Elca Branman on thu 25 oct 01
Kudos to both Appalachian Craft Center and the New Hampshire Institute..
Remember that legitimacy comes with a price..neckties, board
meetings,etc..
Elca in Sarasota,Florida,USA
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vince pitelka on thu 25 oct 01
> The New Hampshire Institute of Art has just recieved word that we have
been
> accredited by NASAD (National Association of Schools of Art and Design).
We
> have been working on this process for about 4 1/2 years now....so this a
> very nice thing for all of us who teach there. We've been granting BFA
> degrees in this state (NH) for a while..... but this gives us much needed
> national accreditation....which opens up many opportunities. At the
> least... our students now have access to more financial aid programs .
John -
Congratulations, and now you can congratulate me, because we just found out
that the TTU Art Department, including the Appalachian Center for Crafts,
also just received accreditation from NASAD. For those who do not know
about this, the process of applying for NASAD accreditation is incredibly
complicated and time consuming, so it means a great deal to us when it comes
out well.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
John Baymore on fri 26 oct 01
Congratulations, and now you can congratulate me, because we just found o=
ut
that the TTU Art Department, including the Appalachian Center for Crafts,=
also just received accreditation from NASAD. For those who do not know
about this, the process of applying for NASAD accreditation is incredibly=
complicated and time consuming, so it means a great deal to us when it
comes
out well.
Vince,
Congratulations to you too!!!!!!!!!! =
=46rom my experiences, I likely have some perspecitve on how much work YO=
U
put into the process at TTU-ACC too. Yes... it is a PILE of work. But
all that "introspection" does make the program stronger. =
And as VInce knows.... the process is not really over... it is ever
ongoing. NASAD reviews each school in 5 years to see if it is continuing=
to progress.
Again........ way to go!
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
John.Baymore@GSD-CO.com
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop 2002 Dates TBA"=
vince pitelka on fri 26 oct 01
> Kudos to both Appalachian Craft Center and the New Hampshire Institute..
> Remember that legitimacy comes with a price..neckties, board
> meetings,etc..
> Elca in Sarasota,Florida,USA
Elca -
Somehow I think that both John Baymore and I will manage to avoid the
neckties, and hopefully the bored meetings (yes, that was on purpose) as
well. I cannot even begin to communicate to you and others how lucky I feel
that there are very little petty politics and media competition in our art
department. Frankly, we enjoy each other's company and have a great time
whenever we get together. I know that this is an anomaly within academia,
and I love it.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
vince pitelka on fri 26 oct 01
Several people have sent me messages wondering why we went to all the
trouble of applying for NASAD accreditation. In art, accreditation is
valuable for a number of reasons. First, as John Baymore and others pointed
out, accreditation opens some special financial aid opportuities for
students. Second, the university has much to gain when as many programs as
possible are accredited. This only applies to programs for which
accreditation is even available, and with the accreditation of the art
program, TTU can now claim 100% accreditation.
Third, the accreditation process forces the University to acknowledge
shortcomings in the art facilities and to do something about it. When the
accreditation team was here they spent the first day on the TTU campus
examing the on-campus portion of the art program. I went out to dinner with
them that night, and they were visably distressed. It was apparent that
they felt we did not have a chance in hell at accreditation, considering the
problems with the on-campus portion of our art program. They spent the next
day at the Appalachian Center for Crafts (20 miles away from the main TTU
campus), and by the end of the day their opinion had changed 180 degrees.
They said they had never seen such a facility in any university in the US.
We already knew that, but it was nice to hear it from them.
The accreditation team reported to the University adminstration that there
was no way they could earn accreditation unless they improved the on-campus
drawing and painting studios, increased the on-campus art budget, and
improved the library art holdings, including complete reorganization of the
slide collection. So, in order to improve the chances of accreditation, the
University complied with all of these recommendations. There is no way we
would have been able to get them to take care of these things otherwise.
