eartharr on tue 27 feb 01
In making my own web page I find myself in a dilemma about where to =
place the counter. Most people seem to place it on the home page. I'm =
thinking about putting it on my purchase/info page. I'm most interested =
in how many people actually look through the pages and arrive at the =
purchase information, activating the counter at that point. Also am I =
correct in thinking that counters are only activated for the page that =
they are placed on? I think that I would rather not know of those that =
just happen to wander through. Any opinions out there in Clayart land?
I plan on putting adds in magazines to promote my web site and the =
counter will be a useful tool to give me an idea how well my add money =
is doing.
Ed Kraft
Earth Arrangements
2109 39th St
Bellingham, WA 98226
360 734-6839 ph 360 647 0416 fax
eartharr@msn.com
Marie Gibbons on tue 27 feb 01
Ed,
yes, counters just show the hit on the page it is placed on.... so if you
want to know the full realm of your visits you should put a counter on each
page... the freebies anyway, i have heard of some tracking things you can put
on that will tell where the person went thru your site during their visit,
but those are the kinds you pay for.
marie
www.oooladies.com
Frank Gaydos on tue 27 feb 01
Ed,
I believe they count only the pages you have them on.
Why not post one on each page?
That way you can compare, home page to purchase page.
Frank Gaydos
----- Original Message -----
From: "eartharr"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 11:28 AM
Subject: Web Page counters
In making my own web page I find myself in a dilemma about where to place
the counter. Most people seem to place it on the home page. I'm thinking
about putting it on my purchase/info page. I'm most interested in how many
people actually look through the pages and arrive at the purchase
information, activating the counter at that point. Also am I correct in
thinking that counters are only activated for the page that they are placed
on? I think that I would rather not know of those that just happen to wander
through. Any opinions out there in Clayart land?
I plan on putting adds in magazines to promote my web site and the counter
will be a useful tool to give me an idea how well my add money is doing.
Ed Kraft
Earth Arrangements
2109 39th St
Bellingham, WA 98226
360 734-6839 ph 360 647 0416 fax
eartharr@msn.com
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May Herz on tue 27 feb 01
Hi all,
I'm new to the list and enjoy reading all your posts.
There is a free service by Webtrends, in which you insert or paste a code
(very simple) on your pages & keeps track of practically everything that
goes one in your website: number of visitors, most requested pages,
countries, referrers...etc. You can check your reports at any time.
www.webtrendslive.com
May Herz
www.mexicanceramic.com
may@mexicanceramic.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Gaydos"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Web Page counters
> Ed,
> I believe they count only the pages you have them on.
> Why not post one on each page?
> That way you can compare, home page to purchase page.
> Frank Gaydos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "eartharr"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 11:28 AM
> Subject: Web Page counters
>
>
> In making my own web page I find myself in a dilemma about where to place
> the counter. Most people seem to place it on the home page. I'm thinking
> about putting it on my purchase/info page. I'm most interested in how many
> people actually look through the pages and arrive at the purchase
> information, activating the counter at that point. Also am I correct in
> thinking that counters are only activated for the page that they are
placed
> on? I think that I would rather not know of those that just happen to
wander
> through. Any opinions out there in Clayart land?
>
> I plan on putting adds in magazines to promote my web site and the counter
> will be a useful tool to give me an idea how well my add money is doing.
>
> Ed Kraft
> Earth Arrangements
> 2109 39th St
> Bellingham, WA 98226
> 360 734-6839 ph 360 647 0416 fax
> eartharr@msn.com
>
>
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Wesley C. Rolley on wed 28 feb 01
At 01:04 AM 2/28/01 -0000, Janet Kaiser wrote:
>Ed
>
>You can do both. A counter on the home page and
>any other/s you select.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>In making my own web page I find myself in a
>dilemma about where to place the counter.
Counters are a two edged sword. A counter that displays to the public can
be a turnoff if it shows some informaiton like "000123 visitis since
6/1/2000" That immediately tells the viewer that this site does not draw
much use and that those who do visit do not come back. I have built sites
for many companies and was technical director for a dotcom startup. I
would never put a counter on a page that is visible to the public.
