Wanda Holmes at Alistia on tue 4 dec 01
Can any of you suggest an alternative to canvas for rolling slabs? I don't
want the texture and removing it justs adds an extra step in my production
process that I'd like to eliminate. I have a Northstar slab roller and I've
tried heavy Pellon (non-woven interfacing material) but it bunches up. The
heaviest variety that I've been able to find is quite a bit lighter than the
canvas that came with my slab roller and I think that thatis the problem.
BigCeramicStore.com has a slab mat but they are $18.00 each and I'd need
four of them (two pair to alternate as they absorb moisture and need a rest
to dry out after several slabs), so they are a bit expensive.
Thanks,
Wanda
MartinDEpstein on wed 5 dec 01
I use interfacing when I don't want texture. It is used when sewing to
stiffen collars etc. Be careful not to buy the fuseable kind. =
Erin Hayes on wed 5 dec 01
Hi All!
If you roll slabs between sheets of heavy interfacing (available at fabric
stores) you won't have texture. They're pretty tough, too.
Erin.
Craig Clark on wed 5 dec 01
Funny that you should ask. The suggestion that I was just given, that works
quite well, is to use muslin (old sheets work) between the clay and the
canvas both top and bottom. Be sure to keep the muslin stretched tight
unless you want the "cool looking" wrinkled paper texture that you get it
you don't.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713) 861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wanda Holmes at Alistia"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: Rolling slabs without texture
> Can any of you suggest an alternative to canvas for rolling slabs? I
don't
> want the texture and removing it justs adds an extra step in my production
> process that I'd like to eliminate. I have a Northstar slab roller and
I've
> tried heavy Pellon (non-woven interfacing material) but it bunches up.
The
> heaviest variety that I've been able to find is quite a bit lighter than
the
> canvas that came with my slab roller and I think that thatis the problem.
>
> BigCeramicStore.com has a slab mat but they are $18.00 each and I'd need
> four of them (two pair to alternate as they absorb moisture and need a
rest
> to dry out after several slabs), so they are a bit expensive.
>
> Thanks,
> Wanda
>
>
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Stephani Stephenson on wed 5 dec 01
Wanda
Trying to find a less expensive way to make smooth slabs in a slab
roller?
Have you tried using plastic? perhaps a heavy duty sheet plastic. Could
be wrapped and taped around a thin piece of pressboard.
What about cutting up a large smooth plastic/vinyl table cloth? some of
them even have a flannel backing.
What about contact paper, the plastic stuff that has an adhesive
backing? That way you could get a smooth, wrinkle free surface. Adhere
it to some cardboard, mat board or masonite.
Printing mats also work beautifully, rubbery on one side, flannel like
on the other. Find a used one?
Flexible plastic table mats or place mats?
What about ensolite pads, those smooth thin foam pads used under
sleeping bags?
Another alternativeis to let the clay set up a bit , so that it is
somewhere between wet and leather hard, then use a printer's or other
type of squeegee and run it along the slab using two parallel guide
boards . I admit, I haven't tried the large scale squeegee ,
brainstorming here, but I do saometimes use a flat rubber/plastic rib
over slabs after rolling, if Iwant a smooth look .
happy slabbing!
Stephani Stephenson
Carlsbad , CA
steph@alchemiestudio.com
Snail Scott on wed 5 dec 01
At 09:06 AM 12/4/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Can any of you suggest an alternative to canvas for rolling slabs?
I'd keep the canvas, but put something between it
and the clay. Maybe felt?
-Snail
Harry on wed 5 dec 01
Hi Wanda,
If you aren't doing huge slabs you could use pastry mats. The are used
for rolling out pastry and I use it for rolling out clay, When I bought it
the lady asked if I was a baker and I told her what I was going to use it
for, that sure was a strange look she gave me. Mine is about 18 inchs
across. I generally don't need slabs bigger than that.
Good luck, Harry in Iowa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wanda Holmes at Alistia"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: Rolling slabs without texture
> Can any of you suggest an alternative to canvas for rolling slabs? I
don't
> want the texture and removing it justs adds an extra step in my production
> process that I'd like to eliminate. I have a Northstar slab roller and
I've
> tried heavy Pellon (non-woven interfacing material) but it bunches up.
The
> heaviest variety that I've been able to find is quite a bit lighter than
the
> canvas that came with my slab roller and I think that thatis the problem.
