Wade Blocker on sun 28 oct 01
Dear Clayarters,
I need help identifying a frit that is not listed by Frank G in his
website. Ferro 4124. It might be a frit that is used in England. If that is
the case, I would like to have the nearest substitution available in the
US, or a chemical analysis. Thank you, Mia in ABQ
Bacia Edelman on sun 28 oct 01
mia, are you sure it isn't 3124/ some expert will probably
recognize it, but 3124 has been around for ages.
not imitating mel. i have been having wrist problem and then
tore a ligament in wrist---- a potter's delight.
no caps----bacia
12:47 PM 10/28/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear Clayarters,
> I need help identifying a frit that is not listed by Frank G in his
>website. Ferro 4124. It might be a frit that is used in England. If that is
>the case, I would like to have the nearest substitution available in the
>US, or a chemical analysis. Thank you, Mia in ABQ
>
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vince pitelka on sun 28 oct 01
> I need help identifying a frit that is not listed by Frank G in his
> website. Ferro 4124. It might be a frit that is used in England. If that
is
> the case, I would like to have the nearest substitution available in the
> US, or a chemical analysis.
Mia -
Are you sure that wasn't a typo? Ferro 3124 is a common Ferro frit, not to
be confused with Ferro 3134. I had a friend who bought a load of custom
clay which produced a kiln load of bloated wares because the vendor had
accidentally used 3134 instead of 3124. You would think that this would
have occurred to Ferro when they decided on the identification numbers.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
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Wade Blocker on mon 29 oct 01
Michael, Des and Ababi,
thank you for your recommendation to use Ferro 3124 instead of 4124. Will
run a test and see what happens. Mia
Ababi on mon 29 oct 01
As far as I know, and it is war away, in Australia Ferro frits start
with 4
4110 is 3110
hence 4124 should be 3124
Ababi
---------- Original Message ----------
>Dear Clayarters,
> I need help identifying a frit that is not listed by Frank G in his
>website. Ferro 4124. It might be a frit that is used in England. If
>that is
>the case, I would like to have the nearest substitution available in the
>US, or a chemical analysis. Thank you, Mia in ABQ
>________________________________________________________________________
>______
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>melpots@pclink.com.
Michael Banks on mon 29 oct 01
Mia,
It is possible this is the downunder version. Ferro Australia (for some
reason known only unto themselves) manufacture several frits common to the
USA, such as 3134, 5301, 3124 etc, but have re-numbered them 4108, 4101 and
4124 respectively... So, 4124 is the same as 3124 if is made in Oz.
Michael Banks,
Nelson,
New Zealand
----- Original Message -----
> Dear Clayarters,
> I need help identifying a frit that is not listed by Frank G in his
> website. Ferro 4124. It might be a frit that is used in England. If that
is
> the case, I would like to have the nearest substitution available in the
> US, or a chemical analysis. Thank you, Mia in ABQ
Des & Jan Howard on mon 29 oct 01
Mia
Greg Daley "Glazes and Glazing Techniques"
Ferro frit 4124
Na2O 6.64
K2O 1.27
CaO 14.13
Al2O3 5.98
B2O3 14.52
SiO2 57.48
"Similar to frit 4108, but not so reactive to glaze stains.
It also produces a milky gloss when used alone,
i.e. 1020-1120C(1868-2048F). Useful to add to other frits."
Des
> I need help identifying a frit that is not listed by Frank G in his
> website. Ferro 4124. It might be a frit that is used in England. If that is
> the case, I would like to have the nearest substitution available in the
> US, or a chemical analysis. Thank you, Mia in ABQ
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
LUE NSW 2850
Australia
Ph/Fax 02 6373 6419
http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
Des & Jan Howard on tue 30 oct 01
Michael
Just to confuse the issue.
From Daley again.
Ferro frits
Australian No. US No. UK No.
4064 3026 VTR29
4110 3110 3110
4113 3124 DV8172A
Ferro Australia has been quite helpful in answering questions
about frit analyses of "industry standards", it is only their
latest specially compounded frits they get antsy about.
Des
Michael Banks wrote:
> Mia,
> It is possible this is the downunder version. Ferro Australia (for some
> reason known only unto themselves) manufacture several frits common to the
> USA, such as 3134, 5301, 3124 etc, but have re-numbered them 4108, 4101 and
> 4124 respectively... So, 4124 is the same as 3124 if is made in Oz.
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
LUE NSW 2850
Australia
Ph/Fax 02 6373 6419
http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
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