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updated fri 13 sep 02

 

Martin Rice on wed 11 sep 02


I just realized today that several months ago I wrote a letter to the =
list bitching about so much off-topic email. Now I see that I'm one of =
the worst offenders. So, I'm going to quit participating in these off =
topic things. If I just can't control myself -- which unfortunately is =
too often the case -- then I'll write the person off-list.

The reason I joined Clayart is because I want to become a decent potter. =
And not a day goes by when I don't save several items from the list for =
future reference. The trouble is that these items now run into the =
hundreds. I know that all of this is in the archives, but I've not been =
particularly successful in my searches, as I see from the postings is =
the case with others as well. And when I do get hits, I find the =
interface for going through a lot of them not particularly user =
friendly.

Which brings me to the point of this. Does any fellow geek-potter out =
there know of a good indexing program? I'd like to save all these =
hundreds of useful emails in a form in which I could easily search =
through them to find what I want. I could save them all as text or the =
program might be able to import them and then index them.

The program would definitely need to be able to do boolean searches. I =
can't just put in "glaze" because I'd get hundreds of hits and be the =
same place I am know with my myriad of folders. I need to be able to put =
in things like "glaze AND slumping NOT reduction" for example. I tried =
AskSam but wasn't delighted with it.

If anyone knows of a good program like this, I'd really appreciate =
hearing about it. It might be something many of us on the list could use =
profitably.

Thanks and regards,
Martin
Lagunas de Bar=FA, Costa Rica
http://www.rice-family.org

Tim on wed 11 sep 02


Martin,

It may not really be what you're looking for, but I just use Microsoft
Outlook. If that's an option for you, I've found that I can do a fair job
of setting up a tree of folders within the program that makes it
"reasonably" easy to get to what I'm looking for. I also periodically make
copies of the message I'm saving and file it under different areas kind of a
brute-force cross-reference system. But if all else fails, the "find"
feature in Outlook is fairly sophisticated. It can search for phrases, by
dates, by senders, etc. etc. By the way, I'm using Outlook 2000.

Regards,

- Tim Miller -
Fellow geek-potter =)


-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Martin Rice
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:47 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Computer Technology and Clayart


I just realized today that several months ago I wrote a letter to the list
bitching about so much off-topic email. Now I see that I'm one of the worst
offenders. So, I'm going to quit participating in these off topic things. If
I just can't control myself -- which unfortunately is too often the case --
then I'll write the person off-list.

The reason I joined Clayart is because I want to become a decent potter. And
not a day goes by when I don't save several items from the list for future
reference. The trouble is that these items now run into the hundreds. I know
that all of this is in the archives, but I've not been particularly
successful in my searches, as I see from the postings is the case with
others as well. And when I do get hits, I find the interface for going
through a lot of them not particularly user friendly.

Which brings me to the point of this. Does any fellow geek-potter out there
know of a good indexing program? I'd like to save all these hundreds of
useful emails in a form in which I could easily search through them to find
what I want. I could save them all as text or the program might be able to
import them and then index them.

The program would definitely need to be able to do boolean searches. I can't
just put in "glaze" because I'd get hundreds of hits and be the same place I
am know with my myriad of folders. I need to be able to put in things like
"glaze AND slumping NOT reduction" for example. I tried AskSam but wasn't
delighted with it.

If anyone knows of a good program like this, I'd really appreciate hearing
about it. It might be something many of us on the list could use profitably.