Also, they FINALLY brought Craft Center faculty salaries up to equity with
comparable on-campus faculty salaries. That was a very long time coming,
and much appreciated. We are still among the lowest-paid art faculty in the
country, but considering the local cost of living, and considering the
embarassment of riches we enjoy at the Appalachian Center for Crafts, I have
no complaints at all. Okay, I could come up with some. Don't get me
started.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Karin Hurt on sat 27 oct 01
Hi Vince,
I think it is appropriate to say "you've come a long way baby" (the
Appalachian Center for Crafts). I remember shortly after my first evening
class it was announced that the Center would close. It was a fight and a half
to reverse that. I remember a request by Kathleen Guss that we all send out
cards of protest, we addressed them right there and she mailed them for us.
Unfortunately I don't remember to whom we sent them. Not only is this
facility is the finest in the country, and you the most generous teacher,
it's also in a sensational location. My only regret is that I moved across
the country and do not have access to it anymore. Congratulations.
Best Wishes,
Karin
Lake Havasu City, AZ
John Baymore on sat 27 oct 01
Vince,
Third, the accreditation process forces the University to acknowledge
shortcomings in the art facilities and to do something about it. =
............................... The accreditation team reported to
the University adminstration that there
was no way they could earn accreditation unless they improved the on-camp=
us
drawing and painting studios, increased the on-campus art budget, and
improved the library art holdings, including complete reorganization of t=
he
slide collection. So, in order to improve the chances of accreditation,
the
University complied with all of these recommendations. There is no way w=
e
would have been able to get them to take care of these things otherwise.
We have experienced the exact same effect. The process has instigated
great change in the school in many diverse areas. It forces issues that
otherwise can simply be overlooked for long periods...... or not even
considered at all before they are brought to people's attention. We too
are getting many things done that if this procees hadn't happened.... we
would have never seen. Our former President, Andrew Svedlow, (spoke at
NCECA opening ceremonies last year) who is now the Dean of the school of
art at Winthrop........ was a man with a vision responsible for starting
this process......... and his ideas are now coming to fruition even thou=
gh
he has moved on to other things.
We too are getting the school's Visual Arts Resource Center (VARC)
...otherwise known as the library ....... greatly revamped, and in the=
process they went out and recruited a very qualified new librarian who is=
a
real "mover and shaker". We just got in every ceramics book that the
ceramics faculty had on the "wish list"...... and some on that list had
been there a LONG time previously .
As one very "selfish" result of all this work, the ceramics program is
getting both more physical space and more equipment. Can't complain
about that. =
Well..... I could. What is that Madonna song ????......... "I want
MOOOOOOOORE!" =
I know, I know......... never satisfied .
Also, they FINALLY brought Craft Center faculty salaries up to equity wit=
h
comparable on-campus faculty salaries. That was a very long time coming,=
and much appreciated. We are still among the lowest-paid art faculty in
the
country,............
We had the same thing happen for all faculty in the school. Still not "g=
et
rich quick"...... but far better than it had been.
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
John.Baymore@GSD-CO.com
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop 2002 Dates TBA"=
John Baymore on sat 27 oct 01
Remember that legitimacy comes with a price..neckties, board meetings,etc=
..
Elca,
THANKS!
Whoa....... who said anything about legitimacy ?
But yes...... there have been plenty of meetings. But most have actually=
been exciting....rather than boring. The school seems to be in a "get
things done" mode because of undertaking the whole process.
I think the last time I wore a tie in conjunction with pottery specific
activities was in Mashiko in 96 . Oops... no.... wore one when I went=
to Shimoaka-sensei's opening at the Pucker gallery last year....... as
indication of respect. =
I always kinda' liked those pictures of Leach throwing in a necktie. =
Wonder what my students would think if I showed up to my next throwing
class wearing a tie? Humm......... actually....... I don't wanna' know!
.
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
John.Baymore@GSD-CO.com
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop 2002 Dates TBA"=
John Baymore on sat 27 oct 01
Vince,
Somehow I think that both John Baymore and I will manage to avoid the
neckties, and hopefully the bored meetings (yes, that was on purpose) as
well. =
The only "board" meetings I like are on a slippery snow covered hill, 28=
F, no wind, 2 feet of fresh powder . And being first
I cannot even begin to communicate to you and others how lucky I feel
that there are very little petty politics and media competition in our ar=
t
department. Frankly, we enjoy each other's company and have a great time=
whenever we get together. I know that this is an anomaly within academia=
,
and I love it.
