Brian O'Neill on thu 10 oct 02
Good assessment Chris. Willie, I must have deleted your original post, but I would
add these comments.
While digital photography has come a long way in the last 2 years, and you can get
equivalent quality imagery (slides & prints) from a digital camera, the cost is
high (upwards of $700 for the kind of resolution you're going to want to match a
35mm slide). Additionally, the learning curve is steep unless you're already a
tech head. I have both, and opt for 35mm traditional slides when sending to
galleries and shows as they seem to still prefer film based images.
If you're planning to create images for a web site, low res images (72ppi) are all
you need, so the cheapest digital cameras will suffice. If you're planning to
produce printed marketing materials, and you have the computer hardware and
software , you'll need to step up to a camera with a high enough resolution to
give you sharp images at sizes say up to 8" x 10" depending on the size of the
brochure, etc. you're designing.
Both are nice, but if you're on a budget (and who isn't), a traditional 35mm
camera is my recommendation. If you need digital files, you can always have your
negatives/slides scanned on an "as needed" basis by a photo lab that has the
expertise to give you quality images for your particular needs.
Hope that helps,
Brian
Chris wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm a student and not any kind of photography expert, but I can give you a
> recommendation based on my limited experience and my recommendation would be
> that you use both digital and film. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my digital
> camera - it is instant gratification and i can save and print only the
> images i like which is so nice and convenient.
>
> However, while you CAN have slides made from digital images but it is rather
> pricey - much more so than shooting 35 mm slides - (after film and
> developing 35mm slides usually cost me less than $1 apiece, however having
> a single slide made from a digital image can cost alot more and some places
> who make slides from digital images are expecting digital art - like
> powerpoint presentations not actual photographs - I live in a small town
> and only one shop in town can do this kind of work and I found the quality
> of the slides they make from digital images to be less than satisfactory )
> On the flipside it is also possible to scan your 35mm slides with a flatbed
> scanner that has a negative adapter, (you can buy this kind of scanner for
> less than $100) but I find that the quality is not as good as a digital
> camera can provide and I also find it rather time consuming and frustrating
> making all the adjustments you need to make (changing the dpi, resizing,
> saving it as a jpeg, etc.) so, i would recommend for the highest quality
> images that you shoot 35mm slides and then use a digital camera for your
> internet images.
>
> But perhaps someone else on the list has had better luck with only one
> medium, and if so, I would like to hear about it as i would prefer to only
> shoot digital.
>
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "e wilson farrington"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:07 PM
> Subject: Recommendations for Cameras
>
> Hello ClayArters,
> It's time to buy a decent camera to shoot slides of my work. I am
> familiar with using a 35 mm camera, but it's old and needs a major overhaul.
> I know a lot of people are going with digital cameras. I was wondering what
> the pros and cons are about tradional slide film vs the newfangled digital
> stuff. I would like to post the shots on a website, submit for shows, for
> promotional stuff, etc, and I understand you can have slides made from the
> digital shots. Are these accepted the same as the regular slides? Comments,
> please! --Willie
>
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e wilson farrington on thu 10 oct 02
Hello ClayArters,
It's time to buy a decent camera to shoot slides of my work. I am =
familiar with using a 35 mm camera, but it's old and needs a major =
overhaul. I know a lot of people are going with digital cameras. I was =
wondering what the pros and cons are about tradional slide film vs the =
newfangled digital stuff. I would like to post the shots on a website, =
submit for shows, for promotional stuff, etc, and I understand you can =
have slides made from the digital shots. Are these accepted the same as =
the regular slides? Comments, please! --Willie
Chris on thu 10 oct 02
Hi
I'm a student and not any kind of photography expert, but I can give you a
recommendation based on my limited experience and my recommendation would be
that you use both digital and film. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my digital
camera - it is instant gratification and i can save and print only the
images i like which is so nice and convenient.
However, while you CAN have slides made from digital images but it is rather
pricey - much more so than shooting 35 mm slides - (after film and
developing 35mm slides usually cost me less than $1 apiece, however having
a single slide made from a digital image can cost alot more and some places
who make slides from digital images are expecting digital art - like
powerpoint presentations not actual photographs - I live in a small town
and only one shop in town can do this kind of work and I found the quality
of the slides they make from digital images to be less than satisfactory )
On the flipside it is also possible to scan your 35mm slides with a flatbed
scanner that has a negative adapter, (you can buy this kind of scanner for
less than $100) but I find that the quality is not as good as a digital
camera can provide and I also find it rather time consuming and frustrating
making all the adjustments you need to make (changing the dpi, resizing,
saving it as a jpeg, etc.) so, i would recommend for the highest quality
images that you shoot 35mm slides and then use a digital camera for your
internet images.
But perhaps someone else on the list has had better luck with only one
medium, and if so, I would like to hear about it as i would prefer to only
shoot digital.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "e wilson farrington"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Recommendations for Cameras
Hello ClayArters,
It's time to buy a decent camera to shoot slides of my work. I am
familiar with using a 35 mm camera, but it's old and needs a major overhaul.
I know a lot of people are going with digital cameras. I was wondering what
the pros and cons are about tradional slide film vs the newfangled digital
stuff. I would like to post the shots on a website, submit for shows, for
promotional stuff, etc, and I understand you can have slides made from the
digital shots. Are these accepted the same as the regular slides? Comments,
please! --Willie
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Orchard Valley Ceramics Arts Guild on fri 11 oct 02
>Hello ClayArters,
> It's time to buy a decent camera to shoot slides of my work. I
>am familiar with using a 35 mm camera, but it's old and needs a
>major overhaul. I know a lot of people are going with digital
>cameras. I was wondering what the pros and cons are about tradional
>slide film vs the newfangled digital stuff. I would like to post the
>shots on a website, submit for shows, for promotional stuff, etc,
>and I understand you can have slides made from the digital shots.
>Are these accepted the same as the regular slides? Comments, please!
>--Willie
I love digital cameras, and use mine for all my web work and informal
photographs.
However, even the best digital cameras have nowhere near the
effective "resolution"
of film.
Also, there aren't a lot of places that can convert digital images to
slides, and I
have run into quality problems with some of the local places.
If you are serious about submitting to shows, you need good quality
slides taken with
a 35mm camera.
Russel Fouts on sat 12 oct 02
>> I love digital cameras, and use mine for all my web work and informal photographs.
However, even the best digital cameras have nowhere near the effective
"resolution"
of film. Also, there aren't a lot of places that can convert digital
images to slides, and I
have run into quality problems with some of the local places. If you are
serious about submitting to shows, you need good quality slides taken
with a 35mm camera. <<
One thing that hasn't been mentioned about using 35mm cameras is that it
doesn't take the latest technology. In fact older tecnhology that
doesn't use auto-exposure and, especially auto-focus is actually better.
AND you can pick up a good used 35mm camera and lens for about $100.
I shoot all my own work and use a Canon FTb that's over 30 years old.
The bodies were about $100 so I bought 3. Much cheaper than getting it
repaired. This model will cost a bit more than other cameras it's age
because it was a very popular professional camera. A real work horse.
Excellent cameras have to be really well built to do their job in the
first place. Because of this, they are still excellent cameras long
after they have fallen from popularity. People buy new cameras to gain
new features, lighter weight, etc. Not because they where out (well not
usually).
By the way. I was sent by a local, Brussels gay magazine to cover that
Gay Games in NYC, it was amazing the number of pros that still use that
camera!
Getting the slides onto a CD easy and MUCH cheaper than what you would
spend for a very high resolution digital camera. And you have the best
of both worlds.
Russel
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