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updated thu 19 may 05

 

marianne kuiper milks on wed 18 may 05


Hello again,

I found two websties where there was info (some too
simplistic but that's fine, too) where you can find
very basic terminology and some of
the..structures..?..of basic glazes.
They are:
www.lourdes.ede/SYLLABI/spring05/chemistry/CHM%20165/chapter4A-ceramic_files
I hope that's right since my pen gave out. I have it
saved on my husband's computer. I wonder if "ede" has
to be "edu".

Other one: History of Ceramics
www.claypath.studio.com/ceramic%20terms.html
(daypatth??)
It's simple, but when you're confused about kaolins,
ball and OM4 stuff, this may shed some light as well.

What you wrote in this email is EXACTLY where I am:
read much, want to make a nice glaze, figure it out
and expand from there. Thanks and keep exchanging
info!!

Have a sunny glaze, Marianne

--- gjudson wrote:

> [GJJ] Marianne wrote:
> Regarding glazes. This past spring I took a class
> from
> William Tersteeg here in NE PA, someone who is
> highly
> knowledgeable regarding glazes. However: we were
> only
> able to touch the tip of the iceberg, with so many
> other things competing for time.
>
> I am going to look up some of the simple
> (simplified,
> that is) lists he gave us regarding the function of
> various standard ingredients. It was, for me, a good
> start. Perhaps you know all this. Doesn't hurt. I'll
> send it to you as soon as I can.
>
> [GJJ] I have not had any personal help--till now
> with you and Steve--and
> have just been working with books. I started off
> with Cuff's "Ceramic
> Technology for Potters and Sculptors" but it was way
> over my head. I did
> not have the discipline to work through it nor the
> background to support it.
> As I mentioned I took both "Mastering Cone 6 Glazes"
> and "Cone 6 Glazes" as
> recipe books and realize now that I need the
> instruction they offer more
> than the recipes! I am aware of digital fire web
> site and have referred to
> it frequently. I have been taking classes at
> Southwest School of Art and
> Craft--which I have greatly enjoyed. But there we
> USE glazes--not make or
> study or try to understand them. So I have taken up
> glaze making on my own.
> I have not had great success yet--though no
> disasters either--but so much of
> the trouble seemed related to the kiln problems that
> I am not discouraged.
> Really I am very inspired to get a couple good
> glazes under my belt. I got a
> copy of Ian Currie's "Smashing Glazes" today and
> intend to take a workshop
> with him in September. It seems that he really
> narrows the focus down to
> bite size in his book.
>
> The helps that Steve Slatin has offered you and me
> in this dialogue make me
> much more confident. The long post he gives today
> is a very rich overview
> of just what I need to have at my fingertips as I
> wade into my glaze mixing
> the next couple of days. Hope I can apply some of
> what he has offered to
> good effect.
>
> I am grateful for anything you have to share. Maybe
> together we'll break
> through this challenge.
>
> Gay Judson, San Antonio, TX
>
>
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marianne kuiper milks on wed 18 may 05


Hello again,

I found two websties where there was info (some too
simplistic but that's fine, too) where you can find
very basic terminology and some of
the..structures..?..of basic glazes.
They are:
www.lourdes.ede/SYLLABI/spring05/chemistry/CHM%20165/chapter4A-ceramic_files
I hope that's right since my pen gave out. I have it
saved on my husband's computer. I wonder if "ede" has
to be "edu".

Other one: History of Ceramics
www.claypath.studio.com/ceramic%20terms.html
(daypatth??)
It's simple, but when you're confused about kaolins,
ball and OM4 stuff, this may shed some light as well.

What you wrote in this email is EXACTLY where I am:
read much, want to make a nice glaze, figure it out
and expand from there. Thanks and keep exchanging
info!!

Have a sunny glaze, Marianne

--- gjudson wrote:

