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black shino

updated mon 24 mar 03


mel jacobson on sat 22 mar 03

remember folks, it was me, me that coined `black shino`.
so, i am fully to blame.

at least having been to seto, japan, and being a person
that has looked at `white shino` for 40 years and, understanding
what japanese shino a degree,
i coined the expression....`american shino` to `historic shino`.

it is funny how i smiled at lee's post.
black means white.

we are a goofey bunch, we humans.
joyce's mama is gonna smack me.

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Lee Love on mon 24 mar 03

----- Original Message -----
From: "mel jacobson"

> i coined the expression....`american shino` to `historic shino`.

I believe "American shino" has been a term used for many years.

> it is funny how i smiled at lee's post.
> black means white.

In America, when I made slides, I always used MacKenzie's protocol and
called my "Minnesota or Wirt Shinos", Shino "type" glazes.

In Japan, I use "Carbon Trap" to refer to Minnesota Shinos. There are
a variety of Shinos here (white, red, orange, blue, gray.) The of the type of
clay and feldspar used, and also the need for particular type of firing for
their shinos (If you fire shinos here, they expect that you have a special
woodfired kiln that fires for 7 to 12 days, and use enormous amounts of wood)
is very important. One potter told me that "Shino is not a glaze. Shino is a
method of firing." They get the wrong idea if you say your Minnesota Shino is a

Because they do not add soda ash to their shinos and they do not get
carbon trapping in them, I call my Minnesota Shinos Carbon Trap glazes. The
soda ash and related carbon trapping is a critical difference. I then
explain that it is a glaze type inspired by traditional Japanese Shinos.

It is similar with Minnesota "Wild Rice." On my first visit to
Japan, I brought lake grown Wild Rice from Minnesota' to give as presents.
Japanese people had difficulty accepting this black & brown grain as "Rice."
When I started calling it "Wild Indian Grain", it was much easier for them.

Lee In Mashiko
"With Humans it's what's here (he points to his heart) that makes the
If you don't have it in the heart, nothing you make will make a

~~Bernard Leach~~
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