>
> BigCeramicStore.com has a slab mat but they are $18.00 each and I'd need
> four of them (two pair to alternate as they absorb moisture and need a
rest
> to dry out after several slabs), so they are a bit expensive.
>
> Thanks,
> Wanda
heloisareis on wed 5 dec 01
Hi clayartists and Wanda!
Whenever I want a slab with no texture I use two or three sheets of
yesterday's newspaper on the slab only at the last rolling , instead of =
the
upper canvas. Carefully extending the sheet, it works.
In time: someone ( sorry I cannot remember who) asked me about the wax I =
use
under my pots, instead of parafin . Well , here in Brazil it is called
BRAVO and is produced by Johnson&Johnson.
Hugs from Brazil
Heloisa
"O meu discurso em favor do sonho, da utopia, da liberdade,
da democracia =E9 o discurso de quem recusa a acomoda=E7=E3o
e n=E3o deixa morrer em si o gosto de ser gente..."
(Paulo Freire)
NOSSA LOJA em venda especial 2001
Veja em
http://www.atelierheloisareis.art.br
Arnolds Home Improvements on wed 5 dec 01
Wanda
We use pieces cut from old bed sheets between the canvas and the clay. So
far no problems and no canvas texture, just smooth clay and cheaper than 18
bucks each!!
Gene Arnold
mudduck@advi.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Wanda Holmes at Alistia
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:51 AM
Subject: Rolling slabs without texture
>Can any of you suggest an alternative to canvas for rolling slabs? I don't
>want the texture and removing it justs adds an extra step in my production
>process that I'd like to eliminate. I have a Northstar slab roller and
I've
>tried heavy Pellon (non-woven interfacing material) but it bunches up. The
>heaviest variety that I've been able to find is quite a bit lighter than
the
>canvas that came with my slab roller and I think that thatis the problem.
>
>BigCeramicStore.com has a slab mat but they are $18.00 each and I'd need
>four of them (two pair to alternate as they absorb moisture and need a rest
>to dry out after several slabs), so they are a bit expensive.
>
>Thanks,
>Wanda
>
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Jeff Osborne on wed 5 dec 01
SlabMat is a wonderful product and very well designed for its purpose.
Produces a very smooth surface and mats dry quickly.
Watch video of SlabMat in action. You can purchase through Osborne Designs.
SlabMat Video in Quicktime.
http://www.osbornetile.com
Jeff Osborne
Osborne Designs - Handmade Tile
http://www.osbornetile.com
270.535.3021
pjh_mae on thu 6 dec 01
Wanda:
I pressmold my clay pieces and for years looked for a fabric that didn't
have texture. I looked at every type of fabric that was available to
the buying public, but found nothing that didn't add in new problems. I
finally found a fabric manufacturer that would make the fabric for me.
After using the samples for a few years, I new that other people would
appreciate having this terrific product. I named it SlabMat and
started marketing it to the clay art world in Denver 2000 at NCECA. We
have sold thousands since then and now have eleven distributors.
You seem to have a price limit set on purchasing your slab-making
fabric. What size slabs are you trying to roll? Maybe the size will
help in reducing the price of the fabric by reducing the size of the
fabric.
Let me know if I can help you.
Thanks.
Pam Herring
Herring Designs, LC
Makers of SlabMat -- The Smooooooooooth Alternative to Canvas!
www.HerringDesigns.com
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Can any of you suggest an alternative to canvas for rolling slabs? I
don't
want the texture and removing it justs adds an extra step in my
production
process that I'd like to eliminate. I have a Northstar slab roller and
I've
tried heavy Pellon (non-woven interfacing material) but it bunches up.
The
heaviest variety that I've been able to find is quite a bit lighter than
the
canvas that came with my slab roller and I think that thatis the
problem.
BigCeramicStore.com has a slab mat but they are $18.00 each and I'd need
four of them (two pair to alternate as they absorb moisture and need a
rest
to dry out after several slabs), so they are a bit expensive.
Thanks,
Wanda
John Crittenden on thu 6 dec 01
This subject was discussed about a year or so ago. Someone suggested =
going to the garden center and getting the material they use in flower =
beds to keep grass from growing. Water passes through it, but sunlight =
doesn't. I got some at Home Depot, but it left texture on the slabs. I =
got some more at Wal-Mart and it works great. It is black on one side =
and gray on the other. The fray side is like very thin felt and leaves =
no texture. It comes in a roll which is about 36 inches wide and there =
is a lot on a roll. Also, it can be washed and reused. Good luck.
John
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