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updated tue 5 apr 05

 

Paul Lewing on fri 1 apr 05


OK Folks. I'm in the process of writing a book on china painting for the
American Ceramic Society, and the time has come for me to start looking for
pictures to illustrate it. This is the ad I've just sent out to all the
magazines, but Clayart gets it first. I know not many people on this list
do china painting, but if you know anyone who does, please pass this on to
them.

SEEKING IMAGES FOR UPCOMING BOOK, "CHINA PAINT & OVERGLAZES." Must be
original (not duplicate) high-quality 35 mm slides, medium- or large-format
transparencies, or high-resolution digital images (tiff files, 300dpi, on
CD). Any overglaze technique eligible, including china paint, luster,
decals, raised paste, enamel, etc., on vessels, sculpture or tile. Label
with name, title, materials, technique, dimensions, and date. Mail to Paul
Lewing, 4315 Burke Avenue North, Seattle, WA 98103; 206-547-6591 . Must
include postage-paid SASE for return of materials. Deadline July 1.

DO NOT E-MAIL PICTURES TO ME!

I'm also looking for pictures of historical pieces with china paint or
overglaze enamels, like Ming and Ching Dynasty Chinese work, 18th century
Japanese, German, French, and English work, and pieces from the classical
period of American china painting in the late 19th and early 20th century.
If you have pieces like that, or know someone who does, please contact me
privately.

Thank you very much,
Paul Lewing

Jeanette Harris on sat 2 apr 05


>
>
>I'm also looking for pictures of historical pieces with china paint or
>overglaze enamels, like Ming and Ching Dynasty Chinese work, 18th century
>Japanese, German, French, and English work, and pieces from the classical
>period of American china painting in the late 19th and early 20th century.
>If you have pieces like that, or know someone who does, please contact me
>privately.

Hey, Paul,
I have an antique Royal Prussian? Royal Austrian? (will have to look
it up) 19" platter ca 1880 with raised gold on the border, center
china paint picture of the Rape of the Sabine Women by Rubens. And a



oops!
Meant to send that to Paul privately. But it got me thinking......is
it difficult to get images of examples like this? If you can only
find them in museums, do you have to pay for reproductions in a book
like Paul's? And if you have to pay, is it expensive?


The art museum in Auckland, New Zealand has much of it's collection
on line. You can order digital images from them at a running scale
according to size. They don't sell posters or reproductions for
framing anymore.

Jeanette Harris on sat 2 apr 05


>
>
>I'm also looking for pictures of historical pieces with china paint or
>overglaze enamels, like Ming and Ching Dynasty Chinese work, 18th century
>Japanese, German, French, and English work, and pieces from the classical
>period of American china painting in the late 19th and early 20th century.
>If you have pieces like that, or know someone who does, please contact me
>privately.

Hey, Paul,
I have an antique Royal Prussian? Royal Austrian? (will have to look
it up) 19" platter ca 1880 with raised gold on the border, center
china paint picture of the Rape of the Sabine Women by Rubens. And a
2 1/2' vase with raised gold borders with a painting of two people in
a garden, a landscape scene on the reverse, all china paint. Also a
small trivet done by my college art professor when she was a girl.
Very good example of the 'hobby' type of painting at the turn of the
century.

Also, I have two porcelain ray guns. One was done with a combo of
underglazes with enamel over layers and the other with enamel over a
plain white glaze. They are currently at "Toys Designed by Artists"
at the Arkansas Art Center. Tom Holt did the slides. And I have
another ray gun that has a faux metal treatment.

Cheers,
Jeanette

Paul Lewing on sun 3 apr 05


Maybe it's a good thing you sent this to the list, Jeanette.

on 4/2/05 6:45 PM, Jeanette Harris at monkeymind@COMCAST.NET wrote:

> Meant to send that to Paul privately. But it got me thinking......is
> it difficult to get images of examples like this?
Yes.

If you can only
> find them in museums, do you have to pay for reproductions in a book
> like Paul's?
Yes.

And if you have to pay, is it expensive?
Yes. Since ACerS is non-profit, and this is a textbook, Seattle Art Museum
will only charge me their lowest rate- $60 per image. I'm not sure if we
reprint the book id we have to pay again. Probably so.
The Met in NY charges $120 per image, per use, and you only get to keep the
image for three months, then you have to pay again. No one gets a book
together in three months.

The pictures from the so-called "Golden Age" of china painting (1875-1920)
aren't too much trouble. Lots of china painters have collections. For that
period I only need pieces by well-known artists. There are tons of hobby
pieces from that era. I was the most popular recreational activity in the
world then, but most of it is not appropriate for this book.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

The Chapel of Art on mon 4 apr 05


Diane P. and other authors who have published books with historical images=
will be able to answer in detail, but the answer is "yes", Jeanette.=
Museums and galleries usually charge for use of images. Charges vary=
considerably... They can be anything from a nominal amount, to a sum which=
makes you wonder if they just want to keep their collections to=
themselves! The classic example there, is the Terracotta Army in China=
which is almost exclusively confined to "official" books published by the=
authorities. Even the postcards and slides available on the ground are=
very limited and of questionable quality.

It is also interesting to know who holds copyright... It does not always=
follow that the museum/gallery which owns the original is also the one who=
gets any fees paid... For example, I was told that Bill Gates was busy=
buying up the reproduction rights of work in many top public museums and=
galleries around the world. They are nearly all strapped for cash thanks=
to governments of all persuasion thinking that The Arts are a waste of=
money and an easy way of ingratiating themselves to tax-payers!

I can imagine this is the one reason that seminal work "World Ceramics" an=
illustrated history edited by Robert J. Charleston, is not being revised,=
reworked and reprinted in colour. It would cost a fortune just to trace=
all the work shown, let alone get it photographed anew and pay for=
permission to reproduce the images again... Shame, because it is such a=
wonderful book and it would be absolutely brilliant to see all those=
hundreds of pots in full colour... All 1019 of them!

Sincerely

Janet Kaiser

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>oops!
>Meant to send that to Paul privately. But it got me thinking......is
>it difficult to get images of examples like this? If you can only
>find them in museums, do you have to pay for reproductions in a book
>like Paul's? And if you have to pay, is it expensive?
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