Paul Lewing on sun 11 feb 01
Christine,
Why wax them at all? I've always found it much faster and easier to
scrape the edges with a knife and sponge the backs after they were
glazed.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Elca Branman on sun 11 feb 01
One possibility..1) take 2 pieces of wire and shape them into l_l.
Plan on the bottom part of the form to be the size of your tile..now
bring the loose ends together to form a triangle and you slide the tile
onto two of these, dip it in the wax by holding the tops of the triangle
with both hands...
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:26:55 -0800 CHRISTINE LAGINESS
writes:
> I am making several hundred tiles and i would much
> rather dip my tiles in hot wax, than to brush them
> with wax resist.
>
> Does anyone know of a pair of tongs or other tool
> which will allow me to dip the tiles without burning
> my fingers?
>
> thanks for your help
>
> christine
>
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Ceramic Design Group on sun 11 feb 01
on 2/11/01 2:26 PM, CHRISTINE LAGINESS at chris1clay@YAHOO.COM wrote:
> I am making several hundred tiles and i would much
> rather dip my tiles in hot wax, than to brush them
> with wax resist.
>
> Does anyone know of a pair of tongs or other tool
> which will allow me to dip the tiles without burning
> my fingers?
>
> thanks for your help
There is a tool called "the vacuum hand" that will hold the tiles upside
down as you dip them into the wax. RAM Products manufactures the unit (a
small compressor, the hose, and the hand) and you can purchase it from
Axner.
Best
Jonathan
Marcia Selsor on sun 11 feb 01
Hi, Christine,
I used a pair of glaze tongs to dip my 4 x 4 tiles into hot wax. I did
drop one once in a while but I'd bisque it in a small test kiln to clean
off the wax. I glazed 240 some tiles that way.
Marcia
CHRISTINE LAGINESS wrote:
>
> I am making several hundred tiles and i would much
> rather dip my tiles in hot wax, than to brush them
> with wax resist.
>
> Does anyone know of a pair of tongs or other tool
> which will allow me to dip the tiles without burning
> my fingers?
>
> thanks for your help
>
> christine
>
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CHRISTINE LAGINESS on sun 11 feb 01
I am making several hundred tiles and i would much
rather dip my tiles in hot wax, than to brush them
with wax resist.
Does anyone know of a pair of tongs or other tool
which will allow me to dip the tiles without burning
my fingers?
thanks for your help
christine
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Peg Landham on mon 12 feb 01
I didn't like either option (waxing or wiping,) so on my last tile mural I
came up with this option:
I tore off pieces of waxed paper to a size slightly smaller than the tiles,
ran 1-1/2" wide masking tape around the perimeter of the tile at exactly the
line where I wanted the glaze to stop, then folded the tape around to the
back, over the piece of waxed paper. Running a finger along the edges of the
tape will ensure a tight seal and prevent glaze leaks, but a little drip
here and there is much easier to clean off than the whole back of the tile.
Peg Landham
Birmingham, AL, USA
Paul Lewing on mon 12 feb 01
Martin Howard wrote:
>
> Paul says:-
> > scrape the edges with a knife and sponge the backs after they were
> glazed.>
>
> How do you then save the slip/glaze which you sponge off?
>
> Or is that just waste? Just like the time spent sponging off?
Martin,
if I were glazing my tiles with a single glaze, I'd just scrape it onto
a piece of paper, dry it out, and mix it into the next batch I made.
But in fact, there are multiple glazes on my tiles, and you're right, I
do get a lot of scrap glaze. I try to hit my rinse bucket with it as I
scrape, but there's actually quite a pile of coarse glaze chips behind
there. Periodically I wet it all down and use it. I make several
colors from my scrap and eventually use it all. I also use the chips as
a decorative technique. When the tiles are cleaned off and ready to go
in the kiln, I dump these chips on with a spoon in places where I want a
very textured, granular color look.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Cindy Strnad on mon 12 feb 01
Maybe I'm missing something here . . . if one figures out a way to dip the
tiles in hot wax without getting wax on the top, wouldn't it maybe be just
as simple to figure out how to dip the tiles in glaze without getting any on
the sides and back?
