Gail Fullerton on mon 9 may 05
After reading all the posting about the miserable effects of breathing =
the products of my pot making, I'm convinced I need a better air filter =
for my 24'x28' studio. I would appreciate hearing about other potters =
experiences with their air filters, and their recommendations.
Gail Fullerton in Fairbanks, Alaska
Kenneth D. Westfall on tue 10 may 05
Truthfully a mop ,bucket and wet sponge used every day in the studio will
do more for your breathing then a filter blowing air around to assure the
nasties stay suspended for you to breath.
At 05:21 PM 5/9/05 -0800, you wrote:
>After reading all the posting about the miserable effects of breathing the
>products of my pot making, I'm convinced I need a better air filter for my
>24'x28' studio. I would appreciate hearing about other potters
>experiences with their air filters, and their recommendations.
>Gail Fullerton in Fairbanks, Alaska
Kenneth D. Westfall
Pine Hill Pottery
R.D. #2 Box 6AA
Harrisville, WV 26362
kenneth@pinehillpottery.com
http://www.pinehillpottery.com
Althea Vail on tue 10 may 05
In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent the money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's amazing what it picks up and what I would still be breathing if I weren't using it. Very easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight air flow, and easy to fit into the studio. It's well worth the money.
Althea
Blackwood, NJ
Gail Fullerton wrote:
After reading all the posting about the miserable effects of breathing the products of my pot making, I'm convinced I need a better air filter for my 24'x28' studio. I would appreciate hearing about other potters experiences with their air filters, and their recommendations.
Gail Fullerton in Fairbanks, Alaska
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Louis Katz on tue 10 may 05
I would read consumer reports on these before buying. How much ozone
does this unit produce?
If the airflow is slight the cleaning is slight. Most buildings exhange
air with the outside at least hourly I believe.
I keep a HEPA filter in my bedroom to try to cut down on allergens at
night, I used to have one in my office going all the time to reduce
exposure to silica. Better is to spend time and money in the studio on
clean tables, floors etc.
On May 10, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Althea Vail wrote:
> In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent
> the money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's amazing
> what it picks up and what I would still be breathing if I weren't
> using it. Very easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight air flow,
> and easy to fit into the studio. It's well worth the money.
>
> Althea
> Blackwood, NJ
>
> Gail Fullerton wrote:
> After reading all the posting about the miserable effects of breathing
> the products of my pot making, I'm convinced I need a better air
> filter for my 24'x28' studio. I would appreciate hearing about other
> potters experiences with their air filters, and their recommendations.
> Gail Fullerton in Fairbanks, Alaska
>
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Bryan on tue 10 may 05
I have a heat recovery ventilation system that uses an air to air heat
exchanger. I can't see ventilating out all of my warmth when I can
reclaim that heat.
I fantasize about an air to water heat pump to capture kiln heat and
heat the hot tub.
Bryan Johnson
Maurice Weitman on tue 10 may 05
At 6:20 AM -0700 on 5/10/05, Althea Vail wrote:
>In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent
>the money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's
>amazing what it picks up and what I would still be breathing if I
>weren't using it. Very easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight
>air flow, and easy to fit into the studio. It's well worth the
>money.
Caveat emptor...
Interesting article in
Excerpted summary:
Consumer Reports found that
... Ionic Breeze was "ineffective" as an air cleaner and
produced "almost no measurable reduction in airborne particles."
Sharper Image sued Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports. They lost.
The article (URL above) goes on to say:
Consumer Reports has criticized the claims made for
ozone-generating "air purification devices" of the
type marketed by Living Air, Alpine Industries, and
EcoQuest. Californians have filed at least two class-
action lawsuits for consumers who bought Ionic Breeze
air purifiers from Sharper Image during the past five years.
Regards,
Maurice in Fairfax, California, where the Robins have been singing
like crazy for at least a month, from dawn to dusk. We've seen and
heard several Warblers, Wrens, Towhees, and Tanagers (as opposed to
teenagers). Many of them may be singing for their breakfast... our
Cherry tree is nearly picked clean.
Carl Finch on tue 10 may 05
At 06:20 AM 5/10/2005, Althea Vail wrote:
>In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent the
>money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's amazing what it
>picks up and what I would still be breathing if I weren't using it. Very
>easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight air flow, and easy to fit into
>the studio. It's well worth the money.
In this month's (May, pg. 22) Consumer Reports: "New Concerns About
Ionizing Air Cleaners"
From the ratings: In the "Not recommended" Category--Sharper Image
Professional Series Ionic Breeze Quadra S1737 SNX, price $400, overall
rating: Poor. (!)
--Carl
in Medford, Oregon
Arnold Howard on tue 10 may 05
Many years ago I bought several negative ionizers because a friend swore by
them. He used one to prevent cigarette smoke from going into his office
cubicle where he worked.
The ionizers I bought had no air filter or fan. They simply produced
negative ions. But they were so effective that when placed near a wall, dust
particles that had been floating in the air darkened that section of wall.
The manufacturer claimed that they did not generate ozone.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
arnoldhoward@att.net / www.paragonweb.com
----- Original Message -----
> At 06:20 AM 5/10/2005, Althea Vail wrote:
>>In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent the
>>money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's amazing what it
>>picks up and what I would still be breathing if I weren't using it. Very
>>easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight air flow, and easy to fit into
>>the studio. It's well worth the money.
