Mildred Herot on thu 25 dec 03
Hi Vince: When you have a son who has accomplished so much you certainly
have every right to brag. Best wishes for the new year.....Mildred Herot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vince Pitelka"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Origins of Raku/Christmas in California
> > They do removed pots and put them in combustables. That is not
> > where the shock to the ware comes from. What they don't do is put the
> > work hot into water. You can do a lot to protect the integrity of the
> > vessel by not quenching it in water.
>
> To my knowledge, traditional Japanese raku was not placed in combustibles
> after being removed from the kiln. Now it seems that the evolution of raku
> has gone full circle, and some Japanese raku artists have now incorporated
> the post-firing smoking in combustible materials that is characteristic of
> American raku.
>
> > I thought it developed in China? With the highfire black Seto
> > bowls, it is thought that they were originally pulled simply as glaze
> tests.
> > Some tea master probably came by and saw one on the shard pile and said,
> > "Hey, this is pretty good! Can you make me chawan like this?"
>
> I have never heard of any specific Chinese origins for the raku process,
but
> I will ask my son Morgan. Please forgive me for bragging about him, but I
> can't help it. He teaches East Asian Studies at Occidental College in LA,
> and his doctoral thesis from Princeton was on the medieval origins of Raku
> in Japan. He recently finished re-writing his thesis as a book, and it is
> being reviewed by publishers right now. Morgan spent three years doing
> primary-source research for his doctorate in Japan, and he is one of the
> first westerners to ever be given complete access to the Raku family's
> documents and collections. There is a lot of misinformation and hype
> surrounding the origins of Raku, and even the Raku family agrees with
that,
> and wants it cleared up. So they were very supportive.
>
> For anyone seriously interested in the tea ceremony, Morgan's first book,
"
> Japanese Tea Culture: Art, History and Practice" was recently published
and
> is available through amazon.com and other sources.
>
> I am out in LA right now, and spent a delightful Christmas morning with
> Morgan and Brenda and my two grandsons, Ravi (2 1/2) and Luca (13 months).
> The kids were amazingly well behaved through the stockings and presents,
but
> Luca is too young to be very competitive. It has been cold and raining
all
> morning, and actually feels like Christmas, despite being in LA.
>
> Okay, I'm done bragging now.
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Craft
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
> Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
> 615/597-5376
> Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> 615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
> http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
>
>
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Lee Love on fri 26 dec 03
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vince Pitelka"
>
> To my knowledge, traditional Japanese raku was not placed in combustibles
> after being removed from the kiln.
I think you are right.
> I have never heard of any specific Chinese origins for the raku process,
but
> I will ask my son Morgan. Please forgive me for bragging about him, but I
> can't help it.
Please ask. Here is the information I came across:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The making of Raku ware was initiated by Chojiro, the first generation of
the Raku family, during the Momoyama period (1573-1615). At this time
three-coloured glazed pottery (san cai) based on technology from the Fujian
region of China was produced in and around Kyoto. Chojiro is thought to have
been familiar with such techniques. A written record confirms that Ameya,
Chojiro's father, originally from China, is thought to have been the person
who introduced the techniques of three-coloured glazed pottery from China,
although none of his works has survived to prove this.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So, raku didn't come from China but the technology that made it possible
did.
This is a photo of a cool teabowl:
http://www.glendale.edu/ceramics/gif%20resource%20file/mountfuji1132.jpg
Lee In Mashiko
piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET on fri 26 dec 03
Hey Vince
The posting date for this message is March 29 2004
How did I get here?
Did I file my taxes yet?
Who has been making the mortage payments?
Scarry stuff...
Rick
--
"Many a wiser men than I hath
gone to pot." 1649
> > They do removed pots and put them in combustables. That is not
> > where the shock to the ware comes from. What they don't do is put the
> > work hot into water. You can do a lot to protect the integrity of the
> > vessel by not quenching it in water.
>
> To my knowledge, traditional Japanese raku was not placed in combustibles
> after being removed from the kiln. Now it seems that the evolution of raku
> has gone full circle, and some Japanese raku artists have now incorporated
> the post-firing smoking in combustible materials that is characteristic of
> American raku.
