Wynne Wilbur on mon 14 jan 02
Hi Heather,
I've had tendonitis problems with my elbow and my shoulder and I think
you are doing a few things that may be aggravating your condition. First
of all, it takes a LONG time to heal from these injuries. I don't think
lifting weights is helping at all. It may be strengthening your muscles
but it may be continuing to inflame the tendons in your elbow. I would
give it a rest (I know - it's VERY hard to do) - you definately need
longer than three weeks. Also, heat is not advised (at least by every
health care professional I've talked to). You should be icing it once a
day (maybe twice) for about 15 minutes or until the skin feels numb.
It's uncomfortable but it will help keep the inflamation down. A good
way to do this is to freeze water in those little bathroom-sized paper
cups, then tear off the top part so you have about an inch of ice
exposed. Rub the painful area with this.
Good luck and have patience. My shoulder is just now beginning to feel
better after almost a year and is still easily aggravated if I over do
it.
Cheers, Wynne
Bosworth on sun 20 jan 02
Has anyone on the list had tennis elbow and what did you do to get rid =
of it or at least deal with it. I have had it for about a year. I lift =
weights twice a week so I know my upper body is strong, which I have =
heard is a cause (weak forearms). I have tried steroid shots one worked, =
one didn't. I tried at Christmas taking three weeks off to rest the arm. =
This didn't work either. I just bought CT cream, an herbal product to =
rub on the spot on my elbow, no luck yet (I'll give that more time). I =
tried occupational therapy (big waste of money!!!). I am trying =
non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (2 months - no change). The =
heating pad and my elbow have become good friends also to no avail. Any =
other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Too young to be having this problem...
Heather in the Sunny warm SC coast
Hannah on sun 20 jan 02
Dear Heather-
There is something you haven't tried. I'm not one to take a food =
supplement unless there is good evidence that it is beneficial. (So =
many out there now, it's hard to know what is really good.) But =
glucosamine has been used long enough for joint pain with good results =
and even doctors are suggesting trying it. Tests show that it =
really does lubricate joints and promote repair of tissue. I finally =
tried it after hearing many positive testimonials from friends and was =
amazed at how well it worked for me. Two tablets a day gave me =
results in just a few days, relieving my tendonitis of the elbow. I =
hope it might do as well for you.
Sincerely,
Hannah Brehmer
South Lake Tahoe, CA
SusanRaku@AOL.COM on mon 21 jan 02
I also have had tennis elbow from playing tennis too often. It started last
summer when I felt a sharp pain and became incapable of reaching out to lift
even my fork.
The sports doctor that I went to put me on anti-inflammatory and prescribed
PT for six months, three times a week, with the intent of strengthening my
wrist as a preventative. My trainer kept me on a routine that involved
stretch bands, rotating tubes, etc. One of the most important things was
wearing a wrist brace that went from my knuckles to several inches above my
wrist when I was not exercising. It had a metal plate in it that kept my
wrist straight. My doctor told me that it was most important to wear it at
night because while asleep we often bend and twist our wrist in a manner that
effects the elbow. He was absolutely correct on that, and when my wrist
becomes irritated now I start wearing it again at night.
Seems that it is normal to take a year or so to heal, and that is if you are
not doing what got it into that condition to begin with. Very trying indeed.
Susan
John and Dorothy Weber on mon 21 jan 02
Heather
Tennis elbow is a result of reparative motion, probably poor body mechanics.
I have also had this, for me it was a result of lots of tennis but poor
serving technique. The only "cure" was to stop the action for a while, go on
anti-inflammatory meds( OTC drugs such as Advil, nuprin, Motrin, ibuprofen
or aleve). Apply ice, you can purchase a elbow strap at your local pharmacy
that contains an ice pack. I found this helpful. Then carefully evaluate
your movements. Is this occurring when you throw? If so, ask yourself where
are your elbows when you are centering? Are they next to you body or are
they away? If they are away, then all they stress is placed on your elbow.
Your elbow is then expected to produce all the power to center. By placing
your elbows up against your body you end up using your the power of the
larger mass to help with this process. Ultimately causing less stress on the
weaker joint.
Dorothy Weber
Manakin-Sabot, Va.
SusanRaku@AOL.COM on mon 21 jan 02
In a message dated 1/20/2002 6:51:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hannah.b@MINDSPRING.COM writes:
> .) But glucosamine has been used long enough for joint pain with good
> results and even doctors are suggesting trying it. Tests show that it
>
Unfortunately there is not statistical proof that it is effective.
Susan
Nancy Guido on mon 21 jan 02
Heather,
I play tennis 5 days a week, but don't ever get tennis elbow from tennis.
I do get it (tendinitis) from pounding clay into tile molds and doing stupid
stuff like one-arming a pedestal out of the kiln. I did that over a year ago
and it took the entire year for most of the pain to go away. The tendon gets
inflamed at the place where it is attached at the elbow. Every time you use
your arm, for anything even lifting a cup, the tendon is activated and gets
irritated. I would have used voodoo if it helped, the pain was that bad.
Anti-inflammatories and absolute rest is best. One doctor told a friend of
mine to lift no more than a phone book, I couldn't even do that. So
everything I did was done with my other hand. I get occasional flare ups, I
don't try to make so many tiles a day, I vary my routine and I use my left
arm as much as possible. There is also an arm band with a little plastic
puffy pillow that you can buy that is supposed to keep the tendon from
pulling at the elbow. I wear that all day long to take pressure off the
tendon. Most of my tennis friends wear them to play tennis. I usually take
mine off to play. I used to lift weights, but even that will irritate the
elbow, can't even do pushups anymore without irritating the elbow (oh darn).
Arnica gel is another herbal remedy that I tried in desperation and I have
to admit strangely enough that it helped.
So, rest that arm, completely until it feels better.
Nancy G.
Debbie Jestin on mon 21 jan 02
Hi Heather, Two things that work are accupuncture and chiropractor.
Accupuncture is my number one choice works like a hot damn.
Frank Gaydos on mon 21 jan 02
Heather,
Tennis Elbow is not an age related problem.
It is caused by straining the muscles near your elbow.
I used to get it when I played Racquetball. I still play three times a week.
The only way to get rid of it is to do what you have been doing with the
exercise, which I assume are regular and reverse wrist curls using very
light weight, one to three pounds, lots of reps. Taking the
anti-inflammatory and rest is ideal. Three weeks for you is a long time but
not for your muscle.
But the most important thing is to use an arm ban which supplies support to
the muscle. What happens is the muscle is allowed to go beyond it's normal
range and gets inflamed. (Strained) The strap prevents this from happening.
Target what is causing the strain and make sure you wear the support during
that activity.
Be patient, work on building up the muscle. I lift while watching TV so I
feel it is more productive.:>) Continue taking the anti's and heat and cold
wraps help also.
Good luck.
Frank Gaydos
Subject: tennis elbow
Has anyone on the list had tennis elbow and what did you do to get rid of it
or at least deal with it.
Heather in the Sunny warm SC coast
Carole Rishel on mon 21 jan 02
I've had tendonitis and it does take a long time to heal. The arm band w=
orn just below the elbow offered tremendous relief. Seems to keep the mu=
scle in place while you're using it - keeps it from being reinjured. I a=
lso pulled my shoulder out of place (or I should say my horse pulled it o=
ut of place!). I used arnica gel and tablets (from a health food store) =
and the chiropractor. It took a good six months before I could raise my =
arm out to the side.
Carole Rishel
kallahcee@msn.com
Smithville, TX =20
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Guido
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:30 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Tennis Elbow
=20
Heather,
I play tennis 5 days a week, but don't ever get tennis elbow from tennis.
I do get it (tendinitis) from pounding clay into tile molds and doing stu=
pid
stuff like one-arming a pedestal out of the kiln. I did that over a year=
ago
and it took the entire year for most of the pain to go away. The tendon =
gets
inflamed at the place where it is attached at the elbow. Every time you =
use
your arm, for anything even lifting a cup, the tendon is activated and ge=
ts
irritated. I would have used voodoo if it helped, the pain was that bad=
.
Anti-inflammatories and absolute rest is best. One doctor told a friend =
of
mine to lift no more than a phone book, I couldn't even do that. So
everything I did was done with my other hand. I get occasional flare up=
s, I
don't try to make so many tiles a day, I vary my routine and I use my lef=
t
arm as much as possible. There is also an arm band with a little plastic
puffy pillow that you can buy that is supposed to keep the tendon from
pulling at the elbow. I wear that all day long to take pressure off the
tendon. Most of my tennis friends wear them to play tennis. I usually t=
ake
mine off to play. I used to lift weights, but even that will irritate t=
he
elbow, can't even do pushups anymore without irritating the elbow (oh dar=
n).
Arnica gel is another herbal remedy that I tried in desperation and I ha=
ve
to admit strangely enough that it helped.
So, rest that arm, completely until it feels better.
Nancy G.
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Craig Martell on mon 21 jan 02
Hi:
I had tennis elbow some years back and it would subside with rest and then
flare up again. I have a friend who's an Orthopedic Surgeon and he looked
at the problem and sent me to a guy who does hand rehabilitation. He had
developed a very long term solution to tennis elbow.
He explained that tennis elbow is caused by stress in the forearm muscles
that causes them to develop micro tears, as in very small rips. Rest will
heal this condition but when you rest the muscles they heal in a shortened
condition and the tears reoccur when the muscles are used again. He had me
massage and retear the muscles in a stretched state and I had to do this
twice a day for about 3 weeks. This massaging in the stretched state
causes the muscles to heal in an elongated condition. After the stretching
and healing, he gave me several excercises to do so the muscles also gained
strength and good condition. I haven't had any problems since. I was also
encouraged to work and make pots during the rehab process. I did this with
no trouble and it didn't seem to aggravate the condition as long as I did
the massage therapy twice a day.
A lot of folks mention appyling ice and not heat too. Lately I've been
seeing an MD who does accupuncture and she tells me that applying ice to
muscle and joint injuries is not a good thing to do. I know it works to
reduce swelling but she says that it also decreases blood flow to the
problem area and that's not good. She recommends warm, wet
compresses. I've done this to a sore shoulder and it helps a
lot. Although my phsician tells me not to apply ice, I think I would still
do this to a fresh injury to relieve pain and swelling and then go to heat
when it settles down a bit.
regards, Craig Martell in Oregon
potterybydai on tue 22 jan 02
>.......glucosamine has been used long enough for joint pain with >good
results.......
> Unfortunately there is not statistical proof that it is effective.
There are a lot of things that have no statistical proof of effectiveness,
but that nevertheless ARE effective---maybe not to all of the people all of
the time, but often enough that we use them to our advantage. Also, maybe
"they" just haven't found the test yet that will prove effectiveness. For
years, "they" pooh-poohed echinacea as a cold preventative (although it
worked like a charm for me), but just recently there have been studies done
which "proved" that echinacea actually does boost your immune system. My
feeling is that if it works for you, don't worry about whether or not it's a
"proven" cure/aid/technique/whatever.
Just my opinion.......
Dai in Kelowna, BC
potterybydai@shaw.ca
Life is 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you
respond to it.
Vicki Conley on tue 22 jan 02
Hi Heather, Try doing push-ups either the real ones or standing up in a
doorway with your hands on the framing. This motion stretches the shoulder
area and increases the circulation to the arms. As potters we are often
hunched over with rounded shoulders and this decreases the blood flow to the
arm area. Doing these exercises has made my tennis elbow go away - both in
the left arm from potting and the right arm from tennis. I had previously
even tried physical therpy treatments that didn't help a bit. Good luck.
Vicki
Vicki Conley
vicki@pinonpottery.com
www.pinonpottery.com
Susan Fox-Hirschmann on tue 22 jan 02
>From: Debbie Jestin
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Tennis Elbow
>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:39:18 -0500
>Osteopathy is another choice....mine, i might add.
susan
>Hi Heather, Two things that work are accupuncture and chiropractor.
>Accupuncture is my number one choice works like a hot damn.
>
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Frank Gaydos on wed 23 jan 02
Susan,
Actually there is proof. Consumers Digest came out in support of it last
month and my own conservative Joint Doctor said it will provide small relief
but relief indeed. I had to stop taking Vioxx and/or Relafen because it
destroyed my stomach. The good folks here at Clayart suggested glucosamine
and I'm very pleased with it. I also take one ibupropen twice a day. Now I
can load kilns, lift weights and write my name when five weeks ago it would
have been too painful.
Frank Gaydos
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Tennis Elbow
> In a message dated 1/20/2002 6:51:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> hannah.b@MINDSPRING.COM writes:
>
>
> > .) But glucosamine has been used long enough for joint pain with good
> > results and even doctors are suggesting trying it. Tests show that
it
> >
>
> Unfortunately there is not statistical proof that it is effective.
>
> Susan
>
Martin Howard on wed 23 jan 02
When I was working more as a healer than a potter, one lady tennis player
kept coming to me with tennis elbow.
Just 20 minutes of healing and it was OK.
Then she would be alright for a time, until another furious game and back
she would come.
I don't know why it worked for her, or why she did not learn from the
experience and modify her tennis playing.
But I suggest anyone with this complaint should at least try a local healer
and just give it a go.
Try though to find out why it happened and don't do it again!
Learn from experience!
Martin Howard
Webbs Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
01371 850 423
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
http://www.webbscottage.co.uk
Updated 20th January 2002
Llewellyn Kouba on mon 5 jan 04
Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely from
working on the wheel. I get it from time to time especially when I do the
really large stuff or large poundage. After the wheel work you have heavy
kiln shelves and lifting heavy buckets (5gal) around the studio and well
life goes on. Any tips to help this age old adage of baggage of bummed
elbow of pain in the but thing? besides not working which seems to never
occur and won't pay the bills either. Thanks.
Studio Potter
Llewellyn
Mark & Linda on mon 5 jan 04
I am all ears on this one as I too have lots of elbow pain. Not
working ( longer better) helps. No hammering. Advancer kiln sheleves
helped a lot. 9# each. Lets hope for a miracle cure. Mark
http://www.liscomhillpottery.com/
>Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely from
>working on the wheel. I get it from time to time especially when I do the
>really large stuff or large poundage. After the wheel work you have heavy
>kiln shelves and lifting heavy buckets (5gal) around the studio and well
>life goes on. Any tips to help this age old adage of baggage of bummed
>elbow of pain in the but thing? besides not working which seems to never
>occur and won't pay the bills either. Thanks.
>Studio Potter
>Llewellyn
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Judith S. Labovitz on mon 5 jan 04
I'm not sure I know the technical definition of tennis elbow....but I am
just now coming back to "normal" from what was diagnosed as tendonitis...I
thought it was just in my arm/elbow (couldn;t raise my arm...lots of pain
etc)...and learned the tendonitus actually was from my neck to my
wrist (the inflamation that is)
NOT making it worse is important...ie layoff the heavy stuff for a
while...I had physical therapy for 6-8 weeks....lots of stretching, weight
bearing exercises....lots of warm ultrasound...
the therapist suggested after using the arm for a while (yes, after a few
weeks I could start to throw again)...put either heat or ice...claims it
doesn;t matter which...
it does go away...just not as quickly as we'd like!!!.
good luck
judy
in sunny cold mid michigan
At 08:13 AM 1/5/04 -0700, you wrote:
>Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely from
>working on the wheel. I get it from time to time especially when I do the
>really large stuff or large poundage. After the wheel work you have heavy
>kiln shelves and lifting heavy buckets (5gal) around the studio and well
>life goes on. Any tips to help this age old adage of baggage of bummed
>elbow of pain in the but thing? besides not working which seems to never
>occur and won't pay the bills either. Thanks.
>Studio Potter
>Llewellyn
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Arnold Howard on mon 5 jan 04
From: "Llewellyn Kouba"
> Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely from
> working on the wheel.
You might try Connect-All and MSN Glucosamine cream. They are available from
health food stores.
Arnold Howard
John Rodgers on mon 5 jan 04
I've had the problem of tendonitis in the elbow, along with CTS in the
wrist. I was given padded braces for both the wrist and the elbow. The
wrist brace didn't help much for the CTS, but it made a big difference
in the elbow. It protected the elbow at night when sleeping, and kept
the arm straight. A bit awkward for sleeping, but one gets use to it.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Llewellyn Kouba wrote:
> Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely from
> working on the wheel. I get it from time to time especially when I do
> the
> really large stuff or large poundage. After the wheel work you have
> heavy
> kiln shelves and lifting heavy buckets (5gal) around the studio and well
> life goes on. Any tips to help this age old adage of baggage of bummed
> elbow of pain in the but thing? besides not working which seems to never
> occur and won't pay the bills either. Thanks.
> Studio Potter
> Llewellyn
>
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Cl Litman on mon 5 jan 04
The first couple of times I had a bad bout of tennis elbow I went for
acupuncture. The "entrenched" case which went on for months took about 6
sessions to clear up but the second time I went for treatment immediately
and within two sessions the pain was gone. Since then I try to vary the
work more, take stretch breaks. But when you're pushing to get work out,
it's easy to overdo it. When I know I've done too much I try to ice my
arm as soon as possible which, mostly, keeps it from getting worse.
Depends on how badly I've overused it. If I know I've really done too
much I also take 2 ibuprofens.
I also went for a few sessions to someone who practiced what's called
myotherapy. Only two in my state at the time so I had a long drive. She
talked about trigger points, isolated knots of muscle fibers, causing
this problem and had me practice pressing my thumb in to find the sore
spots. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being high I was to press and hold at
a level 7 for 10 seconds. I kept moving around finding all the sore
spots, pressing and holding. Sometimes it's too painful to hold a give
spot and then I'm supposed to work from the outside in, kind of a ring
pattern around the sore spot before reaching that spot. It works
remarkably well. I've used it on my neck and shoulder a lot as well.
Bought some big s- shaped gizmo to reach my shoulder. She also steered
me to a book written by Bonnie Prudden on myotherapy, I got it from my
library. She has a few different ones out (all old) but the book I had
gave details on both stretches and on myotherapy (trigger point therapy).
Old book, great pics showing what to do and where to press for various
problems. What I liked about this methodology is that the therapist
worked with me to make me independent of her, gave me specific stretches
and showed me how to release the trigger points myself. I give myself a
lot of bruises with this method but the pain is always released, usually
in the first "treatment".
Cheryl Litman - Somerset, NJ
cheryllitman@juno.com
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:13:28 -0700 Llewellyn Kouba
writes:
> Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely
> from
> working on the wheel. I get it from time to time especially when I
> do the
> really large stuff or large poundage. After the wheel work you have
> heavy
> kiln shelves and lifting heavy buckets (5gal) around the studio and
> well
> life goes on. Any tips to help this age old adage of baggage of
> bummed
> elbow of pain in the but thing? besides not working which seems to
> never
> occur and won't pay the bills either. Thanks.
> Studio Potter
> Llewellyn
>
>
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Hank Murrow on mon 5 jan 04
On Jan 5, 2004, at 7:13 AM, Llewellyn Kouba wrote:
> Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely from
> working on the wheel. I get it from time to time especially when I do
> the
> really large stuff or large poundage. After the wheel work you have
> heavy
> kiln shelves and lifting heavy buckets (5gal) around the studio and
> well
> life goes on. Any tips to help this age old adage of baggage of bummed
> elbow of pain in the but thing? besides not working which seems to
> never
> occur and won't pay the bills either.
My Internist 'gave' me a support band for tennis elbow that if worn
every day for four weeks gave that muscle/tendon a rest so it could
heal. Worked a charm for me!
Hank in Eugene
Mark & Linda on mon 5 jan 04
Lee ,
I do not eat red meat and catch my own tuna and salmon.
I'm heavy into fish for food. Usually can a two year supply of tuna
and give 1/2 away.
The vitamins may help. The elbow band also sounds good. My 4 week
break from clay is also helping. But all this year end bookkeeping is not.
Mark
>Mark & Linda wrote:
>
>>I am all ears on this one as I too have lots of elbow pain. Not
>>working ( longer better) helps. No hammering. Advancer kiln sheleves
>>helped a lot. 9# each. Lets hope for a miracle cure. Mark
>
>Cut down on red meat. Eat more fish, tofu and take vitamine E suppliments.
>
>Lee In Mashiko
>http://mashiko.us
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SHubbard64@AOL.COM on mon 5 jan 04
I tried the stretching, elbow supports, didn't even go to the studio for
three months---nothing seemed to help. I put ice on my elbow as many times a day
as I could and took motrin round the clock--------this worked for me in about
2 weeks.
Stephanie
Kathy Forer on mon 5 jan 04
Physical therapy with warm ultrasound really helped a lot. It took a
while, but one day the pain was gone. Washing your hands frequently in
cold water is supposed to be a good thing for arthritis, so that might
apply as well, to the elbows.
Be careful too with your computer set up. I moved to a nicer table only
1" higher and my wrist is hurting, overly pronated (the whole
configuration is different), and back very uncomfortable sitting. Must
return to less stable, dull lower table.
Kathy F.
James Stone on tue 6 jan 04
For short term relief of just about any joint or muscular malady these days I
go for the capsacin ointments. They're available over the counter and are
usually with the BenGay, etc. Go for the one with the highest percentage.
Works for a few days at least. One application will typically "reactivate"
itself with showering or light resumed activity.
While it will restore temporary function where all else fails, it is critical
to find out what is aggravating it in the first place, be it activity, food
reaction, etc. else you could really mess something up.
It will burn like heck at first- got my wife's 70 year old grandmother to say
words I didn't think she knew... ;^)
Sincerely,
Jim Stone
Galveston, TX
Marvpots@AOL.COM on tue 6 jan 04
As an old tennis player I can tell you that you will hear many suggestions.
The method I found most lasting was to exercise (so called "reverse curls)
with a small weight in the hand, bending the arm at the elbow and doing ten or
fifteen repetitions. In this way, those tendons and muscles in the elbow area
will get strengthened over time and repetition of tennis elbow can be avoided.
This was a system worked out by an orthopedist, specializing in sports
medicine.
If you were seeking medical advice, that's the kind of physician I would
recommend--
sometimes called a Physiatrist.
Good luck!
Marvin Flowerman
marvpots@aol.com
Lee Love on tue 6 jan 04
Mark & Linda wrote:
> I am all ears on this one as I too have lots of elbow pain. Not
> working ( longer better) helps. No hammering. Advancer kiln sheleves
> helped a lot. 9# each. Lets hope for a miracle cure. Mark
Cut down on red meat. Eat more fish, tofu and take vitamine E suppliments.
Lee In Mashiko
http://mashiko.us
John K Dellow on tue 6 jan 04
Llewellyu,
try to do warm down excersies after throwing . Like slowly swing the
arms in an arck and
gentle streching .Also use the clenched fist and tap your arms and
joints .
John
Llewellyn Kouba wrote:
> Any treatment out there for Tennis Elbow? I am sure it is largely from
> working on the wheel.
John Dellow "the flower pot man"
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Lee Love on tue 6 jan 04
Mark & Linda wrote:
>
> The vitamins may help. The elbow band also sounds good. My 4 week
> break from clay is also helping. But all this year end bookkeeping is
> not.
E is great. I burnt out my shoulders working double unload shifts at
UPS. A fellow worker pointed me to E and it really helped. There
are also helpful things in soybeans. I get most of mine from tofu and
miso. Miso is a wonder food, the light colored type is less salty.
Don't boil it, kills the good stuff.
Do you know what pottery activity was the possible cause?
Lee in Mashiko
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Sam or Mary Yancy on wed 7 jan 04
Deb - are you taking any medicine? I'm taking guafenesin, warfarin,singuliar, servent, albutrol, nasarel, combivent and flovent All due to the sin's of youth (not wearing a mask when dealing with paints and 'powders and three packs of camels a day for about 50 years". I too have both arm/elbo hurting most of the time. Especially when sleeping and eary daytime. Perhaps some medicines will cahsue this? - in some people. I wanted to use another herbal medicine for joint pain but was nixed bu the doctor due ti interaactive issues. ringe now I'm using nothing but am getting along ok. Just have to ignore it. P.S. it is not funt to have to sniff oxygen to do anything phisical. Noff said for those of you who still smoke or think you are invincible. Sam in Daly City
Deborah Pratt wrote:Greetings Clayarters,
I've been following this thread with great interest as I've been dealing with tennis elbow in both elbows since October (and the last time I held a tennis racquet was when it was getting a free trip to the Goodwill box). I've found an amazing amount of benefit from the forearm exercises; evidently I had been neglecting those muscles and wasn't even aware of it. I did a lot of web searching, and much of that information has been mentioned in this thread. There was some emphasis on a couple of sites about building on the exercises to wean away from the braces/straps eventually, and that the pain would go away eventually (doctor said in about 12 - 18 months!!!; I'd like to prove him wrong.). I also found that if I slept with my arm straight, the pain was much worse the next day (helped me differentiate between tennis elbow and "cubital tunnel syndrome" which is what some baseball players get "tommy john" surgery for...).
Some other sites also pointed out that it most commonly affects those in their "fourth decade." Grr.
Hope we all heal quickly--
Deb in Indiana where 21 degrees feels like a heat wave...
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Deborah Pratt on wed 7 jan 04
Greetings Clayarters,
I've been following this thread with great interest as I've been dealing with tennis elbow in both elbows since October (and the last time I held a tennis racquet was when it was getting a free trip to the Goodwill box). I've found an amazing amount of benefit from the forearm exercises; evidently I had been neglecting those muscles and wasn't even aware of it. I did a lot of web searching, and much of that information has been mentioned in this thread. There was some emphasis on a couple of sites about building on the exercises to wean away from the braces/straps eventually, and that the pain would go away eventually (doctor said in about 12 - 18 months!!!; I'd like to prove him wrong.). I also found that if I slept with my arm straight, the pain was much worse the next day (helped me differentiate between tennis elbow and "cubital tunnel syndrome" which is what some baseball players get "tommy john" surgery for...).
Some other sites also pointed out that it most commonly affects those in their "fourth decade." Grr.
Hope we all heal quickly--
Deb in Indiana where 21 degrees feels like a heat wave...
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