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Daniel Semler on mon 7 nov 05


Thanx for this Jeanne. It is important. The tax thing is interesting. Having
said that, I have to start somewhere and perhaps the nature of the
apprenticeship is not so different but then I won't know until I read
accounts.
I've got to get out the 19th century and the 15th/16th is not a bad
jump. Now if
I can just get to the 11th :)

Thanx
D

Marcia Selsor on mon 7 nov 05


I got the facsimile of Picolpasso's Three Books of the Potters' Craft
about 15 years ago from the Scholar's Bookshelf.
Steve Branfman also had them for a little while. Maybe he can still
find them. Great books!
Marcia Selsor in Montana

Daniel Semler on mon 7 nov 05


Hi Marcia,

Does this facsimile also have text translation in English ? I have seen
mention of the facsimile edition and did not know if it just that or contained
an English text also. Would you be able to tell me the publisher and date ?

Thanx
D

skiasonaranthropos@FSMAIL.NET on mon 7 nov 05


Hi Daniel,
The reference I have notes that its at the Victoria and Albert Museum,
whose website is www.vam.ac.uk, so they may be worth contacting

And according to the same the name / spelling is The Potters art by C.
Piccolpasso

Regards,
Antony

Taylor from Rockport on mon 7 nov 05


Hey Dan'l:

The three books of the potter's art =
I tre libri dell'arte del vasaio : a facsimile of the manuscript in the
Victoria and Albert Museum, London /
Cipriano Piccolpasso; R W Lightbown; Alan Caiger-Smith

1980
English Book 2 v. : ill. (some col.), facsims., map ; 33 cm.
London : Scolar Press, ; ISBN: 0859674525 (set)

There is a 30s edition by the museum as well.


Good hunting,

Taylor, in Rockport TX
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:56:16 -0500, skiasonaranthropos@FSMAIL.NET wrote:

>Hi Daniel,
>The reference I have notes that its at the Victoria and Albert Museum,
>whose website is www.vam.ac.uk, so they may be worth contacting
>
>And according to the same the name / spelling is The Potters art by C.
>Piccolpasso

Wood Jeanne on mon 7 nov 05


I hesitate to write this because of sounding pedantic.
But Piccolopasso writes about Renaissance pottery, not
Medieval pottery. For those of us who are interested
in the details to the point of being unreasonable
fanatics, there were a lot of firing and glazing
differences between these eras in Europe. And the
guild systems had varying power over time. (China, of
course, was about 1000 years ahead of the West.)

I also hesitate to write this because I am so unsure,
but someone (Cardew? Davis?) wrote an article some
years ago on research someone had done on taxes paid
in the Medieval Europe from various crafts and the
potters paid more than quite a few others, indicating
they sold more than many other crafts.
As I said I can't remember well enough to present
this. Too many old CMs to look through.
-Jeanne W.


--- skiasonaranthropos@FSMAIL.NET wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> The reference I have notes that its at the Victoria
> and Albert Museum,
> whose website is www.vam.ac.uk, so they may be worth
> contacting
>
> And according to the same the name / spelling is The
> Potters art by C.
> Piccolpasso
>
> Regards,
> Antony
>



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Daniel Semler on tue 8 nov 05


Thanx Taylor.
Looks like your having too much fun burning stuff. Enjoy.

D

> Hey Dan'l:
>
> The three books of the potter's art =
> I tre libri dell'arte del vasaio : a facsimile of the manuscript in the
> Victoria and Albert Museum, London /
> Cipriano Piccolpasso; R W Lightbown; Alan Caiger-Smith
>
> 1980
> English Book 2 v. : ill. (some col.), facsims., map ; 33 cm.
> London : Scolar Press, ; ISBN: 0859674525 (set)
>
> There is a 30s edition by the museum as well.
>
>
> Good hunting,
>
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
> http://www.wirerabbit.blogspot.com
> http://www.wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
>
> http://www.clayartmugshots.blogspot.com
>
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:56:16 -0500, skiasonaranthropos@FSMAIL.NET wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>> The reference I have notes that its at the Victoria and Albert Museum,
>> whose website is www.vam.ac.uk, so they may be worth contacting
>>
>> And according to the same the name / spelling is The Potters art by C.
>> Piccolpasso
>
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