Brian O'Neill on thu 26 may 05
Hello everyone,
I've been working on a line of funereal urns for some time. Upon
re-entering the world of ceramics full time, urns was not top on my
list of vessels I intended to make! The idea was suggested to me after
making several urns upon the death of my father and my wife's best
friend.
So, here is the first in a rapidly evolving line of "mostly
one-of-a-kind" covered jars. They really could be used to hold many
things of course, but just happen to be designed as keepsakes for those
looking for a fitting vessel to hold the ashes of a loved one.
http://www.fireflyurns.com
Please feel free to send me your comments both on the website itself
and the urns. Yesterday was its inauguration, so I'll be adjusting
things, but let me know if you see things that aren't working well, or
missing, or just plain ugly. If you've every done a Google search for
urns, you'll see that there's a wide range of approaches to this
sensitive subject. Also a wide range of prices. Any thoughts on this
would be welcome too.
There are a few "placeholder" images, and the data fields on the
contact page aren't functional yet, but here it is such as it is.
Thanks for taking a look. A website of my other work will be up in the
near future.
Regards,
Brian
Brian Thomas O'Neill
Functional | Sculptural Ceramic Vessels
2985 Goshen Rd | Bellingham, WA | 98226 | 360 592 3164
brianoneill@cablespeed.com
Tony Ferguson on fri 27 may 05
Lisa,
Sure. I tell you what I told the folks in Vegas where I recently gave a photo workshop for artists:
Different types of light have different color temperatures with respect to the light spectrum and the way we measure and categorize lights waves--more specifically, how the camera interprets what its seeing. A cloudy day would have a color temperature (aka "K") around 8570K degrees. Morning light might have a color temp around 6000k. A photoflood would be between 3000 and 3200K.
Whatever you are shooting with in terms of the film type needs to be balanced for the type and with it the degree of light (which has to do with the speed of your film and what you set your shutter speed at): Incandescent, Florescent, Halogen, Tungsten, Daylight all have different color temps. Now with digital and with either a preset or wonderful feature called "white balance" you adjust the camera (and readily see if you color matches) through previewing your images. Simply put: use the right film for the conditions: daylight balanced for outside and match the speed of the film to your iso setting. Using digital, find the setting that fits your lighting conditions. Have your iso setting as close to 100 as you can as you images will be crisper.
Tony Ferguson
http://tonyferguson.net
"L. P. Skeen" wrote:
Tony can you talk more about this and what it means?
Thanks
L
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From: "Tony Ferguson"
> 1. Color temperature--you many images where your color temp does not
> match the film or speed you are shooting at. If you are using digital,
> then match the color temp to your speed. If you're using slides film,
> then also the same.
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Tony Ferguson on fri 27 may 05
Actually Lee,
"It is a long time practice of mine, not to inquire about a product if
its price isn't listed. 9 times out of 10, if the price is not listed,
it is probably priced too high."
That is an assumption as "high" is relative. The Internet is full of shopping cart convenient have it your way one sided interaction. Why not facilitate a potential dialog with someone who takes the time to email you over their interest in your work?
I have a price list but one has to request it or individual pricing. Sometimes I even leave out the sizes so that scale is not entering into their viewing experience and they are just able to take in the form, color, texture, of the piece, how it makes them feel, what is reminds them of, etc. Shiro Otani and many others including the majority on-line galleries do not list the price next to the piece. Most physical galleries I walk into, the work is separated from the $$ amount with the exception usually of a number to signify its description, title, and price on a price sheet. Why not let them make an inquiry if they are genuinely interested and let your work retain a little mystery desirous of inquiry?
The reason for my modus operandi is to get away from flee market and shopping cart mentality and enter into a dialog with the potential buyer. A one time buyer is fine with me but why not develop a relationship that leads to a collector of your work--answer their questions, share your ideas when asked, etc. You would be surprised at the phone conversations I've had because of how I have set up my website. Having a website, email, listing your phone number (certainly opens you to whomever) but it has allowed connections that could never have taken place, dialogs between myself, collectors, artists, students, etc. where we all have an opportunity learn something, share something from each other and also make a sale. I find thanking and talking with people usually refreshing for both of us as well as discovering odd and not so odd sorts of connections as to their interest in the work, their life, what led them to appreciating pottery, etc. Just my two cents. I appreciate your
thoughts, Lee.
