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ifb question

updated tue 17 may 05

 

Jim Bob Salazar on wed 9 feb 05


two questions please...

i have some loose soft bricks around the studio and i need more.

what degree are the brick with the blue stripe?

and...i also need to know the name of a brick. i have an ifb..if standing
up on end (9" tall) with the with the side of the brick facing you it
tapers from 2 1/2" at the top to 1 7/8" at the bottom. what is technical
name/description for this brick?

much thanks, jim bob

John Britt on thu 10 feb 05


Jim Bob,

I think I have had some with a blue stripe I got from Larkin. Give Jim
Wunch a call and I am sure he will know. Search "Larkin Furnace Co.
Georgia".

I think that is a number 1 wedge,

Hope it helps,

John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com

Paul Herman on thu 10 feb 05


Jim Bob,

Not sure about the blue stripe, but the tapered brick is a No. 1 wedge.

best,

Paul Herman

Great Basin Pottery
Doyle, California US
http://www.greatbasinpottery.com/

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>From: Jim Bob Salazar
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: ifb question
>Date: Wed, Feb 9, 2005, 2:57 PM
>

> and...i also need to know the name of a brick. i have an ifb..if standing
> up on end (9" tall) with the with the side of the brick facing you it
> tapers from 2 1/2" at the top to 1 7/8" at the bottom. what is technical
> name/description for this brick?
>
> much thanks, jim bob

Brian Haviland on mon 16 may 05


>Hello Clayart

First off i would like to say thanks to Kelly(tell it the way it is)
Savino for her post on Clayart in regards to posting to the list. I have
always been very willing to post my two cents to the list but mostly it's
been questions because i am still learning and have never had any formal
education in the arts besides High school art class (that feels like eons
ago) and a few workshops. Kelly's post makes me feel like apologizing to
the list for not sharing the knowledge i do have and from now on I will do
my damndest to do so (that is.. share,not apologize).
Now That being said...I have another question..He He He.. I am looking at
buying # 4.400 9x4.5x3 ,2350 Deg. IFB bricks that have never been used but
have been stored outside under plastic and tarps. The weather has taken
it's toll on the plastic and some of the brick both top and bottom have
been wet. I can't see any freeze damage on outer bricks and have asked the
seller if i can dig thru one of seven skids to take a closer look at any
unforeseen problems that could be buried under other bricks. He's ok with
that... If an IFB has a chance to dry out and still holds it's shape, can
it still have a good chance at least half of it's intended life span. The
bricks are on skids and not sitting directly on the ground thank goodness
so they haven't been absorbing moisture out of the ground too. This is a
chance of a life time for me because the seller is only asking .50 cents a
brick....What a deal...But is it to good to be true ??? I have one week to
decide so I'm sweating bullets until I here from my family in Clayart land.
Thanks again for being there and taking the time to respond to my question.
I will be there for you from now on ,and not just lurking any more.

Brian Haviland

Here in Hoosierland watching the dog stalk rabbits bigger than he is in the
back yard. Oh God i hope he never catches one....
Well at least He has the heart to face the challenge. We can even learn a
lesson from a dog....See ya ! Thanks again kelly.
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Dave Finkelnburg on mon 16 may 05


Brian,
Unless the IFB has suffered freeze-thaw damage it should be fine,
whether it's been wet or not. You dip the brick in water before you mud it,
right? All our kiln brick is just fired clay. Water won't hurt brick once
it's been fired, UNLESS the water gets into the brick, freezes, and causes
the brick to crumble. That's what you want to watch for, as you already
have figured out!
DO fire the kiln SLOWLY to 200F (100C) the first time to drive moisture
out of bricks and mortar, of course.
Good kiln building!
Dave Finkelnburg

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Haviland"
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:44 AM
I am looking at
> buying # 4.400 9x4.5x3 ,2350 Deg. IFB bricks that have never been used but
> have been stored outside under plastic and tarps. The weather has taken
> it's toll on the plastic and some of the brick both top and bottom have
> been wet. I can't see any freeze damage on outer bricks and have asked the
> seller if i can dig thru one of seven skids to take a closer look at any
> unforeseen problems that could be buried under other bricks.

Paul Herman on mon 16 may 05


Hi Brian,

Sounds like a great find, buy them all if you can. Even if some are
daamaged, they would probably still work just fine on the outer layer of
the kiln.

good firings,

Paul Herman
Great Basin Pottery
Doyle, California US
http://www.greatbasinpottery.com/

----------
>From: Brian Haviland
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: IFB question
>Date: Mon, May 16, 2005, 10:44 AM
>

> Now That being said...I have another question..He He He.. I am looking at
> buying # 4.400 9x4.5x3 ,2350 Deg. IFB bricks that have never been used but
> have been stored outside under plastic and tarps. The weather has taken
> it's toll on the plastic and some of the brick both top and bottom have
> been wet. I can't see any freeze damage on outer bricks and have asked the
> seller if i can dig thru one of seven skids to take a closer look at any
> unforeseen problems that could be buried under other bricks. He's ok with
> that... If an IFB has a chance to dry out and still holds it's shape, can
> it still have a good chance at least half of it's intended life span. The
> bricks are on skids and not sitting directly on the ground thank goodness
> so they haven't been absorbing moisture out of the ground too. This is a
> chance of a life time for me because the seller is only asking .50 cents a
> brick....What a deal...

Vince Pitelka on mon 16 may 05


Brian -
In answer to your question about the effect of freezing on IFB, if the brick
still seems structurally stable, then it should be fine. During the three
years I taught at NDSU Fargo, we had several pallets of new IFB outside. We
tried to keep them covered with plastic tarps, but the wind blows ALL THE
TIME up there, and the tarps always failed quickly. Those brick got wet
many times, and sometimes froze when they were wet, but none of the brick
ever deteriorated as a result of freezing.
Good luck -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/