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
Rod, Marian, and Holly Morris on mon 12 feb 01
It's hard to imagine how this would be easier than brushing the glaze on. A
little cmc gum in the glaze makes it brush on very smoothly.
Marian in Michigan
Gayle Bair on mon 12 feb 01
Hi Christine,
I agree with Paul.
Last week I experimented with using
bee's wax with a bit of mineral oil.
I am now convinced it is indeed easier
and faster to scrape and sponge.
Also I found the reason glaze seems to "jump"
off the pot onto the shelf! I deliberately left
some glaze spots on top of a waxed area
to test my theory. I now have many spots
to scrape off my shelf!
Another drawback to using wax is having
residue wax on your fingers then picking
up a bisqued piece to glaze. I used to
wonder why the glaze popped onto the shelf
or crawled!
I use a piece of damp dense sponge but you can
use a towel or even a piece of rug on your table
then wipe or twist your foot or tile on it.
I am returning to my sponge methods and will
reserve waxing for decorative use.
Gayle Bair- Bainbridge Island WA enjoying another
sunny day but wishing we'd get some rain!
Christine,
Why wax them at all? I've always found it much faster and easier to
scrape the edges with a knife and sponge the backs after they were
glazed.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Martin Howard on mon 12 feb 01
Paul says:-
scrape the edges with a knife and sponge the backs after they were
glazed.>
How do you then save the slip/glaze which you sponge off?
Or is that just waste? Just like the time spent sponging off?
I would like to see/find/buy something that will hold my leather hard ware
for dipping in wax (beeswax and vegetable oil) and then while I dip in slip
or glaze.
Thinking of the usual pointed tongs but with soft pads attached.
Martin Howard
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
Stephani Stephenson on tue 13 feb 01
We glaze raw tile with single glazes. No wax. Our tile thickness
ranges from 3/8 inch to one inch depending on the size of the tile and
whether it is field tile or relief tile. Technique we use is as follows.
It helps to put glaze in rectangular plastic containers, the kind with
walls about six to eight inches high.Those simple plastic storage
containers , sweater boxes or under the bed containers, depending on
which size suits you . Make sure it is wide enough for the tile and
also for your hands to maneuver. Make sure glaze is mixed well and
doesn't separate. Viscosity at the top and bottom should be consistent.
Keep a squeegee or wide spatula to periodicaly rake through glaze.
Grasp tile in hand, fingers on the sides. The tile will go face down
into glaze but will not be submerged. You only want to glaze the top
face and a sixteenth to a quarter inch of the sides Don't just plop it
in . Think of an airplane landing, rather than a helicopter landing.
Lead with one side. in one nice graceful motion lay it in,bring it
out,. Plane landing, pausing momentarily, plane taking off. Then give it
a gentle shake. If any glaze has dripped further down the side then
you simply use your finger or a sponge or a wet scruffie pad to wipe
the sides. . Then set the tile down. It all happens in one smooth
motion. The tile is set down before the glaze dries. Very little waste.
Here is another trick which I never saw in a college studio.
When loading the kiln there is a bar stool with a wooden seat next to
the kiln door. There is a real ugly piece of carpet attached to the
seat. The carpet is damp. When tiles are loaded into the kiln, if some
glaze drips are on the bottom, the tile is drawn across the carpet on
the way into the kiln. No more drips, not much wasted effort and time.
Stephani Stephenson
http://www.alchemiestudio.com
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Steve Mills on tue 13 feb 01
I use a pair of Barbecue tongs, works a treat.
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
>
>On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:26:55 -0800 CHRISTINE LAGINESS
> writes:
>> I am making several hundred tiles and i would much
>> rather dip my tiles in hot wax, than to brush them
>> