Valice Raffi on fri 1 jun 01
Chris,
setting the tile directly on the stucco will be fine if the stucco is in
good shape.
I've just discovered a great adhesive for this - Flex Bond. I got it at a
tile company. Just mixed with water, spread it where the tile was to go
and scored the mortar. I also "buttered" the tiles as children made them &
they were uneven thicknesses. I duct taped the tile to the wall for about
an hour & then removed the tape. I also used the Flex Bond as grout
between the tiles and around the outside. Loved it!
Valice
in Sacramento, CA, USA
(usual disclaimers)
Paul Lewing on fri 1 jun 01
Chris,
If you want to someday move the piece, mount it on plywood, otherwise
don't use wood. A better solution than either plywood or mounting
directly to the stucco would be to screw a sheet of tile backer board,
such as WonderBoard, HardiBacker, or some such, then mount your tile on
that. This gets around the problem of the stucco possibly coming loose
from the wall, as well as the problem that the wood will swell in the
wet, while the tile will not. And also, you can then use thin-set
cement as a glue, which will hold far better on the backer board and far
better than any glue designed to work with wood.
Good luck,
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Snail Scott on fri 1 jun 01
Chris-
Stucco should be fine as a base for direct installation.
(Note: I've never done a whole wall, but if the stucco
and wall structure are in good condition, it should be
fine.) Each part of the stucco is only holding up the
tile attached to it, after all, and the forces are acting
downward, not outward. If the stucco was applied properly,
The evenly-distributed load of flat tiles should be just
fine.
I've also done murals backed onto plywood, in sections,
for future portability. The portability aspect will
probably depend on whether you think you'll be moving,
and will want to take it with you. Installing the tiles
on a piece of plywood in the comfort of the studio was
nice, but installing the finished item, with molly
bolts or huge screws into studs, was NOT fun. I prefer
being able to just stick the tiles on the wall directly.
-Snail
At 08:05 AM 6/2/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi all,
> I've decided to do a tile piece, for myself. In the entry way up to
my front door I have an enclosed, sort of, area. It's covered by a trellis
and creeping trumpet plant, walls on both sides and plant over top. The
wall is stucco, and about ten or fifteen feet long. I want to do a largish
tile piece for one side of this wall.
> I'm not sure how to set it, can I set it directly to the wall or
should I set it on wood and then attach it some how. I'm at a loss, I've
set a floor with my own tiles but never a vertical surface. Not sure if
stucco can hold the weight. thanks chris
>
>
>
>temecula, california
>chris@ccpots.com
> www.ccpots.com
>
>
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on sat 2 jun 01
Hi Chris,
Here in the USA Southwest, stucco homes are built several ways. They can be "stick and stucco", which is wood framing with styrofoam and chicken wire as the surface behind the stucco. More exotic is rammed earth or hay bales beneath the stucco. I would put cementboard or other as a strong surface underneath. In my opinion, if you
have cement block behind the stucco, then you should be safe to apply the tiles to it.
Joanne in Tucson
Chris Clarke wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've decided to do a tile piece, for myself. In the entry way up to my front door I have an enclosed, sort of, area. It's covered by a trellis and creeping trumpet plant, walls on both sides and plant over top. The wall is stucco, and about ten or fifteen feet long. I want to do a largish tile piece for one side of this wall.
> I'm not sure how to set it, can I set it directly to the wall or should I set it on wood and then attach it some how. I'm at a loss, I've set a floor with my own tiles but never a vertical surface. Not sure if stucco can hold the weight. thanks chris
>
> temecula, california
> chris@ccpots.com
> www.ccpots.com
>
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Chris Clarke on sat 2 jun 01
Hi all,
I've decided to do a tile piece, for myself. In the entry way up to =
my front door I have an enclosed, sort of, area. It's covered by a =
trellis and creeping trumpet plant, walls on both sides and plant over =
top. The wall is stucco, and about ten or fifteen feet long. I want to =
do a largish tile piece for one side of this wall.
I'm not sure how to set it, can I set it directly to the wall or =
should I set it on wood and then attach it some how. I'm at a loss, =
I've set a floor with my own tiles but never a vertical surface. Not =
sure if stucco can hold the weight. thanks chris
temecula, california
chris@ccpots.com
www.ccpots.com
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