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Dinah Collopy on sun 28 sep 03


For the past 12 years I've been, intermittantly, trying to come up with a=
particular glaze that I've had no success with and decided I'd throw it =
out to Clayart and see if anyone out there has any ideas.
Newcomb Pottery was made at Newcomb College in New Orleans, LA. It was in=
existance for about 50 years and during that time there were several per=
iods where glazes changed. The one I'm trying to come close to was mat an=
d only two colors were used--a gray blue and gray green.
Ron and John's high calcium blue would work but I don't know how to "gray=
" the blue. Any suggestions on graying a color?
The best thing about the glazes were they looked like you were seeing the=
m through a fog.
Each piece was individually thrown by a man (mostly Joseph Meyers) and th=
e girls came up with the designs and carved them on to the pots. The clay=
body was high in silica and the pieces were fired to cone 5 in an oil kil=
n. I'm not sure if this helped give it that foggy look.
The designs were varied but cypress and live oak trees with hanging moss =
were most popular. Imagine looking through a Louisiana swamp on a misty e=
vening and that's what I'm looking for.
I've read everything I could find on this pottery. I even took a class at=
Az. St. Uni. in glaze making and spent the whole semester working on it.=
Couldn't get it.
Thanks for any ideas.
Dinah

Ababi on mon 29 sep 03


The glaze addict does not understand you exactly
If you will send me the recipes I might be able to help. I have the
"license" I have their book!
Or you are looking for something else foggy blue mate?

Ababi Sharon
Glaze addict
Kibbutz Shoval Israel
ababisha@shoval.org.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910
http://www.matrix2000.co.nz/Matrix%20Demo/Ababi.htm



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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Dinah
Collopy
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 12:13 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Glaze help,gurus,addicts,everyone

For the past 12 years I've been, intermittantly, trying to come up with
a particular glaze that I've had no success with and decided I'd throw
it out to Clayart and see if anyone out there has any ideas.
Newcomb Pottery was made at Newcomb College in New Orleans, LA. It was
in existance for about 50 years and during that time there were several
periods where glazes changed. The one I'm trying to come close to was
mat and only two colors were used--a gray blue and gray green.
Ron and John's high calcium blue would work but I don't know how to
"gray" the blue. Any suggestions on graying a color?
The best thing about the glazes were they looked like you were seeing
them through a fog.
Each piece was individually thrown by a man (mostly Joseph Meyers) and
the girls came up with the designs and carved them on to the pots. The
claybody was high in silica and the pieces were fired to cone 5 in an
oil kiln. I'm not sure if this helped give it that foggy look.
The designs were varied but cypress and live oak trees with hanging moss
were most popular. Imagine looking through a Louisiana swamp on a misty
evening and that's what I'm looking for.
I've read everything I could find on this pottery. I even took a class
at Az. St. Uni. in glaze making and spent the whole semester working on
it. Couldn't get it.
Thanks for any ideas.
Dinah

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Earl Krueger on mon 29 sep 03


on 9/28/03, Dinah Collopy wrote:

The one I'm trying to come close to was
mat and only two colors were used--a
gray blue and gray green. Ron and
John's high calcium blue would work but
I don't know how to "gray" the blue.

The best thing about the glazes were
they looked like you were seeing them
through a fog.


My reading of Dinah's request seems to be a little
different than what other people seem to be
reading. The second paragraph (above) makes
me think of a blue or green undercolor with a
translucent layer of clear glaze over top. Something
like looking through a frosted glass shower door at
a colored towel.

Would an underglaze with a mat overglaze that
was cooled slowly enough to allow plenty of crystal
growth give this effect? ( See, John and Ron, I
read your book. )

The shower door look sounds like it could be pretty
cool, especially with the right design work underneath.

Trying to think...

Earl...
Bothell, WA

Paul Lewing on mon 29 sep 03


on 9/28/03 2:12 PM, Dinah Collopy at dinahcollopyclay@MSN.COM wrote:

> Ron and John's high calcium blue would work but I don't know how to "gray=
> " the blue. Any suggestions on graying a color?

Dinah, I have two suggestions. Three actually, if you don't count just
adding a grey stain. One would be to add nickel oxide, the other to add
iron chromate. The iron chromate will make a greenish grey on its own. Not
sure what shade of blue/grey/green you would get with it plus cobalt, but
I'm sure some shade of blue grey would be possible with some combination of
the two.
Paul Lewing, Seattle