Interesting....... this kinda describes the Institute too. Glad to hear=
that you have that experience too. All of us who teach there (in variou=
s
different media) seem to have the same sense that there is little of the
"infighting" that seemed to pervade many of our other experiences in the
academic world. In fact, when we get together we always lament that we
never have enough time to get together as a whole group.
It seem like it is usually not so cordial:
Who was that folksinger who did a "social commentary" type song (using
other religious and ethnic references) that in this context might go
something like .................
All the painters hate the photographers,
and the photographers hate the painters.
All the sculptors hate the printmakers........
and everybody hates the potters!
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
John.Baymore@GSD-CO.com
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop 2002 Dates TBA"=
Dai Scott on sat 27 oct 01
>Who was that folksinger who did a "social commentary" type >song (using
>other religious and ethnic references) that in this context might go
>something like .................
>All the painters hate the photographers,
>and the photographers hate the painters.
>All the sculptors hate the printmakers........
>and everybody hates the potters!
John, I think it was the Kingston Trio, and the commentary was on political
leanings?
Dai in Kelowna, BC, old enough to remember the Kingston Trio.
"There is no right way to do the wrong thing."
potterybydai@shaw.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baymore"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [CLAYART] NHIA and Craft Center get NASAD accreditation
Vince,
Somehow I think that both John Baymore and I will manage to avoid the
neckties, and hopefully the bored meetings (yes, that was on purpose) as
well.
The only "board" meetings I like are on a slippery snow covered hill, 28
F, no wind, 2 feet of fresh powder . And being first
I cannot even begin to communicate to you and others how lucky I feel
that there are very little petty politics and media competition in our art
department. Frankly, we enjoy each other's company and have a great time
whenever we get together. I know that this is an anomaly within academia,
and I love it.
Interesting....... this kinda describes the Institute too. Glad to hear
that you have that experience too. All of us who teach there (in various
different media) seem to have the same sense that there is little of the
"infighting" that seemed to pervade many of our other experiences in the
academic world. In fact, when we get together we always lament that we
never have enough time to get together as a whole group.
It seem like it is usually not so cordial:
Who was that folksinger who did a "social commentary" type song (using
other religious and ethnic references) that in this context might go
something like .................
All the painters hate the photographers,
and the photographers hate the painters.
All the sculptors hate the printmakers........
and everybody hates the potters!
Best,
..............................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)
JohnBaymore.com
JBaymore@compuserve.com
John.Baymore@GSD-CO.com
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop 2002 Dates TBA"
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vince pitelka on sat 27 oct 01
> I think it is appropriate to say "you've come a long way baby" (the
> Appalachian Center for Crafts). I remember shortly after my first evening
> class it was announced that the Center would close. It was a fight and a
half
> to reverse that. I remember a request by Kathleen Guss that we all send
out
> cards of protest, we addressed them right there and she mailed them for
us.
> Unfortunately I don't remember to whom we sent them. Not only is this
> facility the finest in the country, and you the most generous teacher,
> it's also in a sensational location. My only regret is that I moved across
> the country and do not have access to it anymore. Congratulations.
Karin -
This is a very kind and generous note, and I appreciate it. For those who
have not been on Clayart very long, in 1996 TTU was hit with major budget
cuts, and the administration announced that they were going to close the
Craft Center. Our programs were growing, and we were very cost-effective,
but the faculty and staff on the main campus (20 miles away) do not really
know what we do, and they tended to view the Craft Center as a peripheral
luxury. None of them would have stood for serious budget cuts as long as we
were still funded by TTU. We fought the good fight, and we won in a big
way. The postcards Karin and her classmates addressed were sent to the
State Legislature. We collected thousands of defunct craft postcards from
craftspeople all over the world, and pre-addressed and stamped them, and
then sent them out to schools, art centers, libraries, and individuals all
over Tennessee, and they in turn distributed them and had local people write
brief messages and send them off. So the Legislature received thousands of
beautiful postcards of craft items from their constituents all over the
state of Tennessee. Those postcards often ended up on their bulletin
boards. We got their attention in a big way, and things turned dramatically
in our favor. We ended up with a budget independent of TTU, with better
funding than the Center has received since it opened in 1980.
The new budget came through in the summer of 1998, and the following fall
three of the six faculty (myself included) went up for tenure and promotion,
and all received it without question. So we now have five out of six
faculty tenured, and we have far more visibility in the state legislature,
and we are keyed into the higher education funding structure along with all
the state universities and centers of excellence throughout Tennessee. It
has been a very sweet victory.
But regardless of promises and supposedly "permanent" funding structure,
nothing in state government or academia is permanent, so we know it is up to
us to increase our visibility locally and nationally, and to stay within the
good graces of the legislature. That takes hard work, but it is what we do.
We now have a full-time marketing and promotions director, and currently her
primary mission is to work with the legislature. As many of you may know,
Tennessee is currently in real financial trouble because we do not have any
income tax, and the state has given too many tax breaks to big business, and
there simply is not enough income. They are figuring out what to do about
it right now, but a large percentage of the state population is composed of
complete idjuts who think that any kind of tax increase is an affront to
their constitutional rights. Needless to say, it is hard to maintain the
quality of education in that kind of political environment.
For those who have read this far, thanks for reading this far. Come visit
the Craft Center. I am always delighted when Clayarters visit, and I will
give you the royal treatment.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Klyf Brown on mon 29 oct 01
I think you are thinking of Tom Lehrer and his song National
Brotherhood Week. It was one religion hating another, down the line
and "everybody hates the jews"
But during national brotherhood week (chorus twice) Sherif Clark and
Lena Horn are dancing cheek to cheek.
Its fun to euligize those that you despise
Be (cant remember)something and have no fear,
be grateful that it doesn't last all year.
It was written late 50s or early 60s. Tom lehrer was a mathamatition,
not a potter (gotta keep this in the clay thread)
Maybe he stole it from someone else
Klyf Brown, a large Tom Lehrer fan
10/27/01 10:00:29 PM, Dai Scott
wrote:
>>Who was that folksinger who did a "social commentary" type
>song (using
>>other religious and ethnic references) that in this context might go
>>something like .................
>>All the painters hate the photographers,
>>and the photographers hate the painters.
>>All the sculptors hate the printmakers........
>>and everybody hates the potters!
>
>John, I think it was the Kingston Trio, and the commentary was on
political
>leanings?
>Dai in Kelowna, BC, old enough to remember the Kingston Trio.
>
>"There is no right way to do the wrong thing."
>potterybydai@shaw.ca
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Baymore"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 12:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [CLAYART] NHIA and Craft Center get NASAD
accreditation
>
>
>Vince,
>
>
>Somehow I think that both John Baymore and I will manage to
avoid the
>neckties, and hopefully the bored meetings (yes, that was on
purpose) as
>well.
>
>
>The only "board" meetings I like are on a slippery snow covered hill,
28
>F, no wind, 2 feet of fresh powder . And being first
>
>
>
>I cannot even begin to communicate to you and others how lucky I
feel
>that there are very little petty politics and media competition in our
art
>department. Frankly, we enjoy each other's company and have a
great time
>whenever we get together. I know that this is an anomaly within
academia,
>and I love it.
>
>
>
>Interesting....... this kinda describes the Institute too. Glad to hear
>that you have that experience too. All of us who teach there (in
various
>different media) seem to have the same sense that there is little of the
>"infighting" that seemed to pervade many of our other experiences in
the
>academic world. In fact, when we get together we always lament
that we
>never have enough time to get together as a whole group.
>
>It seem like it is usually not so cordial:
>
>Who was that folksinger who did a "social commentary" type song
(using
>other religious and ethnic references) that in this context might go
>something like .................
>
>All the painters hate the photographers,
>
>and the photographers hate the painters.
>
>All the sculptors hate the printmakers........
>
>and everybody hates the potters!
>
>Best,
>
>..............................john
>
>John Baymore
>River Bend Pottery
>22 Riverbend Way
>Wilton, NH 03086 USA
>
>603-654-2752 (s)
>800-900-1110 (s)
>
>JohnBaymore.com
>
>JBaymore@compuserve.com
>John.Baymore@GSD-CO.com
>
>"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop 2002
Dates TBA"
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Marianne Lombardo on mon 29 oct 01
Hmm, I think it may have been the Smothers Brothers, perhaps. I might be
wrong.
Marianne
>
> John, I think it was the Kingston Trio, and the commentary was on
political
> leanings?
> Dai in Kelowna, BC, old enough to remember the Kingston Trio.
>
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