There are a number of statistical programs that are available which give
you not only the count of page hits, but also such interesting information
as the URL of the page the person was viewing when they linked to your
site. If that URL indicated that they user came from YAHOO, Google, Lycos,
Altavista, etc. the report program is generally able to tell you the
search words that the user was using when they found your site. If the URL
says that they reached you from your local chamber of commerce's site, then
make sure you renew your membership, it is bringing you viewers, if not yet
sales.
Some of these reporting programs are Freeware, some are low priced
Shareware and there are also a few Aston Martins with prices to match. I
would ask your intenet service provider what statistics they normally
collect and what reporting programs they recommend. For some Web Servers
(like Apache), the default is to NOT collect the referring URL. It would
have to be turned on by the server owner. Also, the reporting programs
differ depending on the server that is being used. However, most service
providers use either Apache or Microsoft's Enterprise Server.
Just an opinion based on experience.
Wes
Wes Rolley
"Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and,
if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore
http://www.refpub.com
Janet Kaiser on wed 28 feb 01
Ed
You can do both. A counter on the home page and
any other/s you select. You just have to submit
each URL/page separately. It is tiresome to set
up if you have many pages, but it is an option.
That is unless the counter provider insists it
is in a "prominent position" on the home page.
Maybe that is why I originally ended up placing
it on the home page and nowhere else? I don't
remember.
But I can tell you, if I was setting out again,
I would put a web counter like XOOM on the home
page (which has brilliant statistics inc. the
hits from individual countries, the most popular
day (Tuesday), which browsers & versions are
used, etc.) and then a simple counter like LE on
each of the other pages.
As The CoA web site now has over 80 pages, this
is no longer an option for me. Wish I had
thought it through from the start... Acquiring a
counter for each successive page built would not
have been too much trouble, whereas to register
them now would be very time consuming indeed.
Good luck with your building.
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
----- Original Message -----
In making my own web page I find myself in a
dilemma about where to place the counter. Most
people seem to place it on the home page. I'm
thinking about putting it on my purchase/info
page. I'm most interested in how many people
actually look through the pages and arrive at
the purchase information, activating the counter
at that point. Also am I correct in thinking
that counters are only activated for the page
that they are placed on? I think that I would
rather not know of those that just happen to
wander through. Any opinions out there in
Clayart land?
Bill Weaver on fri 2 mar 01
ED,
I got to this a little late but I tried a number of page counter strategies
and never got the info I needed. I later found Hitbox.com and have been very
happy. They provide a free snip of code that puts a graphic box on each
page. The code collects info on people moving through the site and places it
in a tabular and graphic form on a page Hitbox gives you. They have a
number of choices I use the free version which results in the box mentioned
above. I placed the box "below the fold" to make it as inconspicuous as
possible. They have an invisible version also but it costs around
$18.00/month. I have looked at other companies and Hitbox ofers the info I
want. The info helps me see how people move throughmy site and more
importantly now what browser versions they have and the plugins they have
instaled. This helps since am totally redesigning my site and will be using
a fair amount of java script.
If you want to see what it looks like check it out on my site. You can also
click on the graphic icon on any of my pages and it will take you directly
to their main site.
My url is: http://palemoonstudio.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "eartharr"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Web Page counters
In making my own web page I find myself in a dilemma about where to place
the counter. Most people seem to place it on the home page. I'm thinking
about putting it on my purchase/info page. I'm most interested in how many
people actually look through the pages and arrive at the purchase
information, activating the counter at that point. Also am I correct in
thinking that counters are only activated for the page that they are placed
on? I think that I would rather not know of those that just happen to wander
through. Any opinions out there in Clayart land?
I plan on putting adds in magazines to promote my web site and the counter
will be a useful tool to give me an idea how well my add money is doing.
Ed Kraft
Earth Arrangements
2109 39th St
Bellingham, WA 98226
360 734-6839 ph 360 647 0416 fax
eartharr@msn.com
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