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horsehair question/add to bruce's advise

updated sat 10 aug 02

 

Marcia Selsor on wed 7 aug 02


Bruce says he puts his piece on a banding wheel with fiber.

I roll my pieces onto fiber and cool them upside down also on the fiber. They cool
more evenly and it reduced my cracking problems 100%. I usually fire 10-40 pieces
in a day when I am doing this process.
My little raku kiln is about 20" in diameter. I fire the piec up to 1200 F. and
quickly roll it onto hair I have arranged on the fiber blanket. Let it cool. I put
the next pot in the kiln whick has dropped to 800
degrees. It takes about 6 minutes to climb back to 1200 F. I do not preheat my
pots. I am using
Archie Bray raku clay so I don't know what is in it. I also use terra sig from
Ball clay and the pots are burnished. I don't use wax. I have used horse hair, dog
hair, and turkey feathers. I like the feathers. They give a great feather
image...almost fossilized looking. Short horse hair gives a finer line and a nice
variation to the tail hair which gives a thick black line.

Marcia in Montana
we're going to fire on Sunday both horse hair and raku pieces in Red Lodge.

Marianne Lombardo on wed 7 aug 02


Hi Marcia;

OK, now I just have to ask. Do you folks have a supplier to buy horsehair
or what? I have a mental picture of some innocent horses grazing in a
pasture while a potter sneaks up behind them and yanks out some hairs from
the tail. Ouch! LOL

Marianne Lombardo
Omemee, Ontario, Canada
mlombardo@nexicom.net

Marcia Selsor on wed 7 aug 02


Marianne
The latter is correct. It ain't easy!!! No, really, people give horse
hair to me because they know I am looking for it. I think they get it
while grooming the horses. No need to run around a pasture with scissors.
Marcia

Marianne Lombardo wrote:
>
> Hi Marcia;
>
> OK, now I just have to ask. Do you folks have a supplier to buy horsehair
> or what? I have a mental picture of some innocent horses grazing in a
> pasture while a potter sneaks up behind them and yanks out some hairs from
> the tail. Ouch! LOL
>
> Marianne Lombardo
> Omemee, Ontario, Canada
> mlombardo@nexicom.net
>
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Bruce Girrell on wed 7 aug 02


> OK, now I just have to ask. Do you folks have a supplier to buy horsehair
> or what? I have a mental picture of some innocent horses grazing in a
> pasture while a potter sneaks up behind them and yanks out some hairs from
> the tail. Ouch!

We get asked this a lot at art shows. You just have to get the hot pot up
under the tail before they notice. Actually, although some of our horsehair
comes from friends who have horses, horsehair is available commercially from
Tandy Leather. It comes in one pound bundles. We have yet to make it through
our first pound.

Bruce "and you don't want to know what happened to the horse" Girrell

Earl Brunner on wed 7 aug 02


Try Tandy leather -online:
http://www.tandyleather.com/products.asp?dept=108&pagenumber=6
This section also has feathers from different birds, and they work well used this
same way.
Marianne Lombardo wrote:

> Hi Marcia;
>
> OK, now I just have to ask. Do you folks have a supplier to buy horsehair
> or what? I have a mental picture of some innocent horses grazing in a
> pasture while a potter sneaks up behind them and yanks out some hairs from
> the tail. Ouch! LOL
>
> Marianne Lombardo
> Omemee, Ontario, Canada
> mlombardo@nexicom.net
>

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L. P. Skeen on wed 7 aug 02


Better. Go find a friend who has a horse, or the local petting zoo. Ask
'em to save the tail hair they get when grooming said beast. Nottaproblem!

L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Brunner"
Subject: Re: horsehair question/add to bruce's advise


> > OK, now I just have to ask. Do you folks have a supplier to buy
horsehair

Orchard Valley Ceramics Arts Guild on thu 8 aug 02


I buy my horsehair in bundles at Native American powwows.

You can also get it from Orr's Trading Company, (303) 722-6466 .
Last time I bought from them I think they charged me $20 for
a pound, which will last almost forever.

Horsehair that you buy this way is cleaned, combed, and
bundled. You might find a friend with a horse and ask
them to save hair from the tail when they groom the horse,
but I prefer spending a few dollars to get materials
that's easier to work with.

Gary Elfring on thu 8 aug 02


Hello Marcia,

Wednesday, August 7, 2002, 4:39:59 AM, you wrote:

MS> I roll my pieces onto fiber and cool them upside down also on the fiber. They cool
MS> more evenly and it reduced my cracking problems 100%. I usually fire 10-40 pieces
MS> in a day when I am doing this process.
MS> My little raku kiln is about 20" in diameter. I fire the piec up to 1200 F. and
MS> quickly roll it onto hair I have arranged on the fiber blanket. Let it cool. I put
MS> the next pot in the kiln whick has dropped to 800
MS> degrees. It takes about 6 minutes to climb back to 1200 F. I do not preheat my
MS> pots. I am using
MS> Archie Bray raku clay so I don't know what is in it. I also use terra sig from
MS> Ball clay and the pots are burnished. I don't use wax. I have used horse hair, dog
MS> hair, and turkey feathers. I like the feathers. They give a great feather
MS> image...almost fossilized looking. Short horse hair gives a finer line and a nice
MS> variation to the tail hair which gives a thick black line.

I use Great Lake's Raku Porcelain clay. I glaze the inside of the pot,
so I fire to 1800 F. I also apply various coloring oxides to the
outside. I pull the pot from a gas raku kiln and put it on top of a
piece of kiln shelf that sits on a banding wheel. Takes about 15 - 20
minutes to get each pot up to temperature, but the pieces are
functional (they hold water).

Different horse breeds have different kinds of tail hair. I really like an
entire tail I got from a friends Palamino horse (after it died). Very
long hair and very thick. Easy to apply - you can almost paint with
it.


--
Best regards,
Gary mailto:info@elfring.com

timothy wilcox on fri 9 aug 02


I know of a few Indian supply stores that also sell horsehair.

I haven't bougth from a few of them in years but recently I did buy some
stuff from crazy cro trading post somewhere in TX. They do have a website:

http://www.crazycrow.com/

The others are:

Buffalo Chips in billings montana Internet search turned up nothing but
maybe you can call information for billings

and

Supernaw's in Skiatook Oklahoma

http://supernaw.hypermart.net/index.html