search  current discussion  categories  safety - misc 

funtional vs. food safe-not the same old question

updated sun 25 apr 04

 

Snail Scott on fri 23 apr 04


At 06:59 PM 4/23/04 -0400, you wrote:
>...some examples of what is functional but does not have to be food safe.
A ring holder? A vase?


You got it. Also coasters, flowerpots, spittoons,
ashtrays, pencil holders, chamber pots, soapdishes,
jewelry, tiles, door pulls, house numbers, lamps,
paperweights, kiln gods...

Anything I make, if it's less than a pound I call
it a paperweight. Above that, it's a doorstop.
Bigger than 20 pounds, it's a traffic bollard. ;)

-Snail Scott
Reno, Nevada, USA

Gene and Dolita Dohrman on fri 23 apr 04


Ok-help me here. What is the difference 'functionally' between =
functional and food safe. I just read the email from Sue Cline. Do I =
assume that a vase is functional but does not have to be food safe? Is =
that the gist of it? Stupid question? Yes! (I have nerve, don't I?) =
Don't want to start up the whole rant again-just give me some examples =
of what is functional but does not have to be food safe. A ring holder? =
A vase? =20
Ever yours, Dolita - whose studio is completely done, except for the =
wedging table but now I have done something to my #$%@ back again! =
Decided to take my therapy up a notch all by myself and ended up =
spending 1 1/2 hours in the therapists office pleading with her to fix =
me! Sit ups are not in my future!
Mel may not let this one by as it has a swear word in it.
Dolita

dohrman@insightbb.com
Louisville, KY

Simona Drentea on sat 24 apr 04


Dolita writes:
<just read the email from Sue Cline. Do I assume that a vase is functional but
does not have to be food safe? Is that the gist of it? Stupid question?
just give me some examples of what is functional but does not have to be food
safe. A ring holder? A vase? >>
REPLY:
Though I'm no expert, I've always believed as you seem to. A paperweight is
functional if it holds down papers, same for ringholder, ornament, vase etc.
I've personally never equated functionality w/food-safe-ness. Functionality to
me is based on whether an object fulfills the function it was intended for.
Functionality CAN be inclusive of food-safe-ness. If the function of a piece
is a plate or mug, then I would include food-safe-ness in the criteria for
functionality. Of course then you do get into the whole what if it's a casserole
& someone uses it as a vase issue. And I'm not gonna go there :-)

Simona in Colorado

John Hesselberth on sat 24 apr 04


On Friday, April 23, 2004, at 06:59 PM, Gene and Dolita Dohrman wrote:

> What is the difference 'functionally' between functional and food
> safe

Hi Dolita,

I'll just make a short comment that I think is additive to what others
have said. When a glaze manufacturer uses the term 'food safe' they
more than likely just mean that either 1) it contains no lead or
cadmium or 2) the lead and cadmium will meet the release limits
specified by FDA regulations. Unfortunately, for most glaze
manufacturers, they do not mean that the glaze is stable and will not
fall apart in use. Most of the ones I have talked to don't even test
for that, and I can show you examples of commercial glazes which are
labeled 'food safe' but will not pass the vinegar test.

So, in my view, the term 'food safe' when used by a glaze manufacturer
has little or no meaning for those of us who do not use or buy
lead/cadmium containing glazes in the first place.

Regards,

John
http://www.frogpondpottery.com
http://www.masteringglazes.com

Lee Love on sat 24 apr 04


Gene and Dolita Dohrman wrote:

>Ok-help me here. What is the difference 'functionally' between functional and food safe. I just read the email from Sue Cline. Do I assume that a vase is functional but does not have to be food safe? Is that the gist of it? Stupid question? Yes! (I have nerve, don't I?) Don't want to start up the whole rant again-just give me some examples of what is functional but does not have to be food safe. A ring holder? A vase?
>
You got it Dolita! Here in Japan, "the land of pottery", there is a
huge range of uses of functional pottery, where it is used for things
other than cooking or serving food on. This is why it is important to
teach our customers the correct use of functional ware.


Lee

--
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org