Ababi on thu 20 nov 03
HI!
I was asked several times. Can paperclay be used without firing at all?
I mean places that cannot fire. Like old people clubs =96 can they
preserve some how the raw paperclay?
Thank you my good community
Ababi Sharon
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masta@UMICH.EDU on fri 21 nov 03
My wife took a doll-making class and they made the
heads out of something they called paperclay,
from the American Paperclay Company (I think).
Since I've never used paperclay in pottery, I'm
not sure how this differs. They don't fire the
doll heads, just dry and paint (acrylics, I think).
I put a lump of this stuff into a bisque firing and
it came out very light, and even softer than before;
you can carve it easily with a thumbnail. So
maybe they use more paper in this blend than
for pottery purposes. Whatever, they use it for
similar reasons, since they can attach things
even after it's dry.
Hope this helps!
Robert Masta
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Bonita Cohn on fri 21 nov 03
Here's a topic to discuss amongt yourselves:
papier mache.
This is the old classic art class method. Melt down
newspaper in water, mix in some wallpaper paste, and
use it as an inexpensive material for making large
puppets and things (from some very distant grade
school memories.) I'm sure some of the teachers on the
list can elaborate.
Good luck!
Bonita in San Francisco
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Snail Scott on fri 21 nov 03
At 09:04 PM 11/20/03 +0200, Ababi wrote:
>...Can paperclay be used without firing at all?
Ceramic paperclay is certainly more durable unfired
than 'paperless clay', and might hold up a little
while for some purposes, especially if painted, but
most commercial paperclay mixes have less paper than
I would prefer for unfired strength. Why not try a
papier-mache-type substance instead?
Someone told me yesterday about a Crayola product
called 'PaperClay'. I don't know if it's actually
clay, or just a papier-mache product. It's sold in
hobby/craft shops like Michael's. It sounds like
it would be great for forming stuff without firing.
I agree that we shouldn't get too attached to fired
clay as the only appropriate medium, when a situation
might be best served with another material.
-Snail
Ababi on sat 22 nov 03
Thank you Snail I thought so too.
They are looking for material to use unfired. I do not like to think
about paperclay as such because who know if the insects and the mice ETC
might like to eat the dried paperclay
Ababi Sharon
Glaze addict
Kibbutz Shoval Israel
ababisha@shoval.org.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910
http://www.matrix2000.co.nz/Matrix%20Demo/Ababi.htm
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Snail Scott
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:10 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Can paperclay be used without firing at all?
At 09:04 PM 11/20/03 +0200, Ababi wrote:
>...Can paperclay be used without firing at all?
Ceramic paperclay is certainly more durable unfired
than 'paperless clay', and might hold up a little
while for some purposes, especially if painted, but
most commercial paperclay mixes have less paper than
I would prefer for unfired strength. Why not try a
papier-mache-type substance instead?
Someone told me yesterday about a Crayola product
called 'PaperClay'. I don't know if it's actually
clay, or just a papier-mache product. It's sold in
hobby/craft shops like Michael's. It sounds like
it would be great for forming stuff without firing.
I agree that we shouldn't get too attached to fired
clay as the only appropriate medium, when a situation
might be best served with another material.
-Snail
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Ababi on sat 22 nov 03
Yes I saw their site it is a clay less material
Ababi Sharon
Glaze addict
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:49 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Can paperclay be used without firing at all?
My wife took a doll-making class and they made the
heads out of something they called paperclay,
from the American Paperclay Company (I think).
Since I've never used paperclay in pottery, I'm
not sure how this differs. They don't fire the
doll heads, just dry and paint (acrylics, I think).
I put a lump of this stuff into a bisque firing and
it came out very light, and even softer than before;
you can carve it easily with a thumbnail. So
maybe they use more paper in this blend than
for pottery purposes. Whatever, they use it for
similar reasons, since they can attach things
even after it's dry.
Hope this helps!
Robert Masta
dqatech@daqarta.com
D A Q A R T A
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
Shareware from Interstellar Research
www.daqarta.com
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Marta Matray Gloviczki on sun 23 nov 03
Ababi wrote:
>I was asked several times. Can paperclay be used without firing at all?
>I mean places that cannot fire. Like old people clubs =96 can they
>preserve somehow the raw paperclay?
>Thank you my good community
ababi,
i went to a craft store today and found that clay,
SCULPEY, which can be baked in a kitchen oven at 130=B0C --that`s 275=B0F--
for 15 minutes.
its a very soft white clay-like thing, doesnt need water, you dont have to
wash your hands after working with it, it can be reformed 100 times, its
pliable, no dust, doesnt dry out until you bake it. after baking you can
paint it... if you want to...
its expensive, 8 lbs (3.6 kg) is 40 dollars at michaels. (that`s a chain
craft shop in the states)
more info on this "thingy": www.sculpey.com
i can imagine the use of it in a nursing home, or school, kindergarten,
old people club,etc... situations, where there is no possibility to fire.
but since it`s pretty expensive i would let them make only tiny little
things, jewelry type, or little animal forms or buttons and pins.
or whatever, but miniature!
i bought it, ababi, just so i can report it back to you.
and i have to tell you, the little sucker is in my hands right now while
i am sitting at the keyboard... its perfect to make little models! yeah...
i just made a tiny teapot, less than 2 inches tall ( that`s less than 5
cm) and i still dont have to spray it after i played with it for awhile,
doesnt need covering w/ plastic, and my hands are clean.
i never used modeling clay,but i can imagine that this is something like
that. hm... its fun, i like it.
cheers, marta
marta matray gloviczki
rochester,mn
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Lois Ruben Aronow on mon 24 nov 03
A little background about Sculpey -=20
Sculpey, also known as Polymer clay, is the material of choice for
many jewelry and bead makers. There are other brands, such as Fimo,
and each brand has their own characteristics in workability and color.
At the Philadelphia show, there was one woman who made the most
amazing polymer clay purses. Ford & Forlano (www.fordforlano.com) are
quite famous in this field. Their craftsmanship is unsurpassed. At
Philadelphia, they were showing some new wall sculptures as well as
their jewelry. I didn't even know about polymers until this show, and
I have been on a hunt to find out more. All of the work was as
intricate and highly crafted - in many cases, more so, as those done
in "regular" clay. Check out
http://www.polymerclaycentral.com/kato_feather1.html for a
demonstration on making feathers. =20
I have become interested in polymers, as it can fill my clay obsession
outside the studio, and yes, it's fun to do with the kids. Also be
aware that it is NOT food safe, and for decorative use only. =20
************
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