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digging for materials in oregon

updated fri 18 feb 05

 

Eric Hansen on sat 12 feb 05


Dear Clayarters: I am gradually beginning to discover clays and glaze mater=
ial available in the southern Willamette valley area around Eugene Oregon. =
A friend is going to direct me to where several potters have been digging g=
ood clay. And I want some of that Mt.St.Helens ash as well. Now I have come=
to learn I can dig for nepheline syenite and lepidolite too. There is an a=
bundance of pumice. Our valley is full of some type of air - bourne volcani=
c clay. Any suggestions? Any potters out here interested in sharing this ad=
venture? Eric in Eugene
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Jocelyn McAuley on sat 12 feb 05


Hi Eric,

I have a co-worker who I think did a project in the 70's mapping out
areas of lane county that would be of interest to potters. I'll chat
with Calvin, and see what info he still has.

Also, check out:
http://www.wildroad.com/celadon/research.html
a great page documenting the search for celedon making components in
oregon geology.

Also, you may want to check out the collection of theses and
dissertations produced by the geology and ceramics department at UO over
the years. (Remember that the Eugene public is welcome to use the
library facilities on campus).

best of luck!
Jocelyn

Eric Hansen wrote:

> Dear Clayarters: I am gradually beginning to discover clays and glaze material available
in the southern Willamette valley area around Eugene Oregon. A friend is
going to direct me
to where several potters have been digging good clay. And I want some of
that Mt.St.Helens
ash as well. Now I have come to learn I can dig for nepheline syenite
and lepidolite too.
There is an abundance of pumice. Our valley is full of some type of air
- bourne volcanic
clay. Any suggestions? Any potters out here interested in sharing this
adventure?

Eric in Eugene


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Edwards on sat 12 feb 05


Hello Eric: There is a mother lode of Neph Sye along the coast in
Lincoln County. It is very pure and of high grade. There should be
everything you need to make pots right there in Oregon. You're very lucky.
~Craig
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Eric Hansen wrote:

>Dear Clayarters: I am gradually beginning to discover clays and glaze material available in the southern Willamette valley area around Eugene Oregon. A friend is going to direct me to where several potters have been digging good clay. And I want some of that Mt.St.Helens ash as well. Now I have come to learn I can dig for nepheline syenite and lepidolite too. There is an abundance of pumice. Our valley is full of some type of air - bourne volcanic clay. Any suggestions? Any potters out here interested in sharing this adventure? Eric in Eugene
>
>

Ann Brink on mon 14 feb 05


> Any idea where to borrow a GPS device for outings?
>
> Cheers, Hank

If you have friends who are private pilots--there would be a good place to
start. They either have one or know someone who does.

Ann Brink in Lompoc CA

William Lucius on mon 14 feb 05


You sound like my kind of potter!

Just in case you have not thought about it, make sure to take GPS =
receiver along and use it to pinpoint each of your sources. That way =
you can tell other potters exactly where to go for clay, temper, glaze =
constituents, etc. Think of using the GPS to create a GEOCACHE database =
for potters. I definitely would like to have such a listing, even =
though I have yet to make it to Oregon. And speaking from personal =
experience, having the UTM stored in your machine will allow you to =
remember exactly where it was you found that clay or volcanic ash ten =
years ago. If you want to go over to the scientific side, think about =
taking along some canvas ore bags (available from Forestry Supplies) for =
taking voucher samples. =20

William A. Lucius
Institute for Archaeological Ceramic Research
iacr@msn.com

Hank Murrow on mon 14 feb 05


On Feb 14, 2005, at 7:22 AM, William Lucius wrote:
>
> Just in case you have not thought about it, make sure to take GPS
> receiver along and use it to pinpoint each of your sources. That way
> you can tell other potters exactly where to go for clay, temper, glaze
> constituents, etc. Think of using the GPS to create a GEOCACHE
> database for potters. I definitely would like to have such a listing,
> even though I have yet to make it to Oregon. And speaking from
> personal experience, having the UTM stored in your machine will allow
> you to remember exactly where it was you found that clay or volcanic
> ash ten years ago. If you want to go over to the scientific side,
> think about taking along some canvas ore bags (available from Forestry
> Supplies) for taking voucher samples.

Now this is a grand idea, Lucius;

It could include site etiquette so that supplies/sites are not closed
because of bad onsite behaviour among collectors. It is important to
keep the owners of such properties on the side of the potter.

Any idea where to borrow a GPS device for outings?

Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank

wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET on tue 15 feb 05


Hank:
I live in a boating community. It seems that everyone I speak to
regards GPS units as "commonplace" now. It's not unusual to see
them carried around like cell phones (but hey, they ARE a lot
quieter).
I watched a woman Monday in a Sears parking lot pull one out of her
pocket, read it for a moment or two, then announce to her daughter
"We parked over THERE". (sigh)

That said...a decent GPS handheld will set you back about $149 all
told at Boater's World (either in a store, or online) Accuracy to
about three meters (9 feet) which is close enough, I should think,
for what we're trying to do with it. Search Google, or Nextag, and
compare prices. Low end units are black and white display (LCD),
higher end units come with all sorts of "bells and whistles", and
sell for about $600 (less than an Oxyprobe)

Another use is by these clubs ("geo" something or another) that use
GPS to find hidden caches left by people who went before, like an
ongoing treasure or scavenger hunt. These caches are located on
public lands in parts of the country with access to large tracts or
parks, in cities, and most recently, one under the water for scuba
divers. Wish I could remember what the sport is called. "Time"
carried an article on it about a year ago.

You might want to check your local boating store, ships chandlery,
EBay or one of the chapters of that club. By now, I'm sure good
used ones are available.

Best,
Wayne Seidl


Now this is a grand idea, Lucius;

It could include site etiquette so that supplies/sites are not
closed
because of bad onsite behaviour among collectors. It is important to
keep the owners of such properties on the side of the potter.

Any idea where to borrow a GPS device for outings?

Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank

William Lucius on tue 15 feb 05


I cannot imagine anyone wanting to lend out their GPS receiver, but who =
knows? The prices have gone down, so you can now buy the newest Garmin =
(our brand of choice) at Target for under $300. There are other units =
available for under $100 if you do not need to upload or download data =
from your computer. Add on Maptech's Terrain Navigator for around $100 =
(topo maps of most states) if you are ready to go. Learning how to use =
the machine is relatively simple and having one to use is addictive. =
The only down side is that it becomes almost impossible to get lost, =
which is arguably one of the joys of life, second only to getting stuck =
in the mud, sand, rocks, etc.

We find most of our clays by inspecting the cut banks on the =
right-of-way of highways or roads. Of course stopping on any freeway or =
major arterial is not an option and we are always sure to put safety =
first. When we do fieldwork on Federal, State or Tribal lands we are =
governed by permits. I would suggest that you ask the land management =
officials if any permits are required for casual collection. I cannot =
think of a single clay source that we have collected from private lands, =
but asking for permission would of course be our first step. =20

William A. Lucius
Institute for Archaeological Ceramic Research
iacr@msn.com

Jocelyn McAuley on wed 16 feb 05


Hi Hank,

I'd check to see if the U of O's Outdoor Program rents them out. Also,
maybe REI (probably not, but worth a call).

Joc

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