Dan Saultman on thu 23 jun 05
I am preparing digital images to be converted into 35mm slides.
I have room on my slides to also place my name and information about
the piece on the slide, like size, firing techniques & temp. etc. Two
or three lines of text is what I would require. Is this ok, or do
jurrors prefer not to have any identification on the transparency
portion of slides so that the work is judged more blindly.
Thanks
Dan Saultman
Dan Saultman
Detroit
http://www.saultman.com
Vince Pitelka on fri 24 jun 05
>I am preparing digital images to be converted into 35mm slides.
> I have room on my slides to also place my name and information about
> the piece on the slide, like size, firing techniques & temp. etc. Two
> or three lines of text is what I would require. Is this ok, or do
> jurrors prefer not to have any identification on the transparency
> portion of slides so that the work is judged more blindly.
Dan -
Whether or not the jurors judge the work blindly is irrelevant in this case.
For slides being submitted to a jury, you want to avoid anything that would
distract attention from the work, and having that kind of information
printed within the slide image would be seen as very tacky. I cannot
imagine any jurying situation where it would be advantageous to have writing
or print visible in the slide image unless the print is on the ceramic piece
itself.
If they ask for that kind of information on a slide sheet, or other
documentation, that is fine. Otherwise, don't worry about it. Just let the
work be judged on its visual merits. Keep the background simple, and don't
include anything in the image that might distract from the work.
Good luck -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Snail Scott on sat 25 jun 05
At 08:01 PM 6/23/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>I am preparing digital images to be converted into 35mm slides.
>I have room on my slides to also place my name and information about
>the piece on the slide, like size, firing techniques & temp. etc. Two
>or three lines of text is what I would require. Is this ok, or do
>jurrors prefer not to have any identification on the transparency
>portion of slides so that the work is judged more blindly.
Don't put info on the image if the slides are intended
for jurying. If they are intended for lecture
presentations, it would be a nice touch, but not for
jurying.
-Snail
Edy Nathan on mon 27 jun 05
HI All,
Just recently did a show and sat next to a woman who
is a quilter/ SHe showed me slides with the main
picture of her work in the middle of the slide and
then a small close-up of her work underneath the
centered photo. What do you think of this idea?
She said she got into the Smithsonian show with
slides of this nature.
Would be very interested in any feedback.
Thanks fropm smoldering NYC!
Edy Visioninclay.com
--- Vince Pitelka wrote:
> >I am preparing digital images to be converted into
> 35mm slides.
> > I have room on my slides to also place my name
> and information about
> > the piece on the slide, like size, firing
> techniques & temp. etc. Two
> > or three lines of text is what I would require.
> Is this ok, or do
> > jurrors prefer not to have any identification on
> the transparency
> > portion of slides so that the work is judged more
> blindly.
>
> Dan -
> Whether or not the jurors judge the work blindly is
> irrelevant in this case.
> For slides being submitted to a jury, you want to
> avoid anything that would
> distract attention from the work, and having that
> kind of information
> printed within the slide image would be seen as very
> tacky. I cannot
> imagine any jurying situation where it would be
> advantageous to have writing
> or print visible in the slide image unless the print
> is on the ceramic piece
> itself.
>
> If they ask for that kind of information on a slide
> sheet, or other
> documentation, that is fine. Otherwise, don't worry
> about it. Just let the
> work be judged on its visual merits. Keep the
> background simple, and don't
> include anything in the image that might distract
> from the work.
> Good luck -
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee
> Technological University
> Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
> vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
> http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
>
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Vince Pitelka on mon 27 jun 05
> Just recently did a show and sat next to a woman who
> is a quilter/ SHe showed me slides with the main
> picture of her work in the middle of the slide and
> then a small close-up of her work underneath the
> centered photo. What do you think of this idea?
Edy -
I have never heard of anyone doing that, and it goes against all the advice
I have ever heard about the jurying process. Are you sure she did not mean
two separate slide images - one showing the whole piece and another with a
detail? That's certainly not uncommon, but I cannot imagine putting both
images in one slide. I think they would both suffer.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Merrill Kramer on tue 28 jun 05
Subject: Re: Digital Slide Preparation
Edy:
I certainly have far less experience than Vince, but last Thursday I
attended a workshop at our local museum (Hollywood Art & Culture Center,
FL). It wqas for artists, about marketing work, portfolios, presentations,
submissions, etc. It was given by the museum curator (MBA, Yale an artist
herself) and Nick Cedric, a dealer/gallery owner with 25yrs experience. He
has represented Michael Lucero, and James Rosenquist amongst others.