Tony Ferguson
Lee Love wrote:
Tony Ferguson wrote:
>3. List the dimensions or have posted "inquiry for sizes and prices" so they email you. It may annoy them, but it weeds out people who aren't really interested and builds your mailing list.
>
It is a long time practice of mine, not to inquire about a product if
its price isn't listed. 9 times out of 10, if the price is not listed,
it is probably priced too high.
--
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愛 鱗
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
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difference. If you don't have it in the heart, nothing you make will
make a difference." ~~Bernard Leach~~ (As told to Dean Schwarz)
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Steve Irvine on fri 27 may 05
Hi Brian,
Your new website looks great! It is simple, elegant and I like your choices of colours. I'm viewing it
with an iMac G5 widescreen, running Safari 1.2.4.
If I can make two small suggestions. Rather than using a gif for your "welcome" on the first page,
it might be better to have it as a written heading. Since you are using a cascading style sheet
approach it would be easy to have a heading with the colour and font size designated for the
welcome. This would make it faster to load, and it would eliminate the jaggy apearance.
The other suggestion is to have a descriptive title for the title bar of the browser window. The title
of the stoneware page for example is "product_stnwr" which won't get you any mileage with
search engines.
Hope this helps. Congratulations with the fine work and website.
Steve Irvine
http://www.steveirvine.com
Mike Gordon on fri 27 may 05
Brian,
I found your web site to be very easy to navigate and the urns are
beautiful to look at. My only question is...... what are the sizes?
Mike Gordon
On May 26, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Brian O'Neill wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I've been working on a line of funereal urns for some time.
> Regards,
> Brian
>
> Brian Thomas O'Neill
> Functional | Sculptural Ceramic Vessels
> 2985 Goshen Rd | Bellingham, WA | 98226 | 360 592 3164
> brianoneill@cablespeed.com
>
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Ann Brink on fri 27 may 05
Hello Brian,
I loved the look of your pots, and only have 2 suggestions about the site:
One, in your front page statement, you say: "it was only until my father
passed away..." I suggest you say either: "it was not until my father passed
away", or "it was only when my father passed away..."
Two, the line of options at the bottom of the page seems to all run together
for me. You could change the spacing just a little, or have the divider
bars be more distinctive...something to separate the words a bit.
Good luck with the line of work
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
>
> I've been working on a line of funereal urns for some time. Upon
> re-entering the world of ceramics full time, urns was not top on my
> list of vessels I intended to make! The idea was suggested to me after
> making several urns upon the death of my father and my wife's best
> friend.
>
> So, here is the first in a rapidly evolving line of "mostly
> one-of-a-kind" covered jars. They really could be used to hold many
> things of course, but just happen to be designed as keepsakes for those
> looking for a fitting vessel to hold the ashes of a loved one.
>
> http://www.fireflyurns.com
>
> Please feel free to send me your comments both on the website itself
> and the urns. Yesterday was its inauguration, so I'll be adjusting
> things, but let me know if you see things that aren't working well, or
> missing, or just plain ugly. If you've every done a Google search for
> urns, you'll see that there's a wide range of approaches to this
> sensitive subject. Also a wide range of prices. Any thoughts on this
> would be welcome too.
>
Tony Ferguson on fri 27 may 05
Brian,
Overall, a good start for your website. One's website is also like one's personal aesthetic--we like what we like. Some very beautiful textures and surfaces on those covered jars. I would make the following suggestions:
1. Color temperature--you many images where your color temp does not match the film or speed you are shooting at. If you are using digital, then match the color temp to your speed. If you're using slides film, then also the same.
2. More images of the works--show us the inside, another side, a detail and maybe even the bottom of the works.
3. List the dimensions or have posted "inquiry for sizes and prices" so they email you. It may annoy them, but it weeds out people who aren't really interested and builds your mailing list.
Keep it up. Developing a website is no different than developing a new body of work--its a work in progress and you figure it out as you go along. Great beginning!
Tony Ferguson
Brian O'Neill wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been working on a line of funereal urns for some time. Upon
re-entering the world of ceramics full time, urns was not top on my
list of vessels I intended to make! The idea was suggested to me after
making several urns upon the death of my father and my wife's best
friend.
