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bailey st-200 vs brent cxc

updated sun 29 sep 02

 

Rikki Gill on thu 26 sep 02


I agree. I love my new Bailey. I like working standing up which is why I
bought it. It's really much easier.
And it is so Quiet and smooth.
Rikki in Berkeley.
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From: "evan garber"
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Subject: Re: Bailey ST-200 vs Brent CXC


> I have the high-end Bailey with all the bells and whistles - I had a
> brent and sold it.
>
> I like the Bailey ALOT- When I had a problem witht he potentiometer on
> the pedal -they overnighted a replacement knowing I needed to get back
> to work ASAP and never asked for the original back.\> The wheel works well and I can lean my 230 pounds on it and not slow it
> down - it has a very large Leeson motor - one of the best.
>
> Well that's my opinion.
>
> Best
>
> Evan garber
>
> Diane Jones wrote:
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> >Hi
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> >I have been doing some research prior to purchasing my first wheel and
have narrowed it down to these two models. I have used the Brent during
lessons etc. but I am attracted to the splashpan design of the Bailey but
don't know anyone who owns one. Does anyone have any feedback on these
wheels. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks Diane
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Diane Jones on thu 26 sep 02


Hi

I have been doing some research prior to purchasing my first wheel and =
have narrowed it down to these two models. I have used the Brent during =
lessons etc. but I am attracted to the splashpan design of the Bailey =
but don't know anyone who owns one. Does anyone have any feedback on =
these wheels. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks Diane

evan garber on thu 26 sep 02


I have the high-end Bailey with all the bells and whistles - I had a
brent and sold it.

I like the Bailey ALOT- When I had a problem witht he potentiometer on
the pedal -they overnighted a replacement knowing I needed to get back
to work ASAP and never asked for the original back.\The wheel works well and I can lean my 230 pounds on it and not slow it
down - it has a very large Leeson motor - one of the best.

Well that's my opinion.

Best

Evan garber

Diane Jones wrote:

>Hi
>
>I have been doing some research prior to purchasing my first wheel and have narrowed it down to these two models. I have used the Brent during lessons etc. but I am attracted to the splashpan design of the Bailey but don't know anyone who owns one. Does anyone have any feedback on these wheels. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks Diane
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Dannon Rhudy on thu 26 sep 02


......am attracted to the splashpan design of the Bailey but don't know
anyone who owns one. Does anyone have any feedback on these wheels. I would
appreciate your comments....>

I have found the Bailey ST-200 to be an excellent wheel, over four years or
so of classroom-student use. I have used one myself also over that time,
and
find it to be: smooth, silent, easy to clean, more than strong enough. No
problems yet, so I can't speak to repair/adjustment issues.

Drawbacks for me: To use a bat bigger than 16", it is necessary to put a
thick clay pad down, to lift the bat above the one-piece molded splash pan.
This can be annoying for trimming large platters, etc. But overall, I like
the
wheel.

It is shipped (the price includes shipping) UPS, in two boxes. Takes about
15-20 minutes to put together. Instructions are clear, simple. It is not
difficult
to do.

regards

Dannon Rhudy

Carol Tripp on fri 27 sep 02


Hi Diane,
I use the CXC at the art centre and I hate the splash pan; it's hard to get
on and off and if you lean on it, it bends. Otherwise, the wheel is good
except we have continuing problems with the foot pedal needing adjustments.
I have a Bailey at home and I really like it. I work in a very confined
space and the built-in splash pan keeps the mess contained. It's easy to
clean up too. The wheel is smooth running and I have no complaints. Good
luck deciding.
Best regards,
Carol
Dubai, UAE

"Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."
Churchill


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Timakia@AOL.COM on fri 27 sep 02


I just ordered four Baileys for teaching purposes. Did not even consider any
of the other ones after 3 years of good service from the company and good
service from my Bailey. Comparing rices for what you get, Bailey is far
ahead, but hurry up, prices increase in October, I think , did they say by
25%.....?

Antoinette Badenhorst
http://hometown.aol.com/timakia
105 Westwood circle
Saltillo, MS
38866

Brian O'Neill on fri 27 sep 02


Diane,

For what it's worth, I have a CXC and a 20 year old Shimpo RK-2 Super. I throw larger pieces and when I center 20 lbs. on the new CXC it bogs down a bit. Not so with the Shimpo, and it has a smaller motor! I'm not suggesting you get a Shimpo, but I was disappointed in the Brent.

Good luck. Exciting!
Brian

Diane Jones wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have been doing some research prior to purchasing my first wheel and have narrowed it down to these two models. I have used the Brent during lessons etc. but I am attracted to the splashpan design of the Bailey but don't know anyone who owns one. Does anyone have any feedback on these wheels. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks Diane
>
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John Baymore on sat 28 sep 02


Diane,


For what it's worth, I have a CXC and a 20 year old Shimpo RK-2 Super. I
throw larger pieces and when I center 20 lbs. on the new CXC it bogs down=
a
bit. Not so with the Shimpo, and it has a smaller motor! I'm not suggesti=
ng
you get a Shimpo, but I was disappointed in the Brent.


I have a Brent CXC that has been in HEAVY professional use for something
like 27 years. It has been pretty much flawless. One very MINOR problem=

YEARS ago... and it was taken care of in a highly professionaI
manner....... small part sent gratis. I haven't even had to replace the=

belts yet. I still typically throw up to 25-30 pound pieces.... used to
throw 50-75 pound ones when I was a bit younger ...with the occasional=

100 pound piece. I am VERY satisfied with it.

We've got Brent Model C's at the college where I teach that have taken a
real lickin' .... and are going strong.

Years ago (70's) I was the FT technician at Mass. College of Art and we h=
ad
bunches of Brent C's..... and they too were real workhorses.

Unfortunately..... Brent's are not still made by the original Brent. So =
it
is possible that "your milage may vary" on the new units. The new CXC's
are certainly quieter than my old one ever was .

I just had one of the participants at my annual summer woodfiring worksho=
p
bring her brand new Brent wheel with her (packed in car due to a move). =

One day she brought it into the studio.... and mentioned she was having
some sticking problems with the footpedal. So I took a look at it. The
cast footpedal case was terribly finished!!!! You could see where the
casting of the base was hitting the casting of the pedal.... and where it=

had been PARTIALLY ground at the manufacturer's plant to try to fix it. =

But the grinding was "half-hearted" and it still bound up very badly. So=
I
got out the body grinder and finished the job that SHOULD have been done
before QC at "Brent" let it get out of the plant.


The few Pacifica's that I have had experience with ALL had footpedal
problems or one sort or another........... but that is very few experienc=
es
where I have had the opportunity to use them. It has always been in
workshop or demonstration situations.... never had a pile of them around =
in
a working school or studio situation that I could form some valid opinio=
n
about general construction, service, and longevity.


Watch out for comments like....... "Oh it is a really GREAT (wheel, kiln,=

slab roller, car, etc)...... the only thing is that I had to
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, and XXXXXXXXXXX, and XXXXXXXXXXXX. " If it was really
great...... you shouldn't have to do much other than USE it .

See the archives on the various wheel names..... this subject has gone
around before (like most subjects have over the years).


Don't fall into the trap of "paralysis by annalysis". Do your best to ma=
ke
sure you get a good one and then just buy it.
No matter whose wheel you buy....... check over the unit you get when it
arrives and make sure that all is finished well and all functions work
correctly. If it doesn't ..... refuse to accept it or send it back. And=

once you have done your homework and made the purchase...... don't keep
second guessing yourself after the fact.


Best of luck.........


Best,

..............................john

John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
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Wilton, NH 03086 USA

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