Judy Rohrbaugh on wed 4 may 05
Thanks, Mark and Cindy. I have used those stains some time back to color
the clay for Egyptian paste, didn't think to try them at a higher temp. I
will do that.
Judy
Judy Rohrbaugh
Fine Art Stoneware
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Ohio
Judy Rohrbaugh on wed 4 may 05
Hello everyone. I work in cone 6 ox, and use engobes for decorating,
painting over leather hard clay. I wondered if anyone could suggest any materials
that I could experiment with in order to get some new colors.
I use combinations of red iron ox, cob carb, and mangasnese. That's it.
I would really like my blues to go a bit more aqua, also anything with red
besides the usual would be good. And, anything else.
Thanks.
I have been reading clayart for a few months and enjoy it.
Judy Rohrbaugh
Fine Art Stoneware
Ohio
Mark Pitney on wed 4 may 05
Hey Judy,
You can use commercially prepared stains like ones from Mason or Cerdec.
They come in a whole rainbow of colors. You use them in the same manner as the
oxides you have been using except you usually use larger amounts. A good
starting point is 10%
Mark and Cindy
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dannon rhudy on thu 5 may 05
You can get an amazing range of colors using mason
stains. Slips can be made to be nearly anything, colorwise.
Do some research. There's an article (for instance) by
Wayne Bates a few years back in Ceramics Monthly.
He has a vibrant palette. You can get the article from
CM, no doubt, and it is also in a recent book publication
of CM. There a good many other sources of underglaze
slips and/or engobes. Explore a bit, do a google search
or two - you'll have more than you can test.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
.......work in cone 6 ox, and use engobes for decorating,
> painting over leather hard clay. I wondered if anyone could suggest any
materials
> that I could experiment with in order to get some new colors.
Kate Johnson on thu 5 may 05
> You can get an amazing range of colors using mason
> stains. Slips can be made to be nearly anything, colorwise.
But DO be sure the Mason stain you choose fits the job at hand. I bought
some to tint earthenware slip in my ongoing attempt to recreate the effect
of 18th C. slipware, going by color, and discovered that I'd bought highly
refractory stains. When I glazed over them the clear, gloss glaze just
appeared to sink in or disappear entirely. A VERY strange effect where I
had done a contrasting slip over the golden yellow--the dark brown
feathering was shiny, the yellowish background was matte. Obviously not
workable for functional ware...
And by the way for the most part, "stain" is something of a misnomer, at
least as I use it as a watercolorist, where some colors are staining
pigments which are not easily lifted or removed and some are not, and simply
sit on the surface. Most, if not all, Mason stains would do the latter, not
sink into the surface of your slip if painted on. (Before firing, of
course.)
Best--
Kate Johnson
graphicart@epsi.net
http://www.cathyjohnson.info/
Art, History, Nature and More at Cathy Johnson's Cafepress--
http://www.cafepress.com/cathy_johnson/
Graphics/Fine Arts Press--
http://www.epsi.net/graphic/
Ceramic Design Group on thu 5 may 05
Mason stains are quite versatile materials and can be used in many
different ways and in many varied and diverse applications. You can
color glazes, engobes, decorating slips, casting slips, clay bodies
etc. etc.
I would present a caveat that while in many cases yes you can just
"add some" to you mixture and voila! have it produce great results for
you but there are some that don't like certain temperatures or
atmospheres and it would be prudent to test a range of stains in
differing percentages before committing it to your work.
Best
Jonathan
On May 5, 2005, at 7:36 AM, Kate Johnson wrote:
>> You can get an amazing range of colors using mason
>> stains. Slips can be made to be nearly anything, colorwise.
>
> But DO be sure the Mason stain you choose fits the job at hand. I
> bought
> some to tint earthenware slip in my ongoing attempt to recreate the
> effect
> of 18th C. slipware, going by color, and discovered that I'd bought
> highly
> refractory stains. When I glazed over them the clear, gloss glaze just
> appeared to sink in or disappear entirely. A VERY strange effect
> where I
> had done a contrasting slip over the golden yellow--the dark brown
> feathering was shiny, the yellowish background was matte. Obviously
> not
> workable for functional ware...
>
> And by the way for the most part, "stain" is something of a misnomer,
> at
> least as I use it as a watercolorist, where some colors are staining
> pigments which are not easily lifted or removed and some are not, and
> simply
> sit on the surface. Most, if not all, Mason stains would do the
> latter, not
> sink into the surface of your slip if painted on. (Before firing, of
> course.)
>
> Best--
> Kate Johnson
> graphicart@epsi.net
> http://www.cathyjohnson.info/
>
> Art, History, Nature and More at Cathy Johnson's Cafepress--
> http://www.cafepress.com/cathy_johnson/
>
> Graphics/Fine Arts Press--
> http://www.epsi.net/graphic/
>
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