So, here is the first in a rapidly evolving line of "mostly
one-of-a-kind" covered jars. They really could be used to hold many
things of course, but just happen to be designed as keepsakes for those
looking for a fitting vessel to hold the ashes of a loved one.
http://www.fireflyurns.com
Please feel free to send me your comments both on the website itself
and the urns. Yesterday was its inauguration, so I'll be adjusting
things, but let me know if you see things that aren't working well, or
missing, or just plain ugly. If you've every done a Google search for
urns, you'll see that there's a wide range of approaches to this
sensitive subject. Also a wide range of prices. Any thoughts on this
would be welcome too.
There are a few "placeholder" images, and the data fields on the
contact page aren't functional yet, but here it is such as it is.
Thanks for taking a look. A website of my other work will be up in the
near future.
Regards,
Brian
Brian Thomas O'Neill
Functional | Sculptural Ceramic Vessels
2985 Goshen Rd | Bellingham, WA | 98226 | 360 592 3164
brianoneill@cablespeed.com
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L. P. Skeen on fri 27 may 05
Tony can you talk more about this and what it means?
Thanks
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ferguson"
> 1. Color temperature--you many images where your color temp does not
> match the film or speed you are shooting at. If you are using digital,
> then match the color temp to your speed. If you're using slides film,
> then also the same.
Lee Love on sat 28 may 05
Tony Ferguson wrote:
>3. List the dimensions or have posted "inquiry for sizes and prices" so they email you. It may annoy them, but it weeds out people who aren't really interested and builds your mailing list.
>
It is a long time practice of mine, not to inquire about a product if
its price isn't listed. 9 times out of 10, if the price is not listed,
it is probably priced too high.
--
李 Lee Love 大
愛 鱗
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://hankos.blogspot.com/ Visual Bookmarks
http://ikiru.blogspot.com/ Zen and Craft
"With Humans it's what's here (he points to his heart) that makes the
difference. If you don't have it in the heart, nothing you make will
make a difference." ~~Bernard Leach~~ (As told to Dean Schwarz)
Lee Love on sat 28 may 05
L. P. Skeen wrote:
> Tony can you talk more about this and what it means?
Lisa, you can match the kind of film to the kind of light your are using
in both film and digital cameras.
I don't know if this is so important as is multiple photos of the pots,
like Tony does on his site.
--
李 Lee Love 大
愛 鱗
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://hankos.blogspot.com/ Visual Bookmarks
http://ikiru.blogspot.com/ Zen and Craft
"With Humans it's what's here (he points to his heart) that makes the difference. If you don't have it in the heart, nothing you make will make a difference." ~~Bernard Leach~~ (As told to Dean Schwarz)
Phil Davenport on sat 28 may 05
The main problem with not using the correct film with any type of light
source is that you will get a color shift. That means that your images
will not truly reflect what you are trying to show. If you are shooting
daylight film under tungsten light you will get a shift to yellow. (this
is usually the most common problem)
The other thing one should be concerned about is the type of background
that the being used. It should be neutral in color so the color of the
glazes will really stand out.
Phil Davenport
Garland, Tx.
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Love
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:55 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: My first web site--comments welcome!
L. P. Skeen wrote:
> Tony can you talk more about this and what it means?
Lisa, you can match the kind of film to the kind of light your are using
in both film and digital cameras.
I don't know if this is so important as is multiple photos of the pots,
like Tony does on his site.
Mike & Diane on sun 29 may 05
Lee,
My philosophy (and not just on ceramics) has always been, "If you have to
ask, you can't afford it." Now this doesn't mean that it's necessarily
priced accordingly but I think your comments are right on.
Diane Rae,
Great Falls, Montana
"The shortest distance between two humans is laughter."
Lee Love wrote:
It is a long time practice of mine, not to inquire about a product if
its price isn't listed. 9 times out of 10, if the price is not listed,
it is probably priced too high.
Tony Ferguson wrote:
>3. List the dimensions or have posted "inquiry for sizes and prices" so they
email you. It may annoy them, but it weeds out people who aren't really
interested and builds your mailing list.
>
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