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possible to overide kilnsitter??

updated thu 2 sep 04

 

Snail Scott on tue 31 aug 04


At 12:25 AM 8/31/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>...if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the kiln, is there a way
to override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to do a soak?


Just flip the deadfall flap back up. If
the hook will hold it up by friction, use
that; if not, tape the flap back up. Then
just push the 'on' button again - no sweat.

-Snail Scott

Paul Lewing on tue 31 aug 04


on 8/30/04 4:25 PM, Jan Adams at mtnviewpottery@CHARTER.NET wrote:

> if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the kiln, is there a way to
> override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to do a soak?

Yes, Jan. When it goes off, turn all the switches to Off, lift the kiln
sitter bar back up, press the button in till it stays (just like when you
normally turn it on) then gently lower the weight. Turn the switches back
up through low, medium and high. You don't want to just turn it back on
with the switches on high because it's hard on the switches. Now you have
to watch your witness cone, which you cleverly remembered to put in before
you started the firing. When it drops, either turn the switches to Off, or
just lift the weight and drop it. It will go off as it normally does then.
Just remember that after you turn it back on, there's nothing to stop it but
you.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

Gary Harvey on tue 31 aug 04


Yes, but you have to be careful. Using any narrow pointed type object
(because it is hot), hold the metal kiln sitter bar up, then push the
button in the middle of the kiln sitter with some thing else (because it is
hot). Then lower the metal bar slowly until it is resting. If you are
careful it wont shut the kiln sitter off. YOU MUST MONITOR CONSTANTLY. It
will not shut off until you shut it off. So be wise!!! Do this at your own
risk!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Adams"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:25 PM
Subject: Possible to overide kilnsitter??


> I'm trying to get used to firing my little electric kiln with a pyrometer
and I have to use a higher kilnsetter bar so it won't click off before I
want it to. However, if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the
kiln, is there a way to override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to
do a soak? Thanks for any info, Jan
>
>
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Mark Pitney on tue 31 aug 04


Dear Jan:
Yes, it is a simple task. Please bear with me it is easier to show
someone than to explain the process. When the lever falls to shut the kiln sitter
off, all you do is pick the lever up to ease the pressure off the switch, then
you push the button back in and very gently lower the lever back down. That's
all you have to do. Good luck.
Thanks:
Cindy & Mark
The Mudpit
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Brooklyn, NY 11206
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Elaine Ray on tue 31 aug 04


On my skutt kiln sitter I can lift up the lever (that flops down when the
cone melts), turn the kiln back on by pushing in the white button then
gently letting the lever back down so it does not trip the off button. I
typically do this to give a soak at the end of a glaze firing.

Good luck,
Elaine Ray
Raleigh, NC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Adams"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: Possible to overide kilnsitter??


> I'm trying to get used to firing my little electric kiln with a pyrometer
and I have to use a higher kilnsetter bar so it won't click off before I
want it to. However, if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the
kiln, is there a way to override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to
do a soak? Thanks for any info, Jan
>
>
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Susan Fox-Hirschmann on tue 31 aug 04


In a message dated 8/31/2004 4:11:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mtnviewpottery@CHARTER.NET writes:

<< a higher kilnsetter bar so it won't click off before I want it to.
However, if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the kiln, is there a way to
override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to do a soak? >>


yeah....with my Olympics I can just push the kiln set button back in raise
the lever (carefully as it can get really hot as you probably realize) and the
kiln will go back on...If I am doing a ^6 firing tho I would put about a
^11-12 in the sitter and then watch the pyrometer and turn it off when I want to
between ^6- 10^ and then I would fire down manually.
Also it helps to have cone packs near your other peep holes to assure that
you are reaching the temp you wish to reach.
YOu will have to see how the kiln behaves as if you want to soak at a certain
temp. you may need to put the middle switch on Med and keep the others at
high to maintain temp. without the temp continuing to increase. And just keep a
good eye on the pyrometer---and the witness cones to prevent overfiring as
well.
lots a luck
Susan
Annandale, VA

Susan Fox Hirschmann
Art Pottery
please visit http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/hirschmann

Rod Wuetherick on tue 31 aug 04


Depending on what temperature you want to fire to why not use a cone much
higher than what you want to fire too but hopefully low enough that you
won't cause undo damage to your kiln.

Just a thought - If it works it would be better than just gently pushing in
the button and lowering the shut off bar gently, By lowering the trigger bar
gently after pushing in the button you have no fail safe other than you.

Cheers,
Rod

> I'm trying to get used to firing my little electric kiln with a pyrometer
and I have to use a higher kilnsetter bar so it won't click off before I
want it to. However, if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the
kiln, is there a way to override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to
do a soak? Thanks for any info, Jan

Arnold Howard on tue 31 aug 04


If the Kiln Sitter shuts off too early, you can put it on manual over-ride.
Lift the weight, press in the Kiln Sitter plunger, and gently lower the
weight. Note, however, that when on manual over-ride, the Kiln Sitter will
not shut off the kiln.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
arnoldhoward@att.net / www.paragonweb.com

----- Original Message -----
> I'm trying to get used to firing my little electric kiln with a pyrometer
and I have to use a higher kilnsetter bar so it won't click off before I
want it to. However, if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the
kiln, is there a way to override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to
do a soak? Thanks for any info, Jan

Jan Adams on tue 31 aug 04


I'm trying to get used to firing my little electric kiln with a pyrometer and I have to use a higher kilnsetter bar so it won't click off before I want it to. However, if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the kiln, is there a way to override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to do a soak? Thanks for any info, Jan

Arnold Howard on wed 1 sep 04


I'm glad Paul mentioned that the switches should be turned off before
pressing in the Kiln Sitter plunger. If you press in the plunger with
switches still on, the power will arc between the Kiln Sitter contacts. (A
switch is designed to open and close an electrical circuit so rapidly that
there is no time for the power to arc at the contacts. Pressing in the
plunger is much slower.) Arcing can eventually damage the delicate coating
on the Kiln Sitter contacts.

Incidentally, if you ever clean the Kiln Sitter contacts, use a pencil
eraser. Emery cloth is too abrasive.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
arnoldhoward@att.net / www.paragonweb.com

From: "Paul Lewing"
> Yes, Jan. When it goes off, turn all the switches to Off, lift the kiln
> sitter bar back up, press the button in till it stays (just like when you
> normally turn it on) then gently lower the weight. Turn the switches back
> up through low, medium and high. You don't want to just turn it back on
> with the switches on high because it's hard on the switches.

Steve Mills on wed 1 sep 04


I try to time it so that I can be there when it drops. Then turn off the
main switch, lift the latch, push the button in, lower the latch GENTLY,
and turn on the main again. I have a Limit Timer on mine, so I set that
to shut off after the required period of time. Otherwise use a kitchen
timer.

Steve
Bath
UK


In message , Jan Adams writes
>I'm trying to get used to firing my little electric kiln with a pyrometer and I
>have to use a higher kilnsetter bar so it won't click off before I want it to.
>However, if I am depending on my kilnsitter to turn off the kiln, is there a way
>to override it to be able to turn the kiln back on to do a soak? Thanks for any
>info, Jan

--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK