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: mason stains vs. underglaze

updated wed 27 mar 02

 

iandol on sun 24 mar 02


Dear Craig Martell,

I use Mason stains as underglaze colours up to ^8 well down and they =
work well provided the atmosphere does not reduce. If this is not =
watched the Praseodymium Yellow and some of the reds fade.

Best regards,
Ivor

julie grunduski on sun 24 mar 02


Thanks for all the input on Mason Stains vs. underglaze. It sounds like
there is some cool stuff that can be used at a higher firing. Has anyone
been successful using the mason stains or underglazes as body stains in
slip. Just wondering if they hold up as well when mixed in to color the
clay.
Julie


>From: iandol
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>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: : Mason stains vs. underglaze
>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:29:29 +1030
>
>Dear Craig Martell,
>
>I use Mason stains as underglaze colours up to ^8 well down and they work
>well provided the atmosphere does not reduce. If this is not watched the
>Praseodymium Yellow and some of the reds fade.
>
>Best regards,
>Ivor
>
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Snail Scott on sun 24 mar 02


At 11:37 AM 3/24/02 -0500, you wrote:
Has anyone
>been successful using the mason stains or underglazes as body stains in
>slip.

I use Mason stains to color engobes. Works fine.
Intense colors need quite a lot of stain, and
you may have to increase the flux content to
compensate. Some colors are affected by choice
of overglaze, if any.


When you say 'underglaze', do you mean the
commercially-made ones in jars?

I would think that using underglaze as a colorant
would be diluting an expensive product to little
benefit. I'd use the underglaze 'straight' for
convenience and maximum effect, or just add
stains to an engobe for economy. I don't see
much advantage to combining the methods, except
as a 'stopgap' in the absence of the right stain
color, maybe.

-Snail

Lee & Kevin Daniels on mon 25 mar 02


Hi Julie

I sometimes use mason stains for body color. I fire to ^6. I use about one
teaspoon stain for every 100 grams of moist clay. Browns, tans and grays
need less stain, pinks, reds and violets, more.

Obviously, this isn't the frugal choice for getting color on a pot, but it
does make for some interesting patterns in the clay.

Have fun,

Lee Daniels
kevlee@seanet.com
www.leepots.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "julie grunduski"
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: : Mason stains vs. underglaze


> Thanks for all the input on Mason Stains vs. underglaze. It sounds like
> there is some cool stuff that can be used at a higher firing. Has anyone
> been successful using the mason stains or underglazes as body stains in
> slip. Just wondering if they hold up as well when mixed in to color the
> clay.
> Julie

julie grunduski on tue 26 mar 02


Thanks for the input -- i think my problem has been not using enough stain
to hold the color when I fire. I will try more stain to see how that works.
I'm just not sure if what I envision in my head is something I can
actually get to work. Guess I just have to keep trying. Thanks again.
Julie


>From: Lee & Kevin Daniels
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: : Mason stains vs. underglaze
>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:45:47 -0800
>
>Hi Julie
>
>I sometimes use mason stains for body color. I fire to ^6. I use about one
>teaspoon stain for every 100 grams of moist clay. Browns, tans and grays
>need less stain, pinks, reds and violets, more.
>
>Obviously, this isn't the frugal choice for getting color on a pot, but it
>does make for some interesting patterns in the clay.
>
>Have fun,
>
>Lee Daniels
>kevlee@seanet.com
>www.leepots.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "julie grunduski"
>To:
>Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:37 AM
>Subject: Re: : Mason stains vs. underglaze
>
>
> > Thanks for all the input on Mason Stains vs. underglaze. It sounds like
> > there is some cool stuff that can be used at a higher firing. Has
>anyone
> > been successful using the mason stains or underglazes as body stains in
> > slip. Just wondering if they hold up as well when mixed in to color the
> > clay.
> > Julie
>
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>
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>
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>melpots@pclink.com.


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