Tony Ferguson on tue 10 may 05
Arnold,
My parents have had a few units and It draws the finest particles to the pad which you cleaned off with a sponge. I will have to do some reading on the new units and see what they have to say. I think if a unit could pull the finest particles to an area that can be cleaned, this might be the ticket in addition to the wet work.
Tony Ferguson
Arnold Howard wrote:
Many years ago I bought several negative ionizers because a friend swore by
them. He used one to prevent cigarette smoke from going into his office
cubicle where he worked.
The ionizers I bought had no air filter or fan. They simply produced
negative ions. But they were so effective that when placed near a wall, dust
particles that had been floating in the air darkened that section of wall.
The manufacturer claimed that they did not generate ozone.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
arnoldhoward@att.net / www.paragonweb.com
----- Original Message -----
> At 06:20 AM 5/10/2005, Althea Vail wrote:
>>In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent the
>>money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's amazing what it
>>picks up and what I would still be breathing if I weren't using it. Very
>>easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight air flow, and easy to fit into
>>the studio. It's well worth the money.
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Althea Vail on wed 11 may 05
Hi Maurice,
Thanks for the heads up. I've read these articles before and then I open my Ionic Breeze to clean it and I wonder where all that dirt and dust on the interior panels is coming from if not the air in my studio? Since I already own it, I'll continue to use it unless it's proven to be harmful to my health. I know about the claims of it creating high levels of ozone, but my studio is open to my house (I know, I know, this is not great for the air in my house...got another Ionic Breeze in the house, too) and has cross ventiliation within it, so I'm not worried about high levels of ozone building up. My house/studio are older buildings and are not air tight. So I'm not concerned about the ozone claim.
Althea
Blackwood, NJ
azaleas in bloom, bunnies doing their thing, sugar snap peas almost ready to pick...yum.
Maurice Weitman wrote:
At 6:20 AM -0700 on 5/10/05, Althea Vail wrote:
>In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent
>the money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's
>amazing what it picks up and what I would still be breathing if I
>weren't using it. Very easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight
>air flow, and easy to fit into the studio. It's well worth the
>money.
Caveat emptor...
Interesting article in
Excerpted summary:
Consumer Reports found that
... Ionic Breeze was "ineffective" as an air cleaner and
produced "almost no measurable reduction in airborne particles."
Sharper Image sued Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports. They lost.
The article (URL above) goes on to say:
Consumer Reports has criticized the claims made for
ozone-generating "air purification devices" of the
type marketed by Living Air, Alpine Industries, and
EcoQuest. Californians have filed at least two class-
action lawsuits for consumers who bought Ionic Breeze
air purifiers from Sharper Image during the past five years.
Regards,
Maurice in Fairfax, California, where the Robins have been singing
like crazy for at least a month, from dawn to dusk. We've seen and
heard several Warblers, Wrens, Towhees, and Tanagers (as opposed to
teenagers). Many of them may be singing for their breakfast... our
Cherry tree is nearly picked clean.
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Louis Katz on wed 11 may 05
My understanding is that as silica particles are hard to charge these
cleaners do nothing for silica dusts and most other ceramic dusts.
Louis
On May 11, 2005, at 7:36 AM, Althea Vail wrote:
> Hi Maurice,
>
> Thanks for the heads up. I've read these articles before and then I
> open my Ionic Breeze to clean it and I wonder where all that dirt and
> dust on the interior panels is coming from if not the air in my
> studio? Since I already own it, I'll continue to use it unless it's
> proven to be harmful to my health. I know about the claims of it
> creating high levels of ozone, but my studio is open to my house (I
> know, I know, this is not great for the air in my house...got another
> Ionic Breeze in the house, too) and has cross ventiliation within it,
> so I'm not worried about high levels of ozone building up. My
> house/studio are older buildings and are not air tight. So I'm not
> concerned about the ozone claim.
>
> Althea
> Blackwood, NJ
> azaleas in bloom, bunnies doing their thing, sugar snap peas almost
> ready to pick...yum.
> Maurice Weitman wrote:
> At 6:20 AM -0700 on 5/10/05, Althea Vail wrote:
>> In addition to keeping my studio as clean as possible, I also spent
>> the money for an Ionic Breeze Quadra from Sharper Image. It's
>> amazing what it picks up and what I would still be breathing if I
>> weren't using it. Very easy to clean, no noise, only a very slight
>> air flow, and easy to fit into the studio. It's well worth the
>> money.
>
> Caveat emptor...
>
> Interesting article in
>
> Excerpted summary:
>
> Consumer Reports found that
>
> ... Ionic Breeze was "ineffective" as an air cleaner and
> produced "almost no measurable reduction in airborne particles."
>
> Sharper Image sued Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports.
> They lost.
>
> The article (URL above) goes on to say:
>
> Consumer Reports has criticized the claims made for
> ozone-generating "air purification devices" of the
> type marketed by Living Air, Alpine Industries, and
> EcoQuest. Californians have filed at least two class-
> action lawsuits for consumers who bought Ionic Breeze
> air purifiers from Sharper Image during the past five years.
>
> Regards,
> Maurice in Fairfax, California, where the Robins have been singing
> like crazy for at least a month, from dawn to dusk. We've seen and
> heard several Warblers, Wrens, Towhees, and Tanagers (as opposed to
> teenagers). Many of them may be singing for their breakfast... our
> Cherry tree is nearly picked clean.
>
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