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galenaware and redware/egyptian paste

updated thu 19 jun 03

 

Marcia Selsor on tue 17 jun 03


Roland,
I have a good book on Roman Pottery entitled..Roman Pottery by Peacock.
I have referenced it in some of my anthropological papers.
Good book.
Marcia

Tony Ferguson wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> If I remember correctly, Egyptian Paste is self glazing because of the
> mineral salts in the composition of the clay. I don't recall lead having a
> presence.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Tony Ferguson
> On Lake Superior, where the sky meets the Lake
>
> Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku and more
> by Coleman, Ferguson, Winchester...
> www.aquariusartgallery.com
> 218-727-6339
> 315 N. Lake Ave
> Apt 312
> Duluth, MN 55806
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Longtin, Jeff"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Galenaware and Redware/Egyptian Paste
>
>
>
>>Correct me if I'm wrong, was not Egyptian Paste considered to be the first
>>example of a "glazed piece", with possibly a lead glaze?
>>Jeff Longtin
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Roly Beevor [mailto:rolybeevor@CHRISTISON.COM]
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:23 AM
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>>Subject: Re: Galenaware and Redware
>>
>>
>>Marcia wrote
>>
>>>I don't think the Romans invented lead glaze although they used it a
>>>lot. The gates of Ishtar use a lead glaze in ancient Persia. 500+BC
>>>Marcia
>>>
>>
>>I've found a site which answers my question about whether Romans used lead
>>glaze:
>>http://www.potsherd.uklinux.net/
>>
>>Evidently they did though it seems that slip or terra sig. was more
>
> common,
>
>>neither of which would be technically glazes, am I right? And certainly
>>there was lead glaze before the Romans. I don't suppose they would have
>>claimed credit for the gates of Ishtar, I think they were more bothered
>>about preserving their chastity from the Etruscans round 500 BC.
>>
>>Roland
>>
>>
>
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Longtin, Jeff on tue 17 jun 03


Correct me if I'm wrong, was not Egyptian Paste considered to be the first
example of a "glazed piece", with possibly a lead glaze?
Jeff Longtin

-----Original Message-----
From: Roly Beevor [mailto:rolybeevor@CHRISTISON.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:23 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Galenaware and Redware


Marcia wrote
> I don't think the Romans invented lead glaze although they used it a
> lot. The gates of Ishtar use a lead glaze in ancient Persia. 500+BC
> Marcia
>
I've found a site which answers my question about whether Romans used lead
glaze:
http://www.potsherd.uklinux.net/

Evidently they did though it seems that slip or terra sig. was more common,
neither of which would be technically glazes, am I right? And certainly
there was lead glaze before the Romans. I don't suppose they would have
claimed credit for the gates of Ishtar, I think they were more bothered
about preserving their chastity from the Etruscans round 500 BC.

Roland

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Tony Ferguson on tue 17 jun 03


Jeff,

If I remember correctly, Egyptian Paste is self glazing because of the
mineral salts in the composition of the clay. I don't recall lead having a
presence.

Thank you.

Tony Ferguson
On Lake Superior, where the sky meets the Lake

Stoneware, Porcelain, Raku and more
by Coleman, Ferguson, Winchester...
www.aquariusartgallery.com
218-727-6339
315 N. Lake Ave
Apt 312
Duluth, MN 55806



----- Original Message -----
From: "Longtin, Jeff"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Galenaware and Redware/Egyptian Paste


> Correct me if I'm wrong, was not Egyptian Paste considered to be the first
> example of a "glazed piece", with possibly a lead glaze?
> Jeff Longtin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roly Beevor [mailto:rolybeevor@CHRISTISON.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:23 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Galenaware and Redware
>
>
> Marcia wrote
> > I don't think the Romans invented lead glaze although they used it a
> > lot. The gates of Ishtar use a lead glaze in ancient Persia. 500+BC
> > Marcia
> >
> I've found a site which answers my question about whether Romans used lead
> glaze:
> http://www.potsherd.uklinux.net/
>
> Evidently they did though it seems that slip or terra sig. was more
common,
> neither of which would be technically glazes, am I right? And certainly
> there was lead glaze before the Romans. I don't suppose they would have
> claimed credit for the gates of Ishtar, I think they were more bothered
> about preserving their chastity from the Etruscans round 500 BC.
>
> Roland
>
>
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> melpots@pclink.com.
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melpots@pclink.com.
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Snail Scott on wed 18 jun 03


At 11:21 AM 6/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
>...was not Egyptian Paste considered to be the first
>example of a "glazed piece", with possibly a lead glaze?


I'd agree with calling it glazed ceramics, although the
folks who want to limit the question to 'applied glazes'
have reason to make that distinction.

No lead in Egyptian paste, though.

-Snail