For what it's worth, they were VERY explicit about slides, the importance of
showing ONLY one image on each, having NO distractions in the background,
great lighting and clearly marking each slide with your name, title of work,
media, dimensions, etc. A gallery, group show, etc wants images they can
easily use to promote you and their event(s). They also said jurors
initially go through slides VERY quickly, eliminating those that they feel
do not even warrant being taken out of the sleeve. In this scenario, 2
images on one slide might eliminate you from more careful consideration.
Also, if you include a small close up on the same slide you may limit the
chance of someone being able to publish an image of a your piece in an
exhibit catalog, brochure, etc.
Just my 2 cents...
Merrill
> Just recently did a show and sat next to a woman who
> is a quilter/ SHe showed me slides with the main
> picture of her work in the middle of the slide and
> then a small close-up of her work underneath the
> centered photo. What do you think of this idea?
Edy -
I have never heard of anyone doing that, and it goes against all the advice
I have ever heard about the jurying process. Are you sure she did not mean
two separate slide images - one showing the whole piece and another with a
detail? That's certainly not uncommon, but I cannot imagine putting both
images in one slide. I think they would both suffer.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Janet Kaiser @ The Chapel of Art on thu 30 jun 05
I am not surprised that "non-traditional" images are now being accepted,=
Edy. Even by well-known, established institutions such as the Smithsonian,=
where you would expect a fairly conservative curator, jury or selecting=
team. But then that is the *Smithsonian Show*, not the Smithsonian Museum=
itself. Could that be an indication of different jurors at work? Is it one=
of those "out-sourced" shows, where a company have taken over staging it=
to relieve pressure on the permanent staff or to keep the profit and=
non-profit sections quite separate?
Whatever. I think that as youngsters take on the administration of=
galleries, museums, shows, etc. they will not have the same "respect" for=
the straight informational photographs of work which have been the norm up=
to now. You only have to look at fashion photographs in magazines to see=
that you do not even have to show the whole item being "promoted" or=
"advertised" nowadays. I was only bemoaning that this morning... Several=
full-page, colour photographs of "swimwear" in The Independent. The most I=
saw of any one bathing costume, was around the neckline (front or back) of=
the model. Coats, hats, towels, hair, beach paraphernalia obscured the=
rest of both the models and what they were wearing, so leg lines, backs,=
fronts, straps, etc. etc. were not shown. Now, there isn't too much=
material or content in the average swimming costume these days (as Mel's=
Sexy Speedo trunks so amply prove), so it was quite interesting to see=
just how much the stylists and photographers could obscure! Mind you, I=
consider that cropping the shots so only the head and shoulder were shown=
to be cheating! LOL!
Seriously... As long as "the feel", general direction or style and colour=
are discernible, I am sure that the more arty-farty a shot, the better for=
some situations. At least as far as the editors (or whatever else the=
selectors are called) are concerned.
Not just in fashion either... All the arts and crafts will be affected. In=
these penny-pinching times, they are also looking for good publicity shots=
to use in their promotional literature. Good "arty" photography provided=
by the entrants means less expense... And the more "sexy" or beefed-up=
work looks, the better. Which is why (I personally believe) we are seeing=
a lot of second rate work in shows these days... The photograph/er should=
be feted and premiered, not the pot/potter!
Whatever... This sexy photography is primarily to whet our appetites... If=
we can see the whole thing in the press photos, why bother going to see=
the original in the flesh? Let alone pick it up and possibly buy it?
But getting back to "slide preparation" for jurying and submitting to=
shows. If you are already well-known and do not rely on getting into each=
show you enter, you could try "non-traditional" images. Why not? But I do=
not think I would advise the "pot plus close-up" approach that the quilter=
used. Certainly not for shows at more established/conservative venues.=
Could be interesting as a section in a catalogue of your work, but again,=
I would advise having a goodly selection of "normal" images for future=
reference... Remember you will always be able to marry images together=
using software as and when necessary... That will only be really=
successful if you have good original images to start you off.
I see a time coming when all you have to do is point a digital camera at a=
pot and they you will be able to utilise all sorts of lighting effects and=
enhancements using a PhotoDingy. People will then be able to "lift", "turn=
over" and "rotate" the pot online... Maybe nobody will need to sell pots=
in the future... Just digital-images in a DVD format, just like we=
download music and films now...
Virtual reality, so you never pick up work by anyone every again!?! Ugh!!!
And all you asked, was, "What do you think of this idea"!
Sorry about that! But the mind wanders...
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser
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>is a quilter/ SHe showed me slides with the main
>picture of her work in the middle of the slide and
>then a small close-up of her work underneath the
>centered photo. What do you think of this idea?
> She said she got into the Smithsonian show with
>slides of this nature.
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