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another dry throwing question

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Tony Stewart on sat 1 nov 03


I have been reading the posts on dry thowing, but I think I have missed
something. How can centering be accomplished without water? Or do you
center, spounge off the water then start the dry method of throwing?

Susan Setley on sat 1 nov 03


In a message dated 11/1/03 9:42:51 AM, tony@MOSSMAN-GUITARS.COM writes:

<< I have been reading the posts on dry thowing, but I think I have missed
something. How can centering be accomplished without water? Or do you
center, spounge off the water then start the dry method of throwing? >>

I don't use much water when centering.

I don't throw "dry," but I do use slip when I can.

Marianne Lombardo on sat 1 nov 03


Tony,

You center and open the clay using a minimal amount of water, then
sponge/scrape the extra water off, dry your hands and continue from there.

Marianne Lombardo
Omemee, Ontario, Canada

> I have been reading the posts on dry thowing, but I think I have missed
> something. How can centering be accomplished without water? Or do you
> center, spounge off the water then start the dry method of throwing?

Craig Dunn Clark on sat 1 nov 03


Tony, the throwing without water is accomplished after the mud has been
centered and opened.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Stewart"
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: another Dry Throwing question


> I have been reading the posts on dry thowing, but I think I have missed
> something. How can centering be accomplished without water? Or do you
> center, spounge off the water then start the dry method of throwing?
>
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Tony Ferguson on sat 1 nov 03


One trick to throwing dry is to start with water and then don't use any--you
will actually make surface slip during the process. It will depend on your
form, if it requires a little refresher of water on its way "up". A lot
depends also on the clay body you are using. I find with porcelain that I
have to use as little water as possible--and I can get away with it as it
doesn't eat my hands like my heavily grogged stoneware body.

The other trick I learned while living in Korea is to only use slip in your
bucket--such as accumlated from throwing. If you don't have any, take your
clay body and slake it down in your ice-cream bucket and use that. Yes, it
will get stinky. Throwing with slip is better in many ways then throwing
with water. Give it some time if it doesn't work right away for you--you
will find you can do wonderous things by using slip.

A suggestion I would have is whatever you are throwing--scrape the slip off
the bottom (supporting) section of let's say your cyclinder. Water (even in
slip form) weakens clay--slip just weakens it less. Scrap the slip off and
continue throwing. Try even a small fan aimed on the base of whatever you
are throwing--it will do wonders depending on the humidity of your studio.


Thank you.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Dunn Clark"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: another Dry Throwing question


> Tony, the throwing without water is accomplished after the mud has been
> centered and opened.
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 st
> Houston, Texas
> (713)861-2083
> mudman@hal-pc.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Stewart"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 9:32 AM
> Subject: another Dry Throwing question
>
>
> > I have been reading the posts on dry thowing, but I think I have missed
> > something. How can centering be accomplished without water? Or do you
> > center, spounge off the water then start the dry method of throwing?
> >
> >
>
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Lee Love on sun 2 nov 03


Slow wheel speed is another secret of "drier" throwing. If you throw
slow, there is less need of lubrication.

I found this true on my Shimpo throwing heavily grogged raku clay: if
you spin it fast, your hands get "burnt" by the friction.

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Lee In Mashiko, Japan
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