Butch Welch on tue 16 dec 03
I have read where some potters wet the bisque ware before glazing. Some
people descript wetting the pot by sponging water on. I have also read about
other potters who quickly dip the pot in water prior to glazing. My
question is primarily about experiences with cone 6 clay. What are the
techniques for applying water to the bisque with a sponge to maintain even
absorption on the pot. I am assuming that uneven application of water will
cause uneven glaze application. I would also like to know if any one uses
the quick dip in clean water technique.
Regards, Butch
"A hint to the wise is sufficient"
Darnie Sizemore on wed 17 dec 03
Butch,
I have found that sponging the water on is quite tedious. I will either run the entire pot under a faucet or dip into a bucket of water. This allows even amounts of water to be applied and allows more time for glaze application.
Happy watering,
Darnie
Butch Welch wrote:
I have read where some potters wet the bisque ware before glazing. Some
people descript wetting the pot by sponging water on. I have also read about
other potters who quickly dip the pot in water prior to glazing. My
question is primarily about experiences with cone 6 clay. What are the
techniques for applying water to the bisque with a sponge to maintain even
absorption on the pot. I am assuming that uneven application of water will
cause uneven glaze application. I would also like to know if any one uses
the quick dip in clean water technique.
Regards, Butch
"A hint to the wise is sufficient"
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Carol Tripp on wed 17 dec 03
Hi Butch,
Bisque ware needs to be clean before glazing. Dust left on the pot can
cause crawling. One way to clean the pots is to use a barely wet sponge to
wipe off the dirt. I used to do this and ended up spending lots of time and
creating a sponge bit mess on the floor as the sponge wore. (I use cheap
sponges.) Clayart came to the rescue with two methods; either dip each pot
in a bucket of water or run water over each pot. The bucket method is less
wasteful. I rub the insides of some pots with my fingers while dipping
because my bisque tends to be very sandy from the dirty air here in the
desert. I do this the night before glazing. Some people do the dipping
shortly before they glaze. It is something you have to experiment with and
find out what is best in your own situation.
Best regards,
Carol
Dubai, UAE
Where we are off the the airport to pick up my mother who is visiting for
Xmas. Hooray. (She's bringing me alphabet noodles and a turkey baster for
christmas; stuff for the studio.)
Butch wrote:
>I have read where some potters wet the bisque ware before glazing. Some
>people descript wetting the pot by sponging water on. I have also read
>about
>other potters who quickly dip the pot in water prior to glazing. My
>question is primarily about experiences with cone 6 clay. What are the
>techniques for applying water to the bisque with a sponge to maintain even
>absorption on the pot. I am assuming that uneven application of water will
>cause uneven glaze application. I would also like to know if any one uses
>the quick dip in clean water technique.
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Llewellyn Kouba on thu 18 dec 03
Carol,
I have never sponged my work at all. I just take them work to the spray
booth and sand any small imperfections, give them a last scrutinium and
then air hose air compressor them off and they are ready for the bisque
kiln. Same for the bisque to glaze - just air them clean and go ahead and
dip or spray the glaze. Save lots of time.
Llewellyn Kouba
At 03:42 PM 12/17/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Butch,
>Bisque ware needs to be clean before glazing. Dust left on the pot can
>cause crawling. One way to clean the pots is to use a barely wet sponge to
>wipe off the dirt. I used to do this and ended up spending lots of time and
>creating a sponge bit mess on the floor as the sponge wore. (I use cheap
>sponges.) Clayart came to the rescue with two methods; either dip each pot
>in a bucket of water or run water over each pot. The bucket method is less
>wasteful. I rub the insides of some pots with my fingers while dipping
>because my bisque tends to be very sandy from the dirty air here in the
>desert. I do this the night before glazing. Some people do the dipping
>shortly before they glaze. It is something you have to experiment with and
>find out what is best in your own situation.
>Best regards,
>Carol
>Dubai, UAE
>Where we are off the the airport to pick up my mother who is visiting for
>Xmas. Hooray. (She's bringing me alphabet noodles and a turkey baster for
>christmas; stuff for the studio.)
>
>
>Butch wrote:
>>I have read where some potters wet the bisque ware before glazing. Some
>>people descript wetting the pot by sponging water on. I have also read
>>about
>>other potters who quickly dip the pot in water prior to glazing. My
>>question is primarily about experiences with cone 6 clay. What are the
>>techniques for applying water to the bisque with a sponge to maintain even
>>absorption on the pot. I am assuming that uneven application of water will
>>cause uneven glaze application. I would also like to know if any one uses
>>the quick dip in clean water technique.
>
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David Hewitt on fri 19 dec 03
Butch,
In normal circumstances there is no need whatsoever to sponge or wet the
surface before glazing. In my opinion it is also liable to create
problems of its own in making the glaze take up variable and hence
results are variable. It also takes up time. Try glazing without
sponging.
What I do check for before glazing is for any rough edges, of small
pieces that may have stuck on at the leather hard stage and emery these
off. You may think that this creates dust which will give trouble with
the glaze take up. I have never found such a problem resulting from my
use of rubbing down with emery where necessary.
If items have been left for a long time it is not difficult to feel with
your finger to see if it picks up any dust.
David
In message , Butch Welch writes
>I have read where some potters wet the bisque ware before glazing. Some
>people descript wetting the pot by sponging water on. I have also read about
>other potters who quickly dip the pot in water prior to glazing. My
>question is primarily about experiences with cone 6 clay. What are the
>techniques for applying water to the bisque with a sponge to maintain even
>absorption on the pot. I am assuming that uneven application of water will
>cause uneven glaze application. I would also like to know if any one uses
>the quick dip in clean water technique.
>
>Regards, Butch
>"A hint to the wise is sufficient"
--
David Hewitt
David Hewitt Pottery
South Wales UK
Web:- http://www.dhpot.demon.co.uk
John Rodgers on sun 21 dec 03
I never sponge or wash my pots.
There is always dust after bisque firing, and just before glazing I give
the pots a blast of air to blow off the dust. Then I dip the pots. The
one thing I do that doesn't seem to ever get much mention is to adjust
the density of the glaze so it is consistent from one glaze session to
the next. Each glaze has a "best density" for it's application for the
finish I am trying to acheive, so maintenance of that density is crucial
from my point of view. It also takes the guesswork out of things. The
more the variables can be eliminated from process, the more consistent
the finished work. So adjusting that density on a given glaze to be the
same everytime I do glazing is just one more step in the march towards
perfection ....... not that I will ever get there. It's just the goal I
aspire to.
The time the pot is immersed in the glaze is another factor. I try to
be consistent. I know the particular clay, the density of the glaze for
that particular clay, and the time required during immersion to get the
right thickness of glaze to deposit on the surface. All this comes with
experience with the particular materials. Change any one ingredient, and
all the numbers change. Consistency, consistency, consistency .....
makes for good pots every time.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Butch Welch wrote:
>I have read where some potters wet the bisque ware before glazing. Some
>people descript wetting the pot by sponging water on. I have also read about
>other potters who quickly dip the pot in water prior to glazing. My
>question is primarily about experiences with cone 6 clay. What are the
>techniques for applying water to the bisque with a sponge to maintain even
>absorption on the pot. I am assuming that uneven application of water will
>cause uneven glaze application. I would also like to know if any one uses
>the quick dip in clean water technique.
>
>Regards, Butch
>"A hint to the wise is sufficient"
>
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