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teaching at a guild - salary expectation

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Maid O'Mud on sat 23 aug 03


I need some help please.

The London Potters' Guild established a teaching rate of $18/hr in ~'91. =
This was raised to $20/hr a couple of years back. This paid rate does =
NOT include prep or clean-up time; no gas/milage expenses etc. Simply =
straight hourly wage for the posted class time. That means an 8 week =
class of 3 hours per week (24 posted teaching hours time). The teacher =
gets paid a straight $480.=20

I've been arguing that the pay needs to be raised for a few years now. =
I need some figures to present to our guild to show them they are really =
behind the times. Please keep in mind we are talking CDN $ here, so if =
you are responding (please do!) from outside of Canada, state your =
currency and I can convert it.

I tremendously enjoy teaching. I usually teach a mixed level class =
Tuesday afternoons. Many of my students have joined our guild so I =
know I'm being effective. That, and the students grade the teachers at =
the end of the course - not the reverse. I've gotten a very enthusiast =
passing grade so far.

I have refused to teach this term at the Guild. I want them to take =
this seriously. Please help.

TIA for your help.


Sam - Maid O'Mud Pottery
Melbourne, Ontario CANADA
=20
"First, the clay told me what to do.
Then, I told the clay what to do.
Now, we co-operate."
sam 1994
=20
http://www.ody.ca/~scuttell/

Valice Raffi on sun 24 aug 03


Sam,

I get paid $20-$40 (US) per hour for teaching. At all places where I
teach, set-up and clean-up is included in the time, but of course, I
usually get there early and leave a little late.

There are only two places where I teach that prep is not paid extra. At
one, the rate is $25 per hour and the teachers have not had a raise since
I've been there (3 years), but we do get a free lunch!. It's a non-profit
social service agency. The other place pays high and I have very little
prep so it's been a non-issue.

The rest of the places give prep time - usually 1 hour prep per (X) hours
of teaching, which varies from place to place and also depends on what I'm
teaching, clay requires alot more prep than drawing.

By the way, I love your signature line, hope you don't mind, but I quote it
a lot when preparing new ceramics students for the idiosyncracies of clay:

>"First, the clay told me what to do.
>Then, I told the clay what to do.
>Now, we co-operate."
>sam 1994

Hope this helps,

Valice
in Sacramento

Gillian Whittle on sun 24 aug 03


At the Craft Council Clay Studio here in St. John's, Newfoundland,
instructors are paid $25/hr class time. That is, of course, in Canadian
dollars! This has been the rate for about ten years.

$20 seems a wee bit low, especially considering the higher cost of living in
Ontario.

Hope this helps in your quest for better wages!

Gillian Whittle
Lupin Lane Pottery
St. John's, Newfoundland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Maid O'Mud"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: Teaching at a guild - salary expectation


I need some help please.

The London Potters' Guild established a teaching rate of $18/hr in ~'91.
This was raised to $20/hr a couple of years back. This paid rate does NOT
include prep or clean-up time; no gas/milage expenses etc. Simply straight
hourly wage for the posted class time. That means an 8 week class of 3
hours per week (24 posted teaching hours time). The teacher gets paid a
straight $480.

I've been arguing that the pay needs to be raised for a few years now. I
need some figures to present to our guild to show them they are really
behind the times. Please keep in mind we are talking CDN $ here, so if you
are responding (please do!) from outside of Canada, state your currency and
I can convert it.

I tremendously enjoy teaching. I usually teach a mixed level class Tuesday
afternoons. Many of my students have joined our guild so I know I'm
being effective. That, and the students grade the teachers at the end of
the course - not the reverse. I've gotten a very enthusiast passing grade
so far.

I have refused to teach this term at the Guild. I want them to take this
seriously. Please help.

TIA for your help.


Sam - Maid O'Mud Pottery
Melbourne, Ontario CANADA

"First, the clay told me what to do.
Then, I told the clay what to do.
Now, we co-operate."
sam 1994

http://www.ody.ca/~scuttell/

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iandol on sun 24 aug 03


Dear Sam,
Why not consider the salary of a high school teacher and divide that by =
the number of working days, then calculate the hourly rate based on an =
eight hour day. It may not be accurate but it will give you a ball park =
figure.
Friend of mine teaches swimming to groups. He gets about $5.00 per =
student per session. Sessions last about an hour. Usually has about ten =
to twelve in a group. No prep, no clean up!!
Another way to go is to apply the annual rate of inflation to the =
original value over the time since the charge was first agreed.
Hope you solve the dilemma.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia