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rats, clay at home & health code violations?

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Imzadi . on sat 15 jun 02


The neighbors around my house have dug up their yards extensively and three
of the neighborhood rats have found a new home -- in my kitchen! My landlady
who regales in being a beleaguered Victim called up a termite/bug specialist
instead of a RAT specialist. So I have been living with rats for over 45 days
now. By CA housing law, this is a Health Code voilation to have had them here
for so long without my landlady doing effective treatments to get rid of them
all this time.

I have called a Health inspector to come and document the problem so I can
take the landlady to court. The landlady, however, (in agreement with the
useless termite man, who is under her employ,) want to site that my having my
pottery wheel, a few bags of clay, a table full of clay tools and bats
smeared with clay (all this is contained only in a five foot corner of my
living room) and (after a day of trimming a 20 pots) a slight dusting of clay
dust around (which the landlady is calling DIRT) is what is causing and
continuing the rat infestation. The termite man, (who doesn't want to give a
refund,) has claimed he has been unable to get rid of the rats under these
continuing conditions.

Mind you, I have been barricading the rats in the kitchen each nite by
putting card tables over the kitchen entrance. Every once in a while they do
get out and scurry through the living room, clay area (I can hear them) and
then head back to the kitchen (which I no longer use). The massive amount of
feces and chewed up stuff lying around the kitchen -- but nowhere else --
especially around the clay area, lead me to believe there is no foundation to
the landlady's claims. I have left the feces etc. for the Health Inspector to
see where the rats stay.

The Health inspector is showing up Monday. Other than wiping up the clay
dust, (which as far as I know creates silicosis NOT rats) is there anything I
need to do or remove, so that _I_ won't get sited for health violations
instead/or in addition to my landlady? Does anyone know if it is a violation
to have a pottery wheel in one's living room or home? It is clearly off to
the side in what is obviously an "art and craft hobby" area.

Thanks,
Imzadi

Earl Brunner on sat 15 jun 02


Their position seems weak to me. I am not a rat expert, but it isn't "clean" dirt
that promotes rats, I would think it would be things like food and "nesting" type
materials. How a clay corner could contribute to that , I'm not sure, a proper
qualified pest professional should be able to deal with the rats. Clay or no clay.

I would have it fairly neat for the inspector though.

"Imzadi ." wrote:

> The neighbors around my house have dug up their yards extensively and three
> of the neighborhood rats have found a new home -- in my kitchen! My landlady
> who regales in being a beleaguered Victim called up a termite/bug specialist
> instead of a RAT specialist. So I have been living with rats for over 45 days
> now. By CA housing law, this is a Health Code voilation to have had them here
> for so long without my landlady doing effective treatments to get rid of them
> all this time.
>
> I have called a Health inspector to come and document the problem so I can
> take the landlady to court. The landlady, however, (in agreement with the
> useless termite man, who is under her employ,) want to site that my having my
> pottery wheel, a few bags of clay, a table full of clay tools and bats
> smeared with clay (all this is contained only in a five foot corner of my
> living room) and (after a day of trimming a 20 pots) a slight dusting of clay
> dust around (which the landlady is calling DIRT) is what is causing and
> continuing the rat infestation. The termite man, (who doesn't want to give a
> refund,) has claimed he has been unable to get rid of the rats under these
> continuing conditions.
>
> Mind you, I have been barricading the rats in the kitchen each nite by
> putting card tables over the kitchen entrance. Every once in a while they do
> get out and scurry through the living room, clay area (I can hear them) and
> then head back to the kitchen (which I no longer use). The massive amount of
> feces and chewed up stuff lying around the kitchen -- but nowhere else --
> especially around the clay area, lead me to believe there is no foundation to
> the landlady's claims. I have left the feces etc. for the Health Inspector to
> see where the rats stay.
>
> The Health inspector is showing up Monday. Other than wiping up the clay
> dust, (which as far as I know creates silicosis NOT rats) is there anything I
> need to do or remove, so that _I_ won't get sited for health violations
> instead/or in addition to my landlady? Does anyone know if it is a violation
> to have a pottery wheel in one's living room or home? It is clearly off to
> the side in what is obviously an "art and craft hobby" area.
>
> Thanks,
> Imzadi
>
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Edouard Bastarache on sat 15 jun 02


" The Health inspector is showing up Monday. Other than wiping up the clay
dust, (which as far as I know creates silicosis NOT rats) is there anything
I
need to do
Thanks,
Imzadi"

In this era of "conservationism", maybe you could convince your rats
to wear respiratory protection (Heheheheh)


Later,


Edouard Bastarache
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 16 jun 02


Oh!

Not so much 'strange'...as 'playful'!

Phil
ell vee

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:18:31 -0400 "L. P. Skeen" wrote:

Phil, you are truly a strange individual sometimes...........

Ok, here's the very best idea of all, since you're moving out anyway: On
the last day of your residence there, get some of the poison that somebody
swears by, and put it out in the kitchen. The landlady will then be unable
to re=rent the place due to stench. :)

L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Poburka"
Subject: Re: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?


> If she has one of those old fashioned 'Mail Slots' next to the front door,
wear some stout gloves to mitigate against 'bites', and see if the Rats will
fit through there.
>
> While your at it, you could see if there is a Garden Hose close by, and
see if the end of IT fits through there so...go ahead and turn it on while
your at it...'medium' should do just fine...

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Imzadi . on sun 16 jun 02


edouardb@SOREL-TRACY.QC.CA writes:
<<
In this era of "conservationism", maybe you could convince your rats
to wear respiratory protection (Heheheheh)>>

ROFL! Thanks Edouard. My "housemate" situation has been kind
of stressful. It's good to actually laugh over them. I recall a thread
a few months ago with people wondering how the studio environment
was affecting their dear pets. Maybe I can do the first study on non-lab-rats!

Imzadi

Jennifer L Smith on sun 16 jun 02


"...want to site that my having my
pottery wheel, a few bags of clay, a table full of clay tools and bats
smeared with clay (all this is contained only in a five foot corner of my
living room) and (after a day of trimming a 20 pots) a slight dusting of clay
dust around (which the landlady is calling DIRT) is what is causing and
continuing the rat infestation. The termite man, (who doesn't want to give a
refund,) has claimed he has been unable to get rid of the rats under these
continuing conditions."

This is ridiculous! If clay was such a rat magnet then we would ALL have rats in our studios. We'd be reading posts every day about whose rats were the worst and who were training rats to power their kickwheels and the great effects we got on pots when rats were shoved through the stoke holes.:0
Okay ..I'm done. But seriously the termite man is not qualified so his opinion is questionable. Talk to a rat specialist and over the phone he could probably tell you what attracts rats (food, not clay). And that way you've at least consulted a professional which would not harm your position and may help a bit.
Jennifer
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Janet Kaiser on sun 16 jun 02


The best solution is to beg, borrow or steal a ferret. Rats will leave
the premises, just like from the proverbial sinking ship if they so
much as smell one of their arch enemies. Do you have ferrets in the
USA? Useful little varmits and totally environmentally friendly :-)

Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art / Capel Celfyddyd
Home of The International Potters' Path
8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth LL52 0EA : GB-Wales
Telephone: ++44 (0)1766-523570
URL: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
postbox@the-coa.org.uk

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 16 jun 02


Dear Janet,

As irony would have it - at least if memory serve - poor ol' California, or the Gov't thereof, is mighty against the Ferret being allowed residence...

Good idea tho'!

Would work nicely...

Phil
Las Vegas

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 04:10:08 +0100 Janet Kaiser wrote:

The best solution is to beg, borrow or steal a ferret. Rats will leave
the premises, just like from the proverbial sinking ship if they so
much as smell one of their arch enemies. Do you have ferrets in the
USA? Useful little varmits and totally environmentally friendly :-)

Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art / Capel Celfyddyd
Home of The International Potters' Path
8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth LL52 0EA : GB-Wales
Telephone: ++44 (0)1766-523570
URL: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
postbox@the-coa.org.uk

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Philip Poburka on sun 16 jun 02


Dear Imzadi,

Well...playfully...seeing as how I have had some few moments of
disappoitment with
'landlords' at times, and I have ruminated on matters of diplomacy and tact
in my dealings with them...

I would assay a couple options..

You could get some 'Humane' Traps as allow you to capture the Rats without
insult or injury to them. I should feel they are entitled to more respect
than your 'landlady' hath earned, so ye may as well be nice to them.
Then you could turn them loose, ideally in your landlady's
personal residence. Maybe they may exceed her in some manners.

If she has one of those old fashioned 'Mail Slots' next to the front door,
wear some stout gloves to mitigate against 'bites', and see if the Rats will
fit
through there.

While your at it, you could see if there is a Garden Hose close by, and see
if the end of IT fits through there also...go ahead and turn it on while
your at it...'medium' should do just fine...


That is, at some time when she will be away for the day...or the Night...or
longer...do
your homework.

She can then consult 'specialists' as may suit the disposition of her
interests.

Just a thought...

