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Roger Korn on tue 17 jun 03

Alcohol

Sounds exciting! Also worth mentioning is that alcohol burns with a
colorless flame (hard to see) and if you should have a fire, water works
well to put it out.

Roger

Derrick Pottery - owner - Wesley Derrick wrote:

>I was emailed this link
>
>http://crystalline-ceramics.info/reduction.html
>
>and it is a very interesting setup...I do have a few questions though....
>
>Has anyone else tried this technique? If so, please let me know.
>
>wesley
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Ilene Mahler on tue 17 jun 03

Alcohol

Thats our own Fara Shimbo..and her great crystals...Ilene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derrick Pottery - owner - Wesley Derrick"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:35 PM
Subject: Regarding :|: {Link for} Electric Kiln Reduction with denatured
Alcohol


> I was emailed this link
>
> http://crystalline-ceramics.info/reduction.html
>
> and it is a very interesting setup...I do have a few questions though....
>
> Has anyone else tried this technique? If so, please let me know.
>
> wesley
>
>
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Lewis on wed 18 jun 03

Alcohol

Wow! That was a fascinating read. I'm a complete beginner, but I've been
wondering why one can't simply introduce Carbon Monoxide directly to a kiln
to achieve reduction. CO, being heavier than air and colder than the inside
of the kiln would tend to seem to 'fill' the kiln if introduced towards the
top of the kiln - I'm assuming no kiln is hermetically sealed even if bungs
are in etc). Burning denatured alcohol presumably gives (as the writer
confirms empirically) a very 'clean' atmosphere, so introducing CO would be
equally clean (and much less dangerous!).

Is this not a possible solution? Or is some kind of combustion required for
reasons other than the generation of CO?


Lewis


-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Derrick
Pottery - owner - Wesley Derrick
Sent: 17 June 2003 20:36
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Regarding :|: {Link for} Electric Kiln Reduction with denatured
Alcohol

I was emailed this link

http://crystalline-ceramics.info/reduction.html

and it is a very interesting setup...I do have a few questions though....

Has anyone else tried this technique? If so, please let me know.

wesley

Lewis on wed 18 jun 03

Alcohol

Except that it isn't flammable/explosive. I believe it can be obtained in
cylinders (although I don't know what licensing might be involved) . The
purpose of combustibles seems to be just to generate CO as a result of
incomplete combustion - so it seems that direct injection of CO should work.
Given that the only (?) hazard from CO is from its toxicity, CO detectors
would be adequate protection whereas - as other messages allude to - playing
with combustible fluids or gasses is indeed playing with fire!

Sorry about your experience.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Fredrick
Paget
Sent: 18 June 2003 19:07
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Regarding :|: {Link for} Electric Kiln Reduction with denatured
Alcohol

I can't see how using carbon monoxide would be considered less
dangerous than alcohol.
First I don't think you can get it unless you generate it your self.
It is very poisonous . I had personal experience with it. I lost an
eye as a result of an accident caused by a fall after carbon monoxide
poisoning.