search  current discussion  categories  forms - misc 

cabbage bowl help needed please

updated mon 13 dec 04

 

logan johnson on fri 10 dec 04


Hi Gang,


I've searched the archives 'till the lump between my ears hurts. I was sure I had seen SOMETHING on pieces that looked like a cabbage leaf but couldn't find anything. I've heard some cabbage leaf ceramics were highly prized as collectables. My reason for asking is while thrift store shopping for card tables to use at street fairs I came across a med. sized cabbage leaf bowl. It's close to the Mason stain color "Marigold" I think. The stamp on the foot ring says: SECIA PORTUGAL Does anyone know anything about this type of work or, where the best places online are to look for myself ? I can send pictures if desired to anyone interested. By The By, I've already checked E-Bay.

Thanks in advance !


Logan Johnson Audeo Studios
www.audeostudios.com
"Carpe Argillam!!"

Jeanette Harris on fri 10 dec 04


>Hi Gang,
>
>I've searched the archives 'till the lump between my ears hurts. I
>was sure I had seen SOMETHING on pieces that looked like a cabbage
>leaf but couldn't find anything. I've heard some cabbage leaf
>ceramics were highly prized as collectables. My reason for asking is
>while thrift store shopping for card tables to use at street fairs I
>came across a med. sized cabbage leaf bowl. It's close to the Mason
>stain color "Marigold" I think. The stamp on the foot ring says:
>SECIA PORTUGAL Does anyone know anything about this type of work
>or, where the best places online are to look for myself ? I can
>send pictures if desired to anyone interested. By The By, I've
>already checked E-Bay.

Hi, Logan,

Your questions sent me in to my reference, Dictionary of Wedgewood.
Cabbage or cauliflower ware was produced by Josiah Wedgewood C. 1759
onwards. "Cream colored ware naturally modeled and coloured in
imitation of the cauliflower--usually a teapot, coffee pot, a covered
bowl or a tureen. The lower part was modelled to represent the
leaves and covered with green glaze, the flower head was cream or
yellow. It is a good example of a Wedgewood production in the rococo
style."

I think Mr. Wedgewood was the originator, though he could have
'borrowed' the design from France. Dishes like these have been
produced by many companies ever since. I'm sure your example is a
modern one.

The key here on value is who made it and when. I have seen entire
table settings in cabbage ware. For more information and possible
examples, check your local library in the antiques reference section.
Look for guides such as Miller's price guide, Kovel's guides to
antique prices, etc. Also check out American pottery guides. However,
a lot of these references are arranged with the pattern included in
the maker's listing, so it's pretty heavy slogging there.

(I believe it was the Midwestern potteries in the U.S. that produced
the spin-off of this idea in the corn ware pattern, much collected by
American pottery buffs.)

Happy hunting!

Jeanette Harris
in Poulsbo WA, who was an antique dealer in an earlier life.




--

Jeanette Harris on fri 10 dec 04


A quick Google produced:



http://www.sailthru.co.za/genware.htm
a listing under "Cabbage ware" in EBay--a white spode dish
http://store.mediterraneanfoodmarket.com/caapbo.html
http://www.jemsbazaar.com.au/prod444.htm
http://www.superbargainspace.com/CARLTON-WARE-CABBAGE-LEAF-DIVIDED-DISH-COLOR-PLUS-i3765520235-1.html

http://www.dianefarrisgallery.com/artist/boursicot/ex03/ an artist's
painting showing french pottery--good example of older work

http://www.coastalantiques.com/archives/november2001/ANTearlyenglish.html--a
mention of the ware and interesting article.

http://www.comenius.g-otte.de/sub10/rafael_bordalo_pinheiro__2_.html--This
may be where your dish came from!

and a collector
http://www.cheriestihler.com/gallery.html

heh
--
Jeanette Harris
in Poulsbo WA

mailtoandrew@FSMAIL.NET on fri 10 dec 04


Hello Logan,

Very brief but I hope of some interest: Josiah Wedgwood famously made some
pots styled after vegetables, including cabbages ... have a look at
http://www.antiquetalk.com/column217.htm

From the described back stamp your piece clearly isnt such but maybe it
was influenced by. A Google search does find some hits for Secia Portugal.

Regards,

Andrew

Candace Young/Norman Czuchra on fri 10 dec 04


There's a ceramics import shop called "The Doof Pot" in Greenport, LI, NY
that might be able to give you some information on this piece. They deal
in high end European majelica ceramics.
Candace


>Does anyone know anything about this type of work or, where the best
>places online are to look for myself ? I can send pictures if desired to
>anyone interested. By The By, I've already checked E-Bay.

Candace Young Mailto:candace@bayriverpottery.com
Norm Czuchra Mailto:norm@bayriverpottery.com

(252) 745-4749
107 S. Water Street
PO Box 394
Bayboro, NC 28515

http://bayriverpottery.com

bonnie staffel on sat 11 dec 04


I you are interested in seeing some contemporary pots made from real leaves,
check out this website:

http://lynnfisherstudios.com/ This isn't just because she is a good friend
of mine, but her work is lovely.

Regards, Bonnie Staffel
http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
http://vasefinder.com/bstaffelgallery1.html
Charter Member Potters Council