Thanks and regards,
Martin
Lagunas de Barú, Costa Rica
http://www.rice-family.org

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Ababi on thu 12 sep 02


Hello Martin
Download for testing (30 days) the program I use. It is not perfect, but I think you will
find what you need. One advise. backup on floppy disk not on CD, it does not like to be
restored this way. Incase you will buy it I will explain you how you can do it and still
your program will run
www.lingomail.com
I use outlook express as my default , use it only to send HTML pages or send a web
pages as they are.( When it is not the default I cannot send them)

One of it's good options is to see the mail at the server and chose to download only
what I want to read
It gives me also the size of the letter- if it looks too big I delete it before downloading
Ababi Sharon
Glaze addict
Kibbutz Shoval Israel
ababisha@shoval.org.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/
http://www.milkywayceramics.com/cgallery/asharon.htm

Martin Rice on thu 12 sep 02


Hi, Tim:

Thanks for the tip. I've used Outlook for a long time -- including Outlook
2000 -- and the search function is good, but it doesn't meet, for me, the
demands I want to place on it for the great amount of material that I'm
saving from Clayart.

Thanks,
Martin
Lagunas de Barú, Costa Rica
http://www.rice-family.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CLAYART] Computer Technology and Clayart


> Martin,
>
> It may not really be what you're looking for, but I just use Microsoft
> Outlook. If that's an option for you, I've found that I can do a fair job
> of setting up a tree of folders within the program that makes it
> "reasonably" easy to get to what I'm looking for. I also periodically
make
> copies of the message I'm saving and file it under different areas kind of
a
> brute-force cross-reference system. But if all else fails, the "find"
> feature in Outlook is fairly sophisticated. It can search for phrases, by
> dates, by senders, etc. etc. By the way, I'm using Outlook 2000.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Tim Miller -
> Fellow geek-potter =)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
> Behalf Of Martin Rice
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:47 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Computer Technology and Clayart
>
>
> I just realized today that several months ago I wrote a letter to the list
> bitching about so much off-topic email. Now I see that I'm one of the
worst
> offenders. So, I'm going to quit participating in these off topic things.
If
> I just can't control myself -- which unfortunately is too often the
case --
> then I'll write the person off-list.
>
> The reason I joined Clayart is because I want to become a decent potter.
And
> not a day goes by when I don't save several items from the list for future
> reference. The trouble is that these items now run into the hundreds. I
know
> that all of this is in the archives, but I've not been particularly
> successful in my searches, as I see from the postings is the case with
> others as well. And when I do get hits, I find the interface for going
> through a lot of them not particularly user friendly.
>
> Which brings me to the point of this. Does any fellow geek-potter out
there
> know of a good indexing program? I'd like to save all these hundreds of
> useful emails in a form in which I could easily search through them to
find
> what I want. I could save them all as text or the program might be able to
> import them and then index them.
>
> The program would definitely need to be able to do boolean searches. I
can't
> just put in "glaze" because I'd get hundreds of hits and be the same place
I
> am know with my myriad of folders. I need to be able to put in things like
> "glaze AND slumping NOT reduction" for example. I tried AskSam but wasn't
> delighted with it.
>
> If anyone knows of a good program like this, I'd really appreciate hearing
> about it. It might be something many of us on the list could use
profitably.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Martin
> Lagunas de Barú, Costa Rica
> http://www.rice-family.org
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> __
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>

george koller on thu 12 sep 02


Hello Mayor, Hello Villagers!

This thread is a "must write something" for me. I'm here
in the Northport Studio (Michigan) and its really strange.
My computer and Machine (Charley II) that have been
front and center in my world have literally been moved
to the back corner and everything to do with making tiles
and glazes have been brought up from the back rooms.
My thinking has also morphed. I'm no longer a programmer
trying to do tiles, but a "clay artist in the making" that used
used to be a technical guy..... that has been a rather slow
morph., but here I am and my hands are covered with
clay and I'm studying art and so on. made a batch stoneware
of tiles yesterday. Looking to build my own kiln soon.

At Alfred I started getting sucked into thinking "National"
again. Started seeing the world at my feet. Working with big
companies that would appreciate what I can do now
with those gizmos. Didn't happen. Now I crawl off my cot
and see myself as a mostly forgotten fellow in a small village
looking to do some new & good work. Not so bad. Its
a reality too. Let's see what I can do from here.....




Sincerely,

george koller


sturgeon bay, wi - door county
northport, mi - leelanau county (231) 386-5423