Frank Colson on mon 21 mar 05
Darlene- To find clay source in Puebla, contact Helen Escobedo
(ingart@correo.azc.uam.mx) and mention my name. She is an international
artist/sculptor ,who certainly can provide you with a pottery clay source.
It is foolish to even think of hauling clay to Puebla. The entire Mexican
culture is active in clay art activities. If you don't connect with the
above address, request info from www.sculpture.org
Frank Colson www.R2D2u.com
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From: "Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: clay source in Mexico?
> Hello everyone!
>
> Rested up from NCECA? Sounds like it was a good experience! I am
> planning to make it one of these years!
>
> I have a niece who is teaching missionary children in Puebla, Mexico
> and wants to do a clay project with them. She has a class of 12 and
> wanted me to send along some clay with my sister who is visiting (from
> Ohio, USA) next week. I suspect my sister will bulk at trying to
> transport clay on the plane with her, but if anyone has done it , any
> suggestions?
>
> Anyone know a local source of clay for her? Either a supplier or local
> source that wouldn't be too hard to retrieve?
> She doesn't need a lot. I suspect 20 pounds would be sufficient.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated!
> Darlene Yarnetsky, Madison Indiana, USA
>
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Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery on mon 21 mar 05
Hello everyone!
Rested up from NCECA? Sounds like it was a good experience! I am
planning to make it one of these years!
I have a niece who is teaching missionary children in Puebla, Mexico
and wants to do a clay project with them. She has a class of 12 and
wanted me to send along some clay with my sister who is visiting (from
Ohio, USA) next week. I suspect my sister will bulk at trying to
transport clay on the plane with her, but if anyone has done it , any
suggestions?
Anyone know a local source of clay for her? Either a supplier or local
source that wouldn't be too hard to retrieve?
She doesn't need a lot. I suspect 20 pounds would be sufficient.
Any suggestions appreciated!
Darlene Yarnetsky, Madison Indiana, USA
purplelama@AOL.COM on tue 22 mar 05
< I suspect my sister will bulk at trying to
< transport clay on the plane with her, but if anyone has done it , any
< suggestions?
< Anyone know a local source of clay for her? Either a supplier or local
< source that wouldn't be too hard to retrieve?
< She doesn't need a lot. I suspect 20 pounds would be sufficient.
Sorry I can't help you with a source of clay in Mexico, but I do have a warning about transporting the clay. I have noticed lately that some of the airlines are getting picky about how much weight you carry in your checked luggage. I used to fly across the country every week for work and back in those days - pre 911, the airlines pretty much ignored how much my suitcases weighed. Even right after 911, when I was flying each week between LA and Houston, the weight was ignored. Not lately. My bags have been weighed individually and each better not weigh more than 50 pounds or I will have to pay $50, I think I was told. NO WAY! That was even true on one trip when I had only one suitcase when 2 were permitted. In that case, I took out a 7 lb nursing book and carried it on the plane with me so that my suitcase weighed less than 50 pounds.
I'll really be in trouble if the airlines make ME get on the scale!
Shula
in filthadelphia
AKA Philadelphia, PA USA
49 days until my last final in this program
up late working on a poster presentation
picked up my cap and gown last week
haven't been to any of my graduations since junior high
not high school, not BA, not MBA, but just may go this graduation when I get a BSN. Hope a couple of my grandchildren can attend it as well. It would be fun to have them there.
Anjel Luna on tue 22 mar 05
Hello Darlene, I might be able to give you some possible source ideas
without having been that far into mexico. I currently live and teach
in Yuma, Arizona. The towns on the border in Mexico ussually have
clay (barro, arcilla) factories to make roof shingles and other
items. She can search for these places by asking her hosts. Hope
this help, Angel Luna
Valice Raffi on wed 23 mar 05
Hi Darlene,
I don't know where Puebla is, but if it's close to the border, you might be
able to find a source in the US close enough. 20 lbs. is not very much to
bring on a plane and that might be the easiest way to get it there. Most
airlines allow 2 checked bags of 50 lbs (plus carry-ons), but check with
the airline first.
Valice
happy in Las Cruces, NM
>Hello everyone!
>
>Rested up from NCECA? Sounds like it was a good experience! I am
>planning to make it one of these years!
>
>I have a niece who is teaching missionary children in Puebla, Mexico
>and wants to do a clay project with them. She has a class of 12 and
>wanted me to send along some clay with my sister who is visiting (from
>Ohio, USA) next week. I suspect my sister will bulk at trying to
>transport clay on the plane with her, but if anyone has done it , any
>suggestions?
>
>Anyone know a local source of clay for her? Either a supplier or local
>source that wouldn't be too hard to retrieve?
>She doesn't need a lot. I suspect 20 pounds would be sufficient.
