Arnold Howard on mon 22 aug 05
From: "Alistair Gillies"
> I have come across some boxes of cones that are about 25 years old. Am I
> imagining it or did I hear somewhere that modern cones are designed for
> slightly different temps?
> I have found full boxes of Orton 10, 9, 04, 08 and 011.
On 10-28-96, Orton revised some of their cone temperatures. Most of the
changes were minor. Example: 05 became 3 deg. F. cooler.
Cone 10 : No change made
Cone 9: No change made
Cone 04 before 1996: 1926
Cone 04 after 1996: 1945
Cone 08 before 1996: 1737
Cone 08 after 1996: 1728
Cone 011: No Change made
Cones 6 & 7 had the biggest changes in temperature:
Cone 6 before 10-28-96: 2199
Cone 6 after 10-28-96: 2232
Cone 7 before 10-28-96: 2228
Cone 7 after 10-28-96: 2262
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
Carole Fox on tue 23 aug 05
Arnold - I am curious to know why Orton made the cone temperature changes
that you described. Do you have any more info?
Thanks,
Carole Fox
Dayton, OH
Alistair Gillies on tue 23 aug 05
Thanks for this full answer Arnold,
A
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From: "Arnold Howard"
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Cones: 10-28-96 temperature changes
> From: "Alistair Gillies"
>> I have come across some boxes of cones that are about 25 years old. Am I
>> imagining it or did I hear somewhere that modern cones are designed for
>> slightly different temps?
>> I have found full boxes of Orton 10, 9, 04, 08 and 011.
>
> On 10-28-96, Orton revised some of their cone temperatures. Most of the
> changes were minor. Example: 05 became 3 deg. F. cooler.
>
> Cone 10 : No change made
>
> Cone 9: No change made
>
> Cone 04 before 1996: 1926
> Cone 04 after 1996: 1945
>
> Cone 08 before 1996: 1737
> Cone 08 after 1996: 1728
>
> Cone 011: No Change made
>
> Cones 6 & 7 had the biggest changes in temperature:
>
> Cone 6 before 10-28-96: 2199
> Cone 6 after 10-28-96: 2232
>
> Cone 7 before 10-28-96: 2228
> Cone 7 after 10-28-96: 2262
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Arnold Howard
> Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
> ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
>
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Arnold Howard on tue 23 aug 05
From: "Carole Fox"
> Arnold - I am curious to know why Orton made the cone temperature changes
> that you described. Do you have any more info?
In 1996 Orton reformulated some of their cones because they could no longer
obtain the ingredients they had been using. Several mines closed that year.
According to Orton, the newest cone formulas are more consistent the
pre-1996 formulas.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
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