>
> > I thought it developed in China? With the highfire black Seto
> > bowls, it is thought that they were originally pulled simply as glaze
> tests.
> > Some tea master probably came by and saw one on the shard pile and said,
> > "Hey, this is pretty good! Can you make me chawan like this?"
>
> I have never heard of any specific Chinese origins for the raku process, but
> I will ask my son Morgan. Please forgive me for bragging about him, but I
> can't help it. He teaches East Asian Studies at Occidental College in LA,
> and his doctoral thesis from Princeton was on the medieval origins of Raku
> in Japan. He recently finished re-writing his thesis as a book, and it is
> being reviewed by publishers right now. Morgan spent three years doing
> primary-source research for his doctorate in Japan, and he is one of the
> first westerners to ever be given complete access to the Raku family's
> documents and collections. There is a lot of misinformation and hype
> surrounding the origins of Raku, and even the Raku family agrees with that,
> and wants it cleared up. So they were very supportive.
>
> For anyone seriously interested in the tea ceremony, Morgan's first book, "
> Japanese Tea Culture: Art, History and Practice" was recently published and
> is available through amazon.com and other sources.
>
> I am out in LA right now, and spent a delightful Christmas morning with
> Morgan and Brenda and my two grandsons, Ravi (2 1/2) and Luca (13 months).
> The kids were amazingly well behaved through the stockings and presents, but
> Luca is too young to be very competitive. It has been cold and raining all
> morning, and actually feels like Christmas, despite being in LA.
>
> Okay, I'm done bragging now.
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Craft
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
> Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
> 615/597-5376
> Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> 615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
> http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
Vince Pitelka on fri 26 dec 03
> They do removed pots and put them in combustables. That is not
> where the shock to the ware comes from. What they don't do is put the
> work hot into water. You can do a lot to protect the integrity of the
> vessel by not quenching it in water.
To my knowledge, traditional Japanese raku was not placed in combustibles
after being removed from the kiln. Now it seems that the evolution of raku
has gone full circle, and some Japanese raku artists have now incorporated
the post-firing smoking in combustible materials that is characteristic of
American raku.
> I thought it developed in China? With the highfire black Seto
> bowls, it is thought that they were originally pulled simply as glaze
tests.
> Some tea master probably came by and saw one on the shard pile and said,
> "Hey, this is pretty good! Can you make me chawan like this?"
I have never heard of any specific Chinese origins for the raku process, but
I will ask my son Morgan. Please forgive me for bragging about him, but I
can't help it. He teaches East Asian Studies at Occidental College in LA,
and his doctoral thesis from Princeton was on the medieval origins of Raku
in Japan. He recently finished re-writing his thesis as a book, and it is
being reviewed by publishers right now. Morgan spent three years doing
primary-source research for his doctorate in Japan, and he is one of the
first westerners to ever be given complete access to the Raku family's
documents and collections. There is a lot of misinformation and hype
surrounding the origins of Raku, and even the Raku family agrees with that,
and wants it cleared up. So they were very supportive.
For anyone seriously interested in the tea ceremony, Morgan's first book, "
Japanese Tea Culture: Art, History and Practice" was recently published and
is available through amazon.com and other sources.
I am out in LA right now, and spent a delightful Christmas morning with
Morgan and Brenda and my two grandsons, Ravi (2 1/2) and Luca (13 months).
The kids were amazingly well behaved through the stockings and presents, but
Luca is too young to be very competitive. It has been cold and raining all
morning, and actually feels like Christmas, despite being in LA.
Okay, I'm done bragging now.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Vince Pitelka on fri 26 dec 03
> The posting date for this message is March 29 2004
> How did I get here?
> Did I file my taxes yet?
> Who has been making the mortage payments?
> Scarry stuff...
Rick -
Thanks for noticing that. But I have brought you back to the present. My
wife was working on her syllabi on my computer, and she checked a date in
2004, and then hit "OK" instead of just exiting the window, so it applied
the new date. Ooops!
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
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