>
>Any suggestions appreciated!
>Darlene Yarnetsky, Madison Indiana, USA
Earl Brunner on wed 23 mar 05
There might be issues with taking "soil" into another country. A few years
ago at NCECA there was some potters from the Caribbean who need their local
clay for their demo, they had a heck of a time getting it into the country.
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Valice Raffi
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:50 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: clay source in Mexico?
Hi Darlene,
I don't know where Puebla is, but if it's close to the border, you might be
able to find a source in the US close enough. 20 lbs. is not very much to
bring on a plane and that might be the easiest way to get it there. Most
airlines allow 2 checked bags of 50 lbs (plus carry-ons), but check with
the airline first.
Valice
happy in Las Cruces, NM
>Hello everyone!
>
>Rested up from NCECA? Sounds like it was a good experience! I am
>planning to make it one of these years!
>
>I have a niece who is teaching missionary children in Puebla, Mexico
>and wants to do a clay project with them. She has a class of 12 and
>wanted me to send along some clay with my sister who is visiting (from
>Ohio, USA) next week. I suspect my sister will bulk at trying to
>transport clay on the plane with her, but if anyone has done it , any
>suggestions?
>
>Anyone know a local source of clay for her? Either a supplier or local
>source that wouldn't be too hard to retrieve?
>She doesn't need a lot. I suspect 20 pounds would be sufficient.
>
>Any suggestions appreciated!
>Darlene Yarnetsky, Madison Indiana, USA
Ben on wed 23 mar 05
> I don't know where Puebla is,
Puebla de los Angeles. South of Mexico City. I think in Oaxaca. Old old
clay town. Like 1500's. Spanish imported potters (in the 1500's) from
Talavera de la Reina, Espana. Taught the very gifted locals how to make
Majolica. Tile and fountains every where. Talavera ware.
All blue on white. Lotsa religious works, ....oh well. Should be mucho
barro. Though in a town with that much spanish influence it might just be
arcilla (ar-thee-ya). (barro - mud; arcilla - clay)
Take care,
Ben
Janet Kaiser on thu 24 mar 05
Sorry, no, I cannot help! I do not even know a man* who can... Not least=
because the mind boggles at the very idea! But this is one of those=
questions that make me sit and think, thoughts bouncing off at a=
tangent... This is nothing like the answer solicited, but I wonder if the=
young woman has considered making a more relevant contribution to their=
education, rather than a simple opportunity for her class to make=
something out of clay? "Importing" clay from elsewhere (Ohio, USA no=
less!!?) would also give the false impression of clay being a luxury=
product, which is naturally not something one would want to do as a potter=
or a educationalist! If I was out teaching Missionary children somewhere,=
I would try to get their elders involved right from the start. First get=
an idea of the indigenous use of clay (if any), look at the history,=
development, etc. visit clay workers locally or even invite them into=
school to demonstrate and then get out into the countryside prospecting=
for the necessary materials!
Taking clay out of context is not very meaningful in any poor community,=
especially if it is rural, but digging up the clay and then making their=
own vessels or figurines could help to train and/or revive their own=
traditions within the community. The wealth of really diverse ceramic=
traditions within Mexico do not need to be diluted from outside, but=
rather reinforced. It could provide a wonderful opportunity for the=
teacher to learn more about her adopted home and their culture, rather=
than importing and imparting her own... I do not mean this as a put down,=
but so many burn with such missionary zeal when they go out to do good=
things in the world, they sometimes overlook the obvious.
And I am talking clay, not religion here! The great Michael Cardew lived to=
regret the way he went about his "missionary work" in Africa, saying that=
in retrospect he should have taken the local traditions and methods into=
consideration far more than he did.
Of course he was the typical European colonialist who considered himself=
the "superior" being with far better technical know-how than the natives=
whose own traditions he ignored. He imported his culture and working=
methods with the very best of good intentions, but he himself concluded=
(with considerable in hindsight), that was not the most advantageous=
outcome for the community which then had adopted methods at the cost of=
losing their own tried and tested techniques and know-how...
A bright idea is definitely not always for the best in the long run, yet a=
little deeper informed thought could make a tremendous difference to the=
integrity and success of the "mission"!
*that refers to an old UK advertisement slogan for the Automobile=
Association
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser -- back on-line following at least two weeks of computer=
woes... blue-screening whenever I tried to download more than 10 e-mails,=
view a video clip, save to CD, work in Word... Now have 512 RAM and a new=
memory cache or whatever it is called. The bit taken out is really pretty.=
I fancy using it for something, but can only think of jewellery. It combs=
eyebrows well though!
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>wanted me to send along some clay with my sister who is visiting (from
>Ohio, USA) next week.
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