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Imbolchottie@AOL.COM on wed 15 oct 03


This sounds like a stoopid question (to me) but I have about 60 vases lined
up and ready to roll but I am at a loss -- what color are vases?

These are memorial vases, so to speak. My first thought was white for
mourning -- plus white doesn't compete with the flower arrangement, only contrasts
it. But 60 white vases are probably pretty boring.

I don't want "That Green matches the curtains." or "The Blue that matches the
sofa.' I know some folks pooh-pooh brown, but there are interesting
combinations of brown, and affects that work for me. Black vases? Only if a perfect
glaze without a blemish is a sure thing. Bone?

I will have one large vat of glaze to start with (human ash being used as
part of the flux) then I thought would add color oxides as I progress. Start
with 10 in clear. Maybe pour part off to make 10 white with zircopax. Then big
batch from rutile (another 10 vases) then add copper to the rutile (another 10
vase) then add cobalt to the rutile and copper.

I don't know, I'm lost.

Jonathan in LA
Ps
Wayne in Key West - are you DAFT? Me and chopsticks and a single grain of
rice?
whoa, talent I have but I don't think I have that kind of talent.
I am a barbarian, euro - mutt!!

wayneinkeywest on wed 15 oct 03


AM I daft? When have I not been :>)
Try it! You'll find it improves your dexterity for
a lot of things (which I won't get into here )
After about half an hour, you'll be picking them up two at a time
side by side!
But I digress...

I had the honor of making the urns for my parents.
For my father, the metalworker ,I chose a gloss battleship gray crackle
rakued so that the cracks went deep black in cypress reduction.
For my mom, the flower lover, I went with a gloss white crackle,
again raku, heavy black cypress reduction in the cracks, both urns
unglazed inside, deep black.

You might want to consider a light and dark grey to offset the white.

Wayne in Key West
daft, but not distraught :>)


> This sounds like a stoopid question (to me) but I have about 60 vases
lined
> up and ready to roll but I am at a loss -- what color are vases?
>
> These are memorial vases, so to speak. My first thought was white for
> mourning -- plus white doesn't compete with the flower arrangement, only
contrasts
> it. But 60 white vases are probably pretty boring.
>
> I don't want "That Green matches the curtains." or "The Blue that matches
the
> sofa.' I know some folks pooh-pooh brown, but there are interesting
> combinations of brown, and affects that work for me. Black vases? Only
if a perfect
> glaze without a blemish is a sure thing. Bone?
>
> I will have one large vat of glaze to start with (human ash being used as
> part of the flux) then I thought would add color oxides as I progress.
Start
> with 10 in clear. Maybe pour part off to make 10 white with zircopax.
Then big
> batch from rutile (another 10 vases) then add copper to the rutile
(another 10
> vase) then add cobalt to the rutile and copper.
>
> I don't know, I'm lost.
>
> Jonathan in LA
> Ps
> Wayne in Key West - are you DAFT? Me and chopsticks and a single grain of
> rice?
> whoa, talent I have but I don't think I have that kind of talent.
> I am a barbarian, euro - mutt!!
>
>
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Earl Krueger on wed 15 oct 03


On October 15, 2003, Imbolchottie@AOL.COM wrote:

> I have about 60 vases lined
> up and ready to roll but I am at a loss -- what color are vases?

Jonathon,

What did your friend like? Nature? Art Deco? Sunsets?
Walk on the beach? Parties?

Perhaps a few quick brush strokes or spray patterns of
subtle or bold color could give these vases a little of
the personality of your friend.

Earl...
Bothell, WA

Kathie Wheater on wed 15 oct 03


>These are memorial vases, so to speak. My first thought was white for
>mourning -- plus white doesn't compete with the flower arrangement, only contrasts
>it. But 60 white vases are probably pretty boring.

I disagree in that a large grouping of similar but not same shapes in the same color puts the focus on the form. That's the beauty of white...pure but the essence of all colors. Black is the absence of all color.


>I don't want "That Green matches the curtains." or "The Blue that matches the
>sofa.' I know some folks pooh-pooh brown, but there are interesting
>combinations of brown, and affects that work for me. Black vases? Only if a perfect
>glaze without a blemish is a sure thing. Bone?
>I will have one large vat of glaze to start with (human ash being used as
>part of the flux) then I thought would add color oxides as I progress. Start
>with 10 in clear. Maybe pour part off to make 10 white with zircopax. Then big
>batch from rutile (another 10 vases) then add copper to the rutile (another 10
>vase) then add cobalt to the rutile and copper.
>I don't know, I'm lost.
>Jonathan in LA

I use yogurt containers (we eat alot of that stuff here) for this kind of thing. personally I would keep it VERY simple. Try a gradient in rutile w/ titanium ox. Dependent on your glaze forumla it will go pale gold to warm brown. Copper can be a rather garish bluey/green. You must not waste a good friend. A landfill is no place you want to have them end up. I had a bit of my mother's ash in a locket. Wyatt got hold of it and ran around the house dumping her everywhere. Now when I empty the vacuum bag it has to be placed on the ground by the river. I don't want her in the landfill. Not even a molecule. Mark Burleson's, Ceramic Glaze Handbook gives some nice examples, however check to see what the ^6 base glaze has in it. Zinc and calcium can effect the outcome of the colors. I think your pretty safe with rutile or cobalt. Don't forget to make a small amulet to keep by your heart.


>Wayne in Key West - are you DAFT? Me and chopsticks and a single grain of
>rice?whoa, talent I have but I don't think I have that kind of talent.
>I am a barbarian, euro - mutt!!


Well then you're a perfect fit for the Viking raiding party! Just watch out for the women and Mel's pocket knife.

BIG hug. I wish you success,

KathieW

Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 15 oct 03


Mine tend to be cerulean blue and chartreuse, but that's just me. And
yes, they sell. I also sell a lot of black/white with red insides.
At a show recently, a friend put cymbideum orchids in one of my
blue/purple vases at his booth. They looked awesome. (the flowers
that is).

I guess what I'm getting at here is find your palette - which colors
work best with your forms, and which colors you most prefer to use.
Don't worry about finding colors to go with someone's sofa - everyone
has a different color sofa.

White is always classic, and will show off a delightful form well. I
kow of one potter who only glazes the insides, and uses a rutile wash
on the outside. The effect is quite striking.

Maybe you could use these 60 vases as a starting point to finding
"your" work, "your" colors.=20

>I will have one large vat of glaze to start with (human ash being used =
as
>part of the flux) then I thought would add color oxides as I progress. =
Start
>with 10 in clear. Maybe pour part off to make 10 white with zircopax. =
Then big
>batch from rutile (another 10 vases) then add copper to the rutile =
(another 10
>vase) then add cobalt to the rutile and copper.

You could also start with your base and add stain - start with 2%,
then 4, and so one. You'll see a nice color progression as the amount
of stain increases in the base. It could make for a lovely grouping.

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Lois Ruben Aronow

www.loisaronow.com
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