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floor tile ,contractor's requirements

updated thu 3 apr 03

 

Working Potter on tue 1 apr 03


A few years ago I planned to make the floor tile for a farmhouse I was
renovating and even got hundreds of tile sitters in the 4''x4'' and 5''x6''
sizes ,knowing the enormous space requirements in the kiln required to fire
them, however when I went to the tile centers to get advice on the grouts
and products to install them I was informed that floor tiles must meet the
Tile Institute of America standards to conform to code.
I called several installers and they refused to install handmade tile on
floors but would do so for tile on walls, splashbacks and around
fireplaces.Pool areas also were required to meet similar standards, if
memory serves also.They told me I should submit my tile to tests to get them
certified for floor installation ,especially were I PLANNING TO SELL THEM !!
WOULD SOME TILEMAKERS OR CERAMICS ENGINEERS SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE HERE,PLEASE?
Misty

Joanne Van Bezooyen on tue 1 apr 03


You can access the Tile Institute of America's web-site and order their
books and brochures which will give you the information you need on
specification for tiles made for each purpose, as well as their
installation.
HOWEVER....are you familiar with Mexican Saltillo tiles?....very soft and
underfired, many stones which are quite porous and need to also be sealed,
like travertine, are used on floors. I went into a $1.25 million house a
few weeks ago and brick was the floor in the kitchen. In my teen daughters'
bedrooms, clothing is used for flooring!

Joanne L. Van Bezooyen, artist
Art Gecko Designs, custom murals & art tile
11220 E. Via Madre
Tucson, Arizona, USA 85749

(520)749-1685 home
(520) 760-1584 studio and fax and cell
http://www.artgeckotile.com

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and men and dogs should relax and get
used to the idea."

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LindaBlossom on tue 1 apr 03


Those standards are by the tile industry for the tile industry. You do not
have to submit anything for their testing. Ask them just what kind of
testing they perform - dropping a hammer on them?? They have no problem
installing saltillo tiles and nothing you make could be softer than these.
You can check with the code officer in your area and find out if they have
any codes that apply to the tile that is installed - we do not have such
codes here. I have recieved much misinformation from tile store owners and
tile installers. Don't assume that what they say is what is true. Go to the
code officer for the truth and ask to see the code. I have never had a
problem having my tile installed.

Linda Blossom
Ithaca, NY


, however when I went to the tile centers to get advice on the grouts
> and products to install them I was informed that floor tiles must meet
the
> Tile Institute of America standards to conform to code.
> I called several installers and they refused to install handmade tile on
> floors but would do so for tile on walls, splashbacks and around
> fireplaces.Pool areas also were required to meet similar standards, if
> memory serves also.They told me I should submit my tile to tests to get
them
> certified for floor installation ,especially were I PLANNING TO SELL THEM
!!
> WOULD SOME TILEMAKERS OR CERAMICS ENGINEERS SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE
HERE,PLEASE?
> Misty
>
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Lois Ruben Aronow on tue 1 apr 03


Ditto on this. The only thing I would add it to make sure your glaze
is hard enough to resist scratching. If you're planning to install
the tile near a doorway, make sure they are freeze resistant. (If you
live in a cold winter climate).

>Those standards are by the tile industry for the tile industry. You do =
not
>have to submit anything for their testing. Ask them just what kind of
>testing they perform - dropping a hammer on them?? They have no problem
>installing saltillo tiles and nothing you make could be softer than =
these.
>You can check with the code officer in your area and find out if they =
have
>any codes that apply to the tile that is installed - we do not have such
>codes here. I have recieved much misinformation from tile store owners =
and
>tile installers. Don't assume that what they say is what is true. Go to=
the
>code officer for the truth and ask to see the code. I have never had a
>problem having my tile installed.
>

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J. B. Clauson on wed 2 apr 03


I'm not up on specs or building codes for floor tiles, but I did research
fireplace tiles about 5 years ago. In Mountain View., California, USA, the
building code requires cone 10 tile for fireplaces. It goes on to describe
cone 10 as being fired to temperature and "held for 24 hours". I've done a
lot of cone 10 firings and never heard of holding at temperature for 24
hours. I mentioned this to the building inspection people and they shrugged
and said in effect, that's the code.

Anybody out there know anything about such a requirement?

Jan C.