Craig Clark on sun 29 dec 02
Sam, I suggest that you pay a bit closer attention to those of our
leaders that have been openly quesitoning the wisdom of the FEAR based
intitiatives of pre-emptive strikes and actual invasion of another country.
The voice of reason, from my perspective, has been from the only individual
that has actually been in or even near a war, Colin Powell, formally head of
the Joint Cheifs of Staff.
He is the one who has actually been in the firing line. Seen people, on
both sides, blown to bits and the ravages that are wrought by suit wearin
Ivy League Yahoos whose relationship to war is nothing more than an
intellectual abstraction based on FEAR.
Why is it that Big Dick Cheney, when queried about what he was doing
during the Vietnam conflict responded that...."I had better things to do
during the sixties than go to Viet Nam." Why did el presidente take a pass
with his daddies money and join the Texas Air National Gaurd, which he
didn't even really serve any time in either? Show me a single one of the
bunch that did any real time in combat! None! At least the peacnix, as you
disparigingly refer to the folks who have the courage to be pacifists (I'm
not one of them. Haven't evolved that much yet) are not lilly livered
HIPPOCRITES. .
And before you start making ill founded comparisons between WWII and the
upcoming invasion of Iraq or the "war on Terrorism", whatever that is,
please take the time to substantiate what you are saying with direct
comparisons. Who, for instance, is Hitler, in this particular equation? Bin
Ladin perhaps? Well, we don't seem to be focusing on him right now do we.
My father fought in WWII. Won a buncha medals to. He never even showed
them to me. I found them in the bottom of an old drawer after my mother
dyed. Two of his brothers died killing Nazis. I would do the same if need
be.
The Middle East is boiling over with hatred and FEAR. Our student
artist
has indeed struck a universal cord. If we give in to hatred and FEAR, censor
ourselves, our friends, artists, and give up our rights then the terrorists
have already won. I for one will not do this!
I served my country out of a sense of duty and so that I could feel more
connected to the preservation of the freedoms that our system theoretically
has to offer.
Once again, there is this ambiguity coming from another person who
apparantly believes in a form of censorship or activity that is "sensible."
What does that mean? It means nothing! This FEAR based response is a recipe
for a fascist state.
Regardless of how sensible we may be there will be an ever increasing
threat until that time comes about where there are not a whole bunch o folks
who feel that they have no other options available to them than violence.
They suffer from the same type of FEAR that our mad boxer has made reference
to.
Please, take a few moments and ponder, what is it exactly that would
motivate a young man to blow himself to bits in a market square in order to
kill a bunch of civilians? Or the mad scientist who would unleash a modern
form of plague? Or the military planner who would cooly advocate the use of
tactical nuclear weapons in the form of a first strike? Hatred possibly?
Yeah, but what is the source of
the hatred? Once again, FEAR rears it's ugly head.
Here's a news flash for you. The people who attacked us didn't just drop
out of the ether. We know where they came from, ironically mostly from Saudi
Arabia but that is another discussion. They were radical fundamentalist
religous folk. For the record, I am truly afraid of radical fundamentalist
religous folks. Just take a quick peek at the historical record if you are
not. Start with the crusades.
As I've previously stated, the FEAR piece was sophomoric, but none the
less quite effective as is evidenced by the ongoing conversations.
My FEAR is that the folks with their hands on the tiller will sail us
into a war, on several fronts, that will make Viet Nam look like a walk in
the park. There will be untold loss of life on all sides. The majority of
those lost lives will most probably be civilians.
Weapons used will be both chemical and biological. Tactical nukes are in
the pipeline. THaT's real fear for me. I have a family and don't want to see
them incinerated because we are pissed off at former puppets, who we
supported, gave weapons to (the same ones we are now complaining about) and
will replace with one form of despot or another until they don't do as they
are expected.
What gives us the right to wander across the planet like a steriod pumped
teenage boy with a hardon?
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Yancy
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Black Boxes and FEAR
> I wonder if this "Artist" - or "Yo-Yo" depending on
> your oppinion - would have got the same response to
> the Boxes if they had been painted pink and titled
> "Peace" and "Love. Would that be "Art" or would that
> be a no-no mix of church and state. Comments?
>
> People who have never got their "Ass Trashed", seem to
> be sympathetic to this "Artist". Perhaps you would
> think differently if you or your loved one had
> suffered at one time or another due to Any terioust or
> criminal act? Having "been there' (suffered) at time
> or three in my life,I always keep a close watch on
> mine and my wife's surroundings (by the way, my wife
> thinks differently). It is not fear - but sensible
> precautions. Having (as a child) lived through WW II,
> I remember the internment of the Japanese families,
> "Blacked Out" Cities, sayings like "loose Lips Sink
> Ships" and so on. That was not Fear, but sensible
> precautions at the time - and we needed them. In a way
> I feel sorry for folks who have never faced fear ....
> usually "peace-nix's" (I bet that get's sombody
> "p--ssed off"). In some cases you have to fight back.
> P.S. Hopefully 2003 will be a better year than this
> one. Sam in Daly City.
>
> --- Vince Pitelka wrote:
> > Paul Herman wrote:
> > > The message I get from the art student is this:
> > > You, the viewers, are living in the black box of
> > fear. Fearful people
> > > are easy to control/manipulate. (Julius Caeser
> > knew this, and so do many
> > > contemporary politicians) Watch out for the ones
> > who peddle fear. And
> > > watch out for fascists, who want to send artists
> > to prison, or strap
> > > them to a bomb.
> >
> > Thank you Paul Herman. A voice of reason out there
> > in the wilderness.
> > Actually, there has been quite a strong voice of
> > reason on Clayart in
> > opposition to all those who advocate silencing or
> > PUNISHING this young
> > student for his "youthful arrogance." Thank god for
> > young and old artists
> > and anarchists and their "youthful arrogance." We
> > need a hell of a lot more
> > of that right now. If we have enough of them,
> > perhaps they can raise a
> > voice of protest sufficient to reduce pointless and
> > unnecessary acts of mass
> > violence in this world. Seems especially pertinent
> > as 30K additional troops
> > are being sent to the Persian Gulf.
> > - Vince
> >
> > Vince Pitelka
> > Appalachian Center for Crafts
> > Tennessee Technological University
> > 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
> > Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
> > 615/597-5376
> > Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> > 615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
> > http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
> >
> >
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