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big spouted pitchers with a trimmed bottom.

updated fri 13 dec 02

 

Kat Valenzuela on sun 8 dec 02


I would like to make pitchers with big spouts on them and a nice
footed bottom.
-The spout I have in mind would be something like Steve Hill. Does anyone know
if he pulls that spout or adds it on to the form?
-Then if one has a large spout how does one trim the bottom?, Do you have
to make
a special chuck! That doesn't appeal to me I don't really use any chucks. I
guess if
I have to I have to. But I do want to trim the bottom.

What methods do others use?

Large Forms
-If you make large forms by throwing three separate parts, Do you throw all
three parts one after
the other. Or do you let one part dry out first and then throw the other
attach to the drier form, let both parts dry up a bit and add the third
next. (does that make any sense)?


Kat in the Hat, Where it will be +8C in December! and I have been able to
ride my bike, yahoo! Usually it is -25 C. This will most likely mean a late
snow fall in spring. :(

Take care.

Jennifer F Boyer on mon 9 dec 02


Stephen's pitchers are made by adding a spout form (cut from a
smaller pot) onto the pitcher body. The feets are truly
wonderful, but he doesn't trim them. A chuck for trimming a form
like that would be REALLY tall and skinny. Or you could trim it
at the soft leather hard stage before altering the rim and
adding the spout.
Jennifer

Kat Valenzuela wrote:
>
> I would like to make pitchers with big spouts on them and a nice
> footed bottom.
> -The spout I have in mind would be something like Steve Hill. Does anyone know
> if he pulls that spout or adds it on to the form?
> -Then if one has a large spout how does one trim the bottom?, Do you have
> to make
> a special chuck! That doesn't appeal to me I don't really use any chucks. I
> guess if
> I have to I have to. But I do want to trim the bottom.
>
> What methods do others use?
>

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David Hendley on mon 9 dec 02


Trim pitchers, if you need to trim them, right side up.
After throwing, don't cut them off the bat. Let them dry on the
bat to leather hard, reattach the bat, and trim. It's not difficult
because you can even fell inside the pitcher to know how
much to trim.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com



----- Original Message -----
> > I would like to make pitchers with big spouts on them and a nice
> > footed bottom.
> > -The spout I have in mind would be something like Steve Hill. Does
anyone know
> > if he pulls that spout or adds it on to the form?
> > -Then if one has a large spout how does one trim the bottom?, Do you
have
> > to make
> > a special chuck! That doesn't appeal to me I don't really use any
chucks. I
> > guess if
> > I have to I have to. But I do want to trim the bottom.
> >
> > What methods do others use?

Sandy Cryer on mon 9 dec 02


In a message dated 12/9/2002 11:25:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
kat@DIGITALFIRE.COM writes:


> The spout I have in mind would be something like Steve Hill. Does anyone
> know
> if he pulls that spout or adds it on to the form?
> -Then if one has a large spout how does one trim the bottom?, Do you have
> to make
>

Steven Hill adds the spout using a cutout pc of slab. I can't remember if he
trims the footring, but I don't think so. I throw pitchers in 2 pts., the
bottom is a cylinder, shaped and the top curved in with a thick edge but no
rim. I turn this over and trim the bottom then put it in a giffen grip and
add a top. Throw a thick, short cylinder on a bat, the diameter of the
opening on the bottom plus about 1/2" do not undercut with a wire, this will
be used for the top. Secure the bottom part in the giffen grip with long
supports, score and slip the rim (i use magic water), turn the top part
upside down onto the bottom part and undercut next to the bat (you gotta be
kinda acrobatic). This part is then thrown into a large top & spout. Works
great for vases too.
Sandy Cryer

Eleanora Eden on thu 12 dec 02


I do a similar piece (I checked and two are on the brochure on my home
page) and I also start with two thrown components.

The body of the pitcher is thrown on a bat that fits onto the wheel
pins. The spout piece is thrown with a 1/2" thick wall at the base and
1/2" smaller diameter than the neck it will key into. With a small trim
tool I carve a 1/4" deep x 1/2" high ribbon of clay off of the outside of
the base of the spout piece. Both pieces are left to set up with plastic
coverings, the body with just a ribbon of plastic keeping the neck edge
from hardening and the spout piece with generous plastic over most of the
piece but the neck edge.

When the body is stiff enough to support the top I key the bat back onto
its pins, score and "spooze" the neck edge. Cut the spout piece off its
bat and score and spooze that cutaway at its base. So the spout piece just
sets down into place and from the inside I can pressure the seam closed
while keeping the lip in position while the wheel slowly turns. The top
of the spout piece that was covered with plastic is still malleable enough
to make the spout after it is carved to shape.

And remember, if you're a beginning big-pitcher-maker, your handle wants to
be able to support the pitcher full of liquid. You can make that pulled
handle pretty husky and cover an area of 2-3 square inches or so where it
attaches.

Eleanora




At 09:42 PM 12/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I would like to make pitchers with big spouts on them and a nice
>footed bottom.
>-The spout I have in mind would be something like Steve Hill. Does anyone know
>if he pulls that spout or adds it on to the form?
>-Then if one has a large spout how does one trim the bottom?, Do you have
>to make
>a special chuck! That doesn't appeal to me I don't really use any chucks. I
>guess if
>I have to I have to. But I do want to trim the bottom.
>
>What methods do others use?
>
>Large Forms
>-If you make large forms by throwing three separate parts, Do you throw all
>three parts one after
>the other. Or do you let one part dry out first and then throw the other
>attach to the drier form, let both parts dry up a bit and add the third
>next. (does that make any sense)?
>
>
>Kat in the Hat, Where it will be +8C in December! and I have been able to
>ride my bike, yahoo! Usually it is -25 C. This will most likely mean a late
>snow fall in spring. :(
>
>Take care.
>
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