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blue white cobalt tricks need help

updated thu 30 jan 03

 

jeremy Kaiser on tue 28 jan 03


To my fellow clayart member's

I am decorating my mugs in the ancient design of the blue and white chinese patterns, does anyone know of a way to keep the cobalt from being too thick and keeping the cobalt suspended in the water. I need help because I don't want destroy my mugs for the assignment.

Peace out, Jeremy Kaiser



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Lily Krakowski on wed 29 jan 03


Jeremy. With all due respect, how should we know? You do not tell us what
you are doing. Is this slip you are using? A commercial underglaze? A
stain you bought in liquid form? A blue version of a white glaze? You are
like someone who goes into the MDs office and says I have a pain. What does
the MD do with that?

If you are plopping cobalt into water, then scraping it up with a brush, who
can be surprised it gets too thick? I have two suggestions: that you try
cobalt sulfate, OR that you go out and buy a little pot of dark blue un
derglaze and try that....

And then, m'dear, you TEST!



jeremy Kaiser writes:

> To my fellow clayart member's
>
> I am decorating my mugs in the ancient design of the blue and white chinese patterns, does anyone know of a way to keep the cobalt from being too thick and keeping the cobalt suspended in the water. I need help because I don't want destroy my mugs for the assignment.
>
> Peace out, Jeremy Kaiser
>
>
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Snail Scott on wed 29 jan 03


At 08:18 AM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
>I am decorating my mugs in the ancient design of the blue and white
chinese patterns, does anyone know of a way to keep the cobalt from being
too thick and keeping the cobalt suspended in the water.


Mix the cobalt with a thin white slip. When painting on
porcelain, just use the porcelain itself. Adding 1% cobalt
will give a consistently even blue color, and it will stay
suspended and flow well. Just putting cobalt into water is
definitely a recipe for irregular, patchy, and too-dark
results. (The Japanese do a variation of this method for
cobalt decorating - their mix is called 'gosu'. If you're
interested you could find out more by reading.)

-Snail

jeremy Kaiser on wed 29 jan 03


Good idea, i'll remember that, you are right about the patchy looky.Thanks for your help, this semester is gonna be interesting, juggling 3 studio art classes and working a job.
Snail Scott wrote:At 08:18 AM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
>I am decorating my mugs in the ancient design of the blue and white
chinese patterns, does anyone know of a way to keep the cobalt from being
too thick and keeping the cobalt suspended in the water.


Mix the cobalt with a thin white slip. When painting on
porcelain, just use the porcelain itself. Adding 1% cobalt
will give a consistently even blue color, and it will stay
suspended and flow well. Just putting cobalt into water is
definitely a recipe for irregular, patchy, and too-dark
results. (The Japanese do a variation of this method for
cobalt decorating - their mix is called 'gosu'. If you're
interested you could find out more by reading.)

-Snail

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jeremy Kaiser on wed 29 jan 03


Thank you for catching me on that, some times I tend to forget details when rushed. I'm just doing exactly what you described at the bottom and now plan to research what the japanese did to theirs to make it workable. Thanks for your advice, might send out pictures when done.
Lily Krakowski wrote:Jeremy. With all due respect, how should we know? You do not tell us what
you are doing. Is this slip you are using? A commercial underglaze? A
stain you bought in liquid form? A blue version of a white glaze? You are
like someone who goes into the MDs office and says I have a pain. What does
the MD do with that?

If you are plopping cobalt into water, then scraping it up with a brush, who
can be surprised it gets too thick? I have two suggestions: that you try
cobalt sulfate, OR that you go out and buy a little pot of dark blue un
derglaze and try that....

And then, m'dear, you TEST!



jeremy Kaiser writes:

> To my fellow clayart member's
>
> I am decorating my mugs in the ancient design of the blue and white chinese patterns, does anyone know of a way to keep the cobalt from being too thick and keeping the cobalt suspended in the water. I need help because I don't want destroy my mugs for the assignment.
>
> Peace out, Jeremy Kaiser
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
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Lili Krakowski
P.O. Box #1
Constableville, N.Y.
(315) 942-5916/ 397-2389

Be of good courage....

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