Joyce Lee on mon 6 aug 01
Thanks, Hank. Shoulda known you'd have an awareness of what I was =
talking about in that conglomeration of information and questions.
Now...... is the Curie grid file on display in the archives, do you =
think? I'll look myself tomorrow. I know you and Mel have spoken of =
the "C" corner so I'm assuming there's an "A" "B" etc corner. Anyway, =
sounds interesting and like something I can do.... once I figure out =
what it is.
And I'd probably like the unexpected changes that can occur from perhaps =
not washing the ash....
the unexpected seems to appeal to me.
AND thanks for the info about charcoal. No, I
don't want crusty...... not as of now... although I'd like an =
anagama-fired anything, I think.
Joyce
In the Mojave
Hank Murrow on tue 7 aug 01
Joyce wrote:
>Thanks, Hank. Shoulda known you'd have an awareness of what I was talking
>about in that conglomeration of information and questions.
>
> Now...... is the Curie grid file on display in the archives, do you
>think? I'll look myself tomorrow. I know you and Mel have spoken of the
>"C" corner so I'm assuming there's an "A" "B" etc corner. Anyway, sounds
>interesting and like something I can do.... once I figure out what it is.
****I strongly suggest you het a copy of Ian's book, "Revealing
Glazes" as it has greatly improved this potter's grasp of his materials. I
learned as much during the five years of Currie testing as I did in the
previous 38. Here is the website:
Copies of the book "Revealing Glazes - Using the Grid Method" and
also "Stoneware Glazes - A Systematic Approach" can be purchased by
credit card via the author's website:
http://ian.currie.to/
>
>And I'd probably like the unexpected changes that can occur from perhaps
>not washing the ash....
>the unexpected seems to appeal to me.
****Definitely, and try waxing your pots after they intitially dry
to see if the solubles will induce a pattern in the fire. Similar to what
sodyash-shino potters are doing. BTW, have you tried Hank's Shino yet?
Good Luck, Hank
Joyce Lee on tue 7 aug 01
Hank asked:
> sodyash-shino potters are doing. BTW, have you tried Hank's Shino yet?
Yes, yes, yes...... and I really like what I see..... not compared to your
pots but very, very fine. I didn't get as much of the .... would you call it
gold? yellow?..... as you did. I'm not sending a picture though until I have
Hank's Shino on a better looking pot. The last test included the black with
H's Shino.... and some waxed areas... looked great.... as a glaze..... but
didn't like my pots enough..... not good enough for that glaze! It'll happen
though.... I worked with Mel's Shino, trying to follow his instructions
exactly, for two years before I put together the right pot with a
satisfactory glazing job PLUS (major deal!) a supportive firing
schedule!..... slow learner here..... obviously. Now I find I need to fire
down...
the dance just goes on and on..... and on....
I will order the Curie book. I haven't because I figured it was too
difficult. I recall the first time I read Robin's Ceramic Spectrum ...
couldn't figure out any part of it..... now I use it often when testing....
even showed a few other potters how it worked. Just needed to
focus............. the two-week glaze class from Robin didn't hurt any.....
Joyce
In the Mojave incredibly wordy this week .....
think I'm just a happy duck....... gonna go bake a peach cobbler.... sound
tasty?
Holder, Samuel on tue 7 aug 01
Hank,
I'm interested in Shino. You mentioned Hank's Shino... Couldn't find it in
the archives
Could you tell us the recipe and a description of the result? Perhaps
some variations?
-----Original Message-----
From: Hank Murrow [mailto:hmurrow@EFN.ORG]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:05 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: wood ash etc
Joyce wrote:
>Thanks, Hank. Shoulda known you'd have an awareness of what I was talking
>about in that conglomeration of information and questions.
>
> Now...... is the Curie grid file on display in the archives, do you
>think? I'll look myself tomorrow. I know you and Mel have spoken of the
>"C" corner so I'm assuming there's an "A" "B" etc corner. Anyway, sounds
>interesting and like something I can do.... once I figure out what it is.
****I strongly suggest you het a copy of Ian's book, "Revealing
Glazes" as it has greatly improved this potter's grasp of his materials. I
learned as much during the five years of Currie testing as I did in the
previous 38. Here is the website:
Copies of the book "Revealing Glazes - Using the Grid Method" and
also "Stoneware Glazes - A Systematic Approach" can be purchased by
credit card via the author's website:
http://ian.currie.to/
>
>And I'd probably like the unexpected changes that can occur from perhaps
>not washing the ash....
>the unexpected seems to appeal to me.
****Definitely, and try waxing your pots after they intitially dry
to see if the solubles will induce a pattern in the fire. Similar to what
sodyash-shino potters are doing. BTW, have you tried Hank's Shino yet?
Good Luck, Hank
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Hank Murrow on tue 7 aug 01
>Hank asked:
>> sodyash-shino potters are doing. BTW, have you tried Hank's Shino yet?
>
>Yes, yes, yes...... and I really like what I see..... not compared to your
>pots but very, very fine. I didn't get as much of the .... would you call it
>gold? yellow?..... as you did. I'm not sending a picture though until I have
>Hank's Shino on a better looking pot. The last test included the black with
>H's Shino.... and some waxed areas... looked great.... as a glaze..... but
>didn't like my pots enough..... not good enough for that glaze! It'll happen
>though.... I worked with Mel's Shino, trying to follow his instructions
>exactly, for two years before I put together the right pot with a
>satisfactory glazing job PLUS (major deal!) a supportive firing
>schedule!..... slow learner here..... obviously. Now I find I need to fire
>down...
>the dance just goes on and on..... and on....
>
>I will order the Curie book. I haven't because I figured it was too
>difficult. I recall the first time I read Robin's Ceramic Spectrum ...
>couldn't figure out any part of it..... now I use it often when testing....
>even showed a few other potters how it worked. Just needed to
>focus............. the two-week glaze class from Robin didn't hurt any.....
>
****Hey, Joyce! There's a Currie workshop near you this fall. Here
is the info:
6 & 7 Oct 2001 (Saturday, Sunday)
LAS VEGAS, Nevada
Organizer: Earl Brunner
6298 Apple Orchard Drive,
Las Vegas, NV 89142
bruec@anv.net
Phone:702-431-9258
13 & 14 Oct 2001 (Saturday, Sunday)
SAN DIEGO, California
Organizer: Debbie Nolan
3445 Mt. Carol Drive
San Diego, CA 92111
debbie@vanard.com
Tel/fax work: 619-298-1593
Tel work: 619-291-5571 x25
Tel home: 858-571-5856
Pat/Kent on tue 7 aug 01
Hi Joyce and others
Just a note on another way to introduce wood ash into your fireing
repetoire.
I have had a good bit of luck with useing raw unwashed fireplace wood
ashes. They are just sifted through an old flour sifter to take out really
big chunks. Then I put them in an old cheese shaker (the kind with several
holes in the lid) and gently tap the bottle so I won't get lines or blobs.
I use glazed or natural clay surface. This results in a matt to semi-gloss
spotted finish. I have only fired them to a ^10, so that is my only
reference. I use shino and temoku (sp?) and the ash leaves a mossy green
spatter on these glazes. I would be careful about how much ash you use, as
the ash might instegate a running problem.
Good luck with your trials.
Pat Porter
pporter@4dv.net
Aurora CO USA
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