Or if when you are going to move at some point, see if you can round up a
nice Mason Jar full o' them perky wiggley little happy-go-lucky 'Taiwan'
Termites as have a mite more wit to them than our old home-grown ones seemed
to have.
Introduce them to however many of her 'properties' as you can.
They can eat anything, they seal off 'poison' laid for them, eat 'treated'
Wood, and have an
'eye-que' better than
most folks we are likely to meet...they are wiley and resourceful, and like
little 'Duracell-Bunnies', they keep at it too...the usual remedial is to
remove everything down to several feet of sub-soil...'house' and all...I
should remain curious if her Insurance carrier will bend in sympathetic
defference to her being
the one 'wanting something done'...

Or...find and bring home a
really BIG (older-the-better- an "A.E.C." one would be ideal...)
Westinghouse Transformer or other similar thing.
'Hanford' Washington, while a bit of a drive, has lots of 'em lined up in
weed dotted fields, 'cheap', or cheaper if 'midnight-stores'.

Drag it in with some Chain Bailers or Winches or as may need be, and punch a
few holes in it so the 'PCB's and the cooling oils saturate the flooring and
so on just as nice as you please. Close all the windows, and turn the
thermostat up as high as it will
go and take a little vacation. The warmth will help them 'oils' penetrate
and fan out.
Brings out the 'grain' in a Wood Floor...

Be aghast on your return at her continued impositions!

Call the 'EPA' and ask them plaintifly if your landlady is really allowed to
make you
store that 'leaky' thing for her, as it wasn't in the 'Lease'...tell 'em
you are not likeing that 'nutty' flavour the air has taken on...or those
pesky flair-ups of fybromialgia and the 'ice-pick' migraines you been
a-havin' since ye got home...

They will be happy to take it from there.

Phil
Las Vegas...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Imzadi ."
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:01 AM
Subject: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?


> The neighbors around my house have dug up their yards extensively and
three
> of the neighborhood rats have found a new home -- in my kitchen! My
landlady
> who regales in being a beleaguered Victim called up a termite/bug
specialist
> instead of a RAT specialist. So I have been living with rats for over 45
days
> now. By CA housing law, this is a Health Code voilation to have had them
here
> for so long without my landlady doing effective treatments to get rid of
them
> all this time.
>
> I have called a Health inspector to come and document the problem so I can
> take the landlady to court. The landlady, however, (in agreement with the
> useless termite man, who is under her employ,) want to site that my having
my
> pottery wheel, a few bags of clay, a table full of clay tools and bats
> smeared with clay (all this is contained only in a five foot corner of my
> living room) and (after a day of trimming a 20 pots) a slight dusting of
clay
> dust around (which the landlady is calling DIRT) is what is causing and
> continuing the rat infestation. The termite man, (who doesn't want to give
a
> refund,) has claimed he has been unable to get rid of the rats under these
> continuing conditions.
>
> Mind you, I have been barricading the rats in the kitchen each nite by
> putting card tables over the kitchen entrance. Every once in a while they
do
> get out and scurry through the living room, clay area (I can hear them)
and
> then head back to the kitchen (which I no longer use). The massive amount
of
> feces and chewed up stuff lying around the kitchen -- but nowhere else --
> especially around the clay area, lead me to believe there is no foundation
to
> the landlady's claims. I have left the feces etc. for the Health Inspector
to
> see where the rats stay.
>
> The Health inspector is showing up Monday. Other than wiping up the clay
> dust, (which as far as I know creates silicosis NOT rats) is there
anything I
> need to do or remove, so that _I_ won't get sited for health violations
> instead/or in addition to my landlady? Does anyone know if it is a
violation
> to have a pottery wheel in one's living room or home? It is clearly off to
> the side in what is obviously an "art and craft hobby" area.
>
> Thanks,
> Imzadi
>
>
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Snail Scott on sun 16 jun 02


At 04:10 AM 6/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
>Do you have ferrets in the
>USA? Useful little varmits and totally environmentally friendly :-)



Yep, we got ferrets - popular pets in most of the
US. Fun little critters. Illegal in California,
though, where Imzadi lives. That's California for
you! ;) Many Californians cross the border to
Nevada, to buy their ferrets from pet shops here.

-Snail

(writing from Nevada, where Californians pay us
to provide all the stuff they want, but don't
want too close to home: legalized prostitution,
gambling, nuclear waste storage, and ferrets!)

L. P. Skeen on sun 16 jun 02


Ok, I can't stand it: why the hell are Ferrets illegal in California?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Snail Scott"
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?