> [GJJ] Marianne wrote:
> Regarding glazes. This past spring I took a class
> from
> William Tersteeg here in NE PA, someone who is
> highly
> knowledgeable regarding glazes. However: we were
> only
> able to touch the tip of the iceberg, with so many
> other things competing for time.
>
> I am going to look up some of the simple
> (simplified,
> that is) lists he gave us regarding the function of
> various standard ingredients. It was, for me, a good
> start. Perhaps you know all this. Doesn't hurt. I'll
> send it to you as soon as I can.
>
> [GJJ] I have not had any personal help--till now
> with you and Steve--and
> have just been working with books. I started off
> with Cuff's "Ceramic
> Technology for Potters and Sculptors" but it was way
> over my head. I did
> not have the discipline to work through it nor the
> background to support it.
> As I mentioned I took both "Mastering Cone 6 Glazes"
> and "Cone 6 Glazes" as
> recipe books and realize now that I need the
> instruction they offer more
> than the recipes! I am aware of digital fire web
> site and have referred to
> it frequently. I have been taking classes at
> Southwest School of Art and
> Craft--which I have greatly enjoyed. But there we
> USE glazes--not make or
> study or try to understand them. So I have taken up
> glaze making on my own.
> I have not had great success yet--though no
> disasters either--but so much of
> the trouble seemed related to the kiln problems that
> I am not discouraged.
> Really I am very inspired to get a couple good
> glazes under my belt. I got a
> copy of Ian Currie's "Smashing Glazes" today and
> intend to take a workshop
> with him in September. It seems that he really
> narrows the focus down to
> bite size in his book.
>
> The helps that Steve Slatin has offered you and me
> in this dialogue make me
> much more confident. The long post he gives today
> is a very rich overview
> of just what I need to have at my fingertips as I
> wade into my glaze mixing
> the next couple of days. Hope I can apply some of
> what he has offered to
> good effect.
>
> I am grateful for anything you have to share. Maybe
> together we'll break
> through this challenge.
>
> Gay Judson, San Antonio, TX
>
>
______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change
> your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be
> reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>




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gjudson on wed 18 may 05


Marianne, I could not reach either site. Maybe try sending the =
addresses
again. Thanks, gay

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of marianne
> kuiper milks
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:40 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Frits esp.to Gay:
>=20
> Hello again,
>=20
> I found two websties where there was info (some too
> simplistic but that's fine, too) where you can find
> very basic terminology and some of
> the..structures..?..of basic glazes.
> They are:
> www.lourdes.ede/SYLLABI/spring05/chemistry/CHM%20165/chapter4A-
> ceramic_files
> I hope that's right since my pen gave out. I have it
> saved on my husband's computer. I wonder if "ede" has
> to be "edu".
>=20
> Other one: History of Ceramics
> www.claypath.studio.com/ceramic%20terms.html
> (daypatth??)
> It's simple, but when you're confused about kaolins,
> ball and OM4 stuff, this may shed some light as well.
>=20
> What you wrote in this email is EXACTLY where I am:
> read much, want to make a nice glaze, figure it out
> and expand from there. Thanks and keep exchanging
> info!!
>=20
> Have a sunny glaze, Marianne
>=20
> --- gjudson wrote:
>=20
> > [GJJ] Marianne wrote:
> > Regarding glazes. This past spring I took a class
> > from
> > William Tersteeg here in NE PA, someone who is
> > highly
> > knowledgeable regarding glazes. However: we were
> > only
> > able to touch the tip of the iceberg, with so many
> > other things competing for time.
> >
> > I am going to look up some of the simple
> > (simplified,
> > that is) lists he gave us regarding the function of
> > various standard ingredients. It was, for me, a good
> > start. Perhaps you know all this. Doesn't hurt. I'll
> > send it to you as soon as I can.
> >
> > [GJJ] I have not had any personal help--till now
> > with you and Steve--and
> > have just been working with books. I started off
> > with Cuff's "Ceramic
> > Technology for Potters and Sculptors" but it was way
> > over my head. I did
> > not have the discipline to work through it nor the
> > background to support it.
> > As I mentioned I took both "Mastering Cone 6 Glazes"
> > and "Cone 6 Glazes" as
> > recipe books and realize now that I need the
> > instruction they offer more
> > than the recipes! I am aware of digital fire web
> > site and have referred to
> > it frequently. I have been taking classes at
> > Southwest School of Art and
> > Craft--which I have greatly enjoyed. But there we
> > USE glazes--not make or
> > study or try to understand them. So I have taken up
> > glaze making on my own.
> > I have not had great success yet--though no
> > disasters either--but so much of
> > the trouble seemed related to the kiln problems that
> > I am not discouraged.
> > Really I am very inspired to get a couple good
> > glazes under my belt. I got a
> > copy of Ian Currie's "Smashing Glazes" today and
> > intend to take a workshop
> > with him in September. It seems that he really
> > narrows the focus down to
> > bite size in his book.
> >
> > The helps that Steve Slatin has offered you and me
> > in this dialogue make me
> > much more confident. The long post he gives today
> > is a very rich overview
> > of just what I need to have at my fingertips as I
> > wade into my glaze mixing
> > the next couple of days. Hope I can apply some of
> > what he has offered to
> > good effect.
> >
> > I am grateful for anything you have to share. Maybe
> > together we'll break
> > through this challenge.
> >
> > Gay Judson, San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> =
_________________________________________________________________________=
_
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> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> > You may look at the archives for the list or change
> > your subscription
> > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be
> > reached at melpots@pclink.com.
> >
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