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taking control of our careers (wasmel and madonna)

updated sat 17 feb 01

 

Eydie DeVincenzi on thu 15 feb 01


Diane, thank you for bringing this thread back to clay. Good
point. Her ability to do MUCH MORE than to just "hang in and wait" for
something to happen. She did her homework, found out what was BEING
DONE, turned in the opposite direction, created her OWN rules and
market and commenced to grab the world by it's purse. Fake it
until you Make it!



I can relate. I too would rather be paving my own road than cruising
on a busy freeway. And I consider it a compliment when people
call me and my work "different". I do not
do competition and s-a-l-e is a four-letter word. I'd
rather create a new game than memorize someone else's rules.
After five years of near starvation sticking to my passion, the
rewards are trickling in for me.



Eydie

As the cowboys ride into town, feeling like the only Democrat left in
Washington, DC

----- Original Message -----


From: Diane Echlin


To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG

Sent: 2/15/01 4:28:25 PM

Subject: Re: Mel and Madonna





Eydie DeVincenzi wrote:

Recently, I heard someone use the same madonna quote (lowercase mis
meaningful g

). But sadly the person had reverence in his



voice. I looked sadly at the poor young man and wondered
what this

says about us as a society when we start quoting the likes of
madonna

WITHOUT our tongues firmly lodged in our cheeks?



Eydie,

While I understand that much of what Madonna produces is of questionable
value, I

have to point out that if we potters took control of our destinies the way
Madonna

has taken control of her life, perhaps we would be slightly more satisfied
with our

situations. Disclaimer: I generally do not enjoy her music, nor
do I think her

videos are great. However, she has managed to develop her
persona, control,

develop, and edit her productss, and made a load to take to the bank along
the

way. This woman has been in the public eye for at least 20
years, which in my

opinion is rare indeed. She sets her objectives and then makes
it all happen. She

doesn't complain that she didn't get paid enough for her first forays in
The Biz:

she figured out a way to be involved and in a controlling
position. For this I

regard her as a great role model despite the fact that I dislike her
product.



Did I get too off topic?

Diane in CT





Eydie



"I hate instant gratification, it is too
slow." madonna.



"I hate madonna, she's too shallow." Eydie



----- Original Message -----



From: mel jacobson



To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG



Sent: 2/14/01 7:06:44 PM



Subject: tea bowls and classical

music



some people like country western music. they like
cowboy

boots



and short skirts. some people like rock and roll and
green

hair.



spike up your nose.



who cares?...like what you like, it becomes you...you become it.



but, tea bowls, old ones from japan are like

mozart. classical.



if you don't care or understand...step aside. some
people

do



care, and appreciate.



you won't find great tea bowls (chawan style) in store fronts



or gadget shops in Tokyo. they are not part of the
tourist

trade.



the great pots are hidden....not for your eyes. you could
live

in



Tokyo for ten years and never see one.



one of the great moments of my life was at Mr. Amanda's

home. he



showed me tea bowls.....real ones. to make you

cry. mozart.



i saw great tea bowls that came out of boxes in homes in
Kyoto...just



average people, `oh, this pot belonged to my great
grandfather,

it is



very special, we take very good care of it. it belongs to
our

family.`



rock and roll and tourist crap can be found anywhere. but,
in

many places



on this earth, classical things still exist. they are to
be

honored and



respected.



maturity, knowledge, experience all help to assist us in learning
to



respect great art, music, dance, craft.



no artist crafts person can live in a vacuum. if you do,
well,

your work



will be as that vacuum.



the old pots of Europe, jugs, salt ware, the wonderful majolica
of

Spain,



the elegant porcelains of Germany and France....things to look
at,



study, copy. classical in their history. they are the pots
that

made us.



i love looking at the old pots of the Carolinas, classical in form,
just

as



they were needed, to be used.



potters need to look at all of it. respect history and what
made

us.



this is an old theme for me, but i believe in it very much.



we live in a society that wants the moment. or as madonna
once

said...



`i hate instant gratification, it is too slow.`



mel



From:



Minnesota, Minnesota, U.S.A.



web site: http://www.pclink.com/melpots




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