> At 04:10 AM 6/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >Do you have ferrets in the
> >USA? Useful little varmits and totally environmentally friendly :-)
>
>
>
> Yep, we got ferrets - popular pets in most of the
> US. Fun little critters. Illegal in California,
> though, where Imzadi lives. That's California for
> you! ;) Many Californians cross the border to
> Nevada, to buy their ferrets from pet shops here.
>
> -Snail
>
> (writing from Nevada, where Californians pay us
> to provide all the stuff they want, but don't
> want too close to home: legalized prostitution,
> gambling, nuclear waste storage, and ferrets!)
>
>
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L. P. Skeen on sun 16 jun 02


Phil, you are truly a strange individual sometimes...........

Ok, here's the very best idea of all, since you're moving out anyway: On
the last day of your residence there, get some of the poison that somebody
swears by, and put it out in the kitchen. The landlady will then be unable
to re=rent the place due to stench. :)

L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Poburka"
Subject: Re: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?


> If she has one of those old fashioned 'Mail Slots' next to the front door,
wear some stout gloves to mitigate against 'bites', and see if the Rats will
fit through there.
>
> While your at it, you could see if there is a Garden Hose close by, and
see if the end of IT fits through there so...go ahead and turn it on while
your at it...'medium' should do just fine...

Rikki Gill on mon 17 jun 02


Because they have a nasty habit of chewing on children, and especially,
babies, or so it is said. I think they also multiply rapidly, and perhaps
have no natural enemies to keep their population down. They can be a
problem, or so it is thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. P. Skeen"
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?


> Ok, I can't stand it: why the hell are Ferrets illegal in California?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Snail Scott"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?
>
>
> > At 04:10 AM 6/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
> > >Do you have ferrets in the
> > >USA? Useful little varmits and totally environmentally friendly :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Yep, we got ferrets - popular pets in most of the
> > US. Fun little critters. Illegal in California,
> > though, where Imzadi lives. That's California for
> > you! ;) Many Californians cross the border to
> > Nevada, to buy their ferrets from pet shops here.
> >
> > -Snail
> >
> > (writing from Nevada, where Californians pay us
> > to provide all the stuff they want, but don't
> > want too close to home: legalized prostitution,
> > gambling, nuclear waste storage, and ferrets!)
> >
> >
>
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don hunt on mon 17 jun 02


Kindly refer to my state by it's correct name, The Peoples Republic of California.

"L. P. Skeen" wrote:

> Ok, I can't stand it: why the hell are Ferrets illegal in California?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Snail Scott"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?
>
> > At 04:10 AM 6/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
> > >Do you have ferrets in the
> > >USA? Useful little varmits and totally environmentally friendly :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Yep, we got ferrets - popular pets in most of the
> > US. Fun little critters. Illegal in California,
> > though, where Imzadi lives. That's California for
> > you! ;) Many Californians cross the border to
> > Nevada, to buy their ferrets from pet shops here.
> >
> > -Snail
> >
> > (writing from Nevada, where Californians pay us
> > to provide all the stuff they want, but don't
> > want too close to home: legalized prostitution,
> > gambling, nuclear waste storage, and ferrets!)
> >
> >
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Michele Williams on mon 17 jun 02


"I think they also multiply rapidly, perhaps"

How does 1,000 per year from 1 pair sound?




have no natural enemies to keep their population down.

Thank God twice that they have LOTS of natural enemies. Rodents are the
primary food source for most carnivores in the world, and rats give them
plenty to eat! If you didn't feed your dogs or cats, rats would be on their
menu. And many kinds of birds, including crows, cowbirds, owls, hawks,
eagles, vultures, and many carnivorous quadrupeds will eat a rat as large
as it can catch and swallow--and love those tasty ratbabies like they were
tootsie rolls.

If it weren't for those natural enemies, we'd never have any peace.

Michele Williams

Imzadi . on mon 17 jun 02


Answering everyone on one e-mail to save Joyce on having to make so many
mouse (eek!) er- cursor clicks.

Rush (artimater),
<<.Get a cat and a baseball bat and a catchers mask and go to war .....Kill
them suckers!!!!!>>

My ex got custody of the cat. (All right, the cat was always his to begin
with.) Too bad, such a great cat, he would have regally laid all three dead
carcasses at my feet in a single nite, like the great alpha cat he is.
As for a baseball bat, studies have been done on Navy SEALS as to how
many days they can go without sleep and REM sleep and still stay in "Kill
mode". I can now tell you how many days of no REM sleep it takes to go INTO
major "kill mode"! Had the rat been stuck on the trap on day 25 instead of
day five, he would have definitely gotten the bat, no qualms, regardless of
splattering infectious blood..

