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hobbyists/taxes? now cargo van rental

updated fri 19 sep 03

 

Lois Ruben Aronow on tue 16 sep 03


Be thankful you live in Las Vegas and not NY.

Ryder wants $400 for the week, and .79 a mile. I need to go about 300
miles round trip. Yikes! And that's cheap - UHaul wants $1.99 a
mile.

The odd thing is, Ryder will rent me the damn van for 29.99 a day.
That is 209.93 for 7 days. BUT - they want $400 for the week. Makes
no sense. Unfortunately, I really need to rent the van, so I'll
continue shopping around, but the prospects don't look good.

>I got stung on that one time...the Cargo Van was like
>$225.00 for a Week, but unbeknownst to me untill I returned
>it, the miliage ( 875 miles in my case) was like 32 cents a
>mile. So mot such a good deal afterall !





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Susan Setley on tue 16 sep 03


In a message dated 9/16/03 6:48:18 AM, gilois@BELLATLANTIC.NET writes:

<< The odd thing is, Ryder will rent me the damn van for 29.99 a day.
That is 209.93 for 7 days. BUT - they want $400 for the week. Makes
no sense. Unfortunately, I really need to rent the van, so I'll
continue shopping around, but the prospects don't look good.
>>


It makes sense to Ryder. :/

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 16 sep 03


Hi Lois,


Hell, if you lived here, you could borrow mine...!

I went and bought one just this last July, the first modern
vehicle I ever owned - a 1986 Chevy Van...not the super long
wheelbase, but enough room inside to get a Model "A"
Roadster body in there if I wanted to. Or a huge amounbt of
whatever stuff I want to put in there. I pulled the rear
seats and tossed 'em, so now it is in effect, something of a
Cargo Van. It had belonged to a neighbor, has silly
'windows' along the sides, it's Charm-School looks like
something you'd see parked on the side streets of say 'San
Pedro' or maybe 'Watts' in Sounthern California, was $1,100
and (knock on wood) has been a sweeite...has splotches of
gray primer here and there...has the '350-350' and could use
some better Tires.

Really, even though I bought it on a serendipity of urban
fantasy decedance-cameoflague and some respects for needed
logistics, I did not shop around at all. I do think one
might look around a little, and for a 1,000 Dollars more or
less, find an entirely reliable, honest, slightly seedy,
'seventies or mid 'eighties 'Van' as would be a good
workhorse. Put a little TLC into it, and...for what it would
have cost to rent one three times, you own one.

There are plenty of them out there.


My situation, is that sometimes I have to haul things
(things I have made, things I am to work on for someone,
schlep my Both contents to the 'n.c.e.c.a.', whatever) as I
would like not to have out in the open in a Pick-Up
Truck...or, I have to haul things as across several states.
The Van is a good method.

Same with you I gather!

Anyway...

Start checking those Want Ads maybe...find a nice private
party Van with lo-miliage, as would fit the bill...and, tell
them rental places they can just go choke on a bone.


Best wishes!

Good luck!


Phil
Las Vegas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lois Ruben Aronow"

Be thankful you live in Las Vegas and not NY.

Ryder wants $400 for the week, and .79 a mile. I need to go
about 300
miles round trip. Yikes! And that's cheap - UHaul wants
$1.99 a
mile.

The odd thing is, Ryder will rent me the damn van for 29.99
a day.
That is 209.93 for 7 days. BUT - they want $400 for the
week. Makes
no sense. Unfortunately, I really need to rent the van, so
I'll
continue shopping around, but the prospects don't look good.

>I got stung on that one time...the Cargo Van was like
>$225.00 for a Week, but unbeknownst to me untill I returned
>it, the miliage ( 875 miles in my case) was like 32 cents a
>mile. So mot such a good deal afterall !

Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 17 sep 03


>It is likely that they have found .......... when the Vice President of
>Profits studied the data......... that a truck rented for a single day
>generates more milage charge per day on the average than one rented for =
a
>week. This is because someone who rents the van for two days is likely
>DRIVING that truck those two days. Someone who rents it for a week
> might dive one or two days on either end... and then leave it parked =
for
>the other days. The milage charge really racks up fast.
>
>If someone rents it for a week and actually drives it every day...... =
they
>make out like a bandit .
>
I agree that that is probably correct, BUT - - - what they told me is
that if you rent it for a week, you get the "commercial" rent, as they
assume anyone who needs it that long is likely to be a business or a
mover who needs another truck temporarily. So my ethical dilemma is
do I use them (I need the van 6 days, in which I can get the daily
rate) knowing they actively rip off businesses (who in turn charge the
consumer). OR do I use someone else, who will give me a better weekly
rate but a higher (double) per mile rate (ripping off the consumer up
front).

I do very few shows, and don't travel to the ones I do participate in,
so buying a van is out of the question. Although it might be cheaper
than renting at this rate.




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John Baymore on wed 17 sep 03



The odd thing is, Ryder will rent me the damn van for 29.99 a day.
That is 209.93 for 7 days. BUT - they want $400 for the week. Makes
no sense.


Lois,

It is likely that they have found .......... when the Vice President of
Profits studied the data......... that a truck rented for a single day
generates more milage charge per day on the average than one rented for a=

week. This is because someone who rents the van for two days is likely
DRIVING that truck those two days. Someone who rents it for a week
might dive one or two days on either end... and then leave it parked for=

the other days. The milage charge really racks up fast.

If someone rents it for a week and actually drives it every day...... the=
y
make out like a bandit .


best,

......................john


John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086-5812 USA

JBaymore@compuserve.com
http://www.JohnBaymore.com

603-654-2752 (studio)
800-900-1110 (studio)

John K Dellow on thu 18 sep 03


How about some lateral thinking. If possible rent a vehicle from your
departure locality to go to the next and
them rent a new vehicle for the return trip.
John

Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:

>>It is likely that they have found .......... when the Vice President of
>>Profits studied the data......... that a truck rented for a single day
>>generates more milage charge per day on the average than one rented for a
>>week. This is because someone who rents the van for two days is likely
>>DRIVING that truck those two days. Someone who rents it for a week
>>might dive one or two days on either end... and then leave it parked for
>>the other days. The milage charge really racks up fast.
>>
>>If someone rents it for a week and actually drives it every day...... they
>>make out like a bandit .
>>
>>
>>
>I agree that that is probably correct, BUT - - - what they told me is
>that if you rent it for a week, you get the "commercial" rent, as they
>assume anyone who needs it that long is likely to be a business or a
>mover who needs another truck temporarily. So my ethical dilemma is
>do I use them (I need the van 6 days, in which I can get the daily
>rate) knowing they actively rip off businesses (who in turn charge the
>consumer). OR do I use someone else, who will give me a better weekly
>rate but a higher (double) per mile rate (ripping off the consumer up
>front).
>
>I do very few shows, and don't travel to the ones I do participate in,
>so buying a van is out of the question. Although it might be cheaper
>than renting at this rate.
>
>
>
>
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Earl Brunner on thu 18 sep 03


They usually have you there as well. One way trips usually cost more
than returning to the same site.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of John K
Dellow
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:00 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: hobbyists/taxes? now Cargo Van Rental

How about some lateral thinking. If possible rent a vehicle from your
departure locality to go to the next and
them rent a new vehicle for the return trip.
John

Kenneth D. Westfall on thu 18 sep 03


>Buy a cargo trailer! They are fairly inexpencive, cheep to licence, and
>don't mind sitting most of the year being not used. They also make for
>great temporary storage when not in use for hauling.

Kenneth D. Westfall
Pine Hill Pottery
R.D. #2 Box 6AA
Harrisville, WV 26362
kenneth@pinehillpottery.com
http://www.pinehillpottery.com

Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 18 sep 03


On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:53:48 -0400, you wrote:

>>Buy a cargo trailer! They are fairly inexpencive, cheep to licence, =
and
>>don't mind sitting most of the year being not used. They also make for
>>great temporary storage when not in use for hauling.
>
Except I live in NYC, and have no place for it to sit. Would have to
rent a garage space to store the thing.

I think I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet on this one.




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Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 18 sep 03


On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:00:07 +1000, you wrote:

>How about some lateral thinking. If possible rent a vehicle from your
>departure locality to go to the next and
>them rent a new vehicle for the return trip.
>John
>
Thought of that. There is a surcharge for a one-way rental. Comes
out about the same.




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