I use my recycled clay
with the addition of grog for raku, single fired, and pit fired work.
If I didn't do the latter, I'd probably keep the clays completely
separate.
Good luck,
Brian
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On Jan 11, 2006, at 7:37 AM, Mary/Adams wrote:
> I either waste a lot on throwing (I know this is true with throwing
> platters) or -- well I don't know OR WHAT; but, I seem to generate a
> lot of
> recycle clay. And, it take a great deal of energy and time to do all
> the
> work in recycling it.
>
> Do you all recycle clay? Any pointers on making this process easier?
>
> Do you keep all the clays you use separate or throw all into a bucket
> marked
> "mixed" (this may be sacriligeous?? ) but, up to this time, I've been
> testing a lot of different clays -- I WILL NOT BE DOING THAT IN THE
> FUTURE.
>
> Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Mary
>
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Rick Bonomo on wed 11 jan 06
Mary/Adams wrote:
>Recycle nightmare -- do you do it?
>I either waste a lot on throwing (I know this is true with throwing
>platters)...
Mary,
This page might help: http://www.ricks-bricks.com/Minerecycle.htm
After posting it on Clayart a while back - I took the advice of the gurus
and stopped screening recycled clay. Too much work, unless you are in a
group studio and expect to find garbage in there. You do have to screen if
you are mining your own clay.
Otherwise just dry out the trimmin's completely, so that the clay
re-hydrates uniformly.
Or just dump your wet slop into the bat then wedge it to get the clay
uniform
Rick Bonomo
http://www.ricks-bricks.com
lela martens on wed 11 jan 06
Hi Mary,,
I can`t imagine not re-cycling clay.
I use 3 different clays. A red, an ivory..Plainsman, also combines these 2
as another clay, so mixing them together works well for me.
But I generally keep the scraps separate. I do also use B mix, and
sometimes all 3 go in the same slop bucket. This has always worked
for me....
The recycling isn`t that much trouble if you keep the amounts small,
but I would like a pug mill .
If I have a throwing mistake, I smear it on my canvas covered plaster
block and wedge it up, throw it last thing ..Nice and soft.
I keep the amounts minimal.
My trimmings go in their respective buckets of water, stirred occationally
to mix, then on the block later. A heat lamp speeds this up.
I keep my number of different clays to a minimum, and am working on
doing that with glazes too.
Best wishes from Lela
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marianne kuiper milks on wed 11 jan 06
Yes, Mary, I recycle all my nightmares! Ask my family and neighbors. Lost many friends that way!
Seriously: I used (also trying many diff. kinds of clay) to dry the clay, hammer it to bits, add water...then there it was: the largest mosquito farm in the world. Strange-looking driveway we have these days!
Lily K, the clay wise-ard (sorta wizzard), told me that she dumps each piece left straight into a bucket of water. Poor water off the top, over and over, until it has a consistency of sorts. Spread it over a drying slad & make balls when it is ready. I make balls, anyway. I also put a dent in those with my thumb, put water in it and place gently in a plastic bucket, covering it with plastic. Works very well. Sometimes I just do that for the afternoon, put on some nice music and make it a "special time". Amazing how that feels when you say that.
I have been told that mixed clays are fine for hand-building (or freshman students). I use one kind for throwing and hand building that has some grog, and a pocelain for whatever I want porcelain for. Am looking for a newer, more white one. I do not mix them. Two buckets works fine.
And I would seriously stop breaking plates. Too much work ;-)
Marianne
Mary/Adams wrote: I either waste a lot on throwing (I know this is true with throwing
platters) or -- well I don't know OR WHAT; but, I seem to generate a lot of
recycle clay. And, it take a great deal of energy and time to do all the
work in recycling it.
Do you all recycle clay? Any pointers on making this process easier?
Do you keep all the clays you use separate or throw all into a bucket marked
"mixed" (this may be sacriligeous?? ) but, up to this time, I've been
testing a lot of different clays -- I WILL NOT BE DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE.
Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Mary
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Mildred Herot on wed 11 jan 06
Hi there: I recycle all my trimmings by putting them in a large plastic
container and pour my throwing water in there as well as additional water.
I keep a large paint mixer (courtesy of Home Depot) in the container and let
the clay sit and soak for a few days and then mix it up and use a large
plastic scoop - put the clay on a plaster bat and let it dry to the
consistency I want. Not that much trouble and it works for me....Mildred
Herot
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From: "Mary/Adams"
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Subject: Recycle nightmare -- do you do it?
>I either waste a lot on throwing (I know this is true with throwing
> platters) or -- well I don't know OR WHAT; but, I seem to generate a lot
> of
> recycle clay. And, it take a great deal of energy and time to do all the
> work in recycling it.
>
> Do you all recycle clay? Any pointers on making this process easier?
>
> Do you keep all the clays you use separate or throw all into a bucket
> marked
> "mixed" (this may be sacriligeous?? ) but, up to this time, I've been
> testing a lot of different clays -- I WILL NOT BE DOING THAT IN THE
> FUTURE.
>
> Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Mary
>
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