Ann,
<the place of the one with the Rotweiller bitten backside?>>

I did call a supervisor who was the one who guaranteed me that an inspector
will be out Monday. They have many inspectors, but Los Angeles County is so
spread out over hundreds of miles that each inspector had their own district
of maybe 50 miles wide. For another inspector to come out may take him an
hour's drive out of his district, and away from the several people he could
be seeing in his own area. A different source confirmed seeing on the news
that the particular area of LA I live in is particularly laden with rats this
summer. So each inspector already has their own full list for their area.

<It took a long time for that smell to dissipate and just the memory of it can
make me sick to my stomach.>>

Yuk! I just know the smell from one SMALL mouse decaying. Can't and don't
want to imagine what you went through.

John Baymore,
<(if you sell your pots) manufacturing
and/or selling out of a residence without a legal permit or variance for
the operation....... if those are required in your area...and the health
inspector blowing the whistle to the building or zoning people.>>

Just the thing I was wondering about. I had moved all my boxes of pottery
pieces to a friend's and am not making any more pots here till the place is
inspected. Just keeping the bare minimum to look like a "hobby". A CLEAN
hobby. Someone else suggested labeling and getting rid of piles. My place is
starting to look cleaner that a Smithsonian Museum setting.

Philip Poburka,
Um...gee Phil, was planning on stopping by to see your studio in Las Vegas
when we come to see Celine Dion sing and make a visit to my cousin at the
brothel... I think we will be busy after all...
Not! Just being "playful" with you!

L. P. Skeen,
<>

Just BECAUSE!!!!...That's why!

It is probably some political conservation equalization clause. Wolves, which
are illegal to own in most other parts of the country are legal in certain
parts of CA. (I know someone who has two,near of those wilderness mountains
up in northern CA.) So CA probably had to give up some other animal to keep
things equal. Ye ole' ferret probably got the ax instead.

I'll keep everyone updated once the Health Inspector finally shows up, and
what he says about clay & rodents. Thanks for all the support!

Imzadi

Russel Fouts on tue 18 jun 02


Izmadi,

To follow up on Janet's suggestion.

http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/areas.asp?cid=0&bid=1&area=ferret

Oddly enough, this is one of the first sites I ever visited on the
internet. Didn't know what one was, wanted to find out and why anyone
would have one.

Lot's of ferret info out there because they're kind of controverial,
many states and cities have declared themselves ferret free zones. They
can be another kind of problem.

Russel (Ferretless and rodentless in general but don't get me started
about pigeons! Rats with wings!)

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Brussels, Belgium
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Richard Jeffery on tue 18 jun 02


and you in a city with a memorial statue to the pigeons that fell in WW1....

shame on you!.....




Richard Jeffery

Web Design and Photography
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From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Russel Fouts
Sent: 18 June 2002 08:33
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Rats, clay at home & health code violations?


Izmadi,

To follow up on Janet's suggestion.

http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/areas.asp?cid=0&bid=1&area=ferret

Oddly enough, this is one of the first sites I ever visited on the
internet. Didn't know what one was, wanted to find out and why anyone
would have one.

Lot's of ferret info out there because they're kind of controverial,
many states and cities have declared themselves ferret free zones. They
can be another kind of problem.

Russel (Ferretless and rodentless in general but don't get me started
about pigeons! Rats with wings!)

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Russel Fouts
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Email: Russel.Fouts@Skynet.be

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My wife and I manage over 37 buildings, which include over 780 separate
rental units, here in the greater Los Angeles area. We have done so for over 26
years.

Mr Imzadi has absolutely no part in the rat infestation of his rental unit.
His pottery hobby contributes nothing to rodent attraction whatsoever, and any
court of law would laugh out the landlord's ranting and subsequently charge
her with negligence.

The rental unit's infestation must be corrected by a qualified and
'Licensed' extermination company that is qualified under California law to perform
rodent extermination procedures. Failure to do anything less by the landlord,
qualifies Mr Imzadi to 'abandon' the 'uninhabitable' dwelling and terminate the
lease. He would also be able to sue the landlord for failing to correct the
problem and causing him to live in a 'squalid' environment while promising
correction of the health code violation.

We have had rodent infestation problems in every area of the city, and under
all conditions. From our least expensive rentals, all the way up to our super
luxury units as well. From 500 sq. ft. apartments in the San Fernando Valley,
to 4,000 sq. ft. homes in Beverly Hills. From somewhat dirty residents to
'white glove' immaculate tenants. From multiple pet owners to single person live
alone residents. There is no one cause/blame for infestation, it is simply a
condition that exists in every major city all over the world. And good, caring
landlords deal with it effectively every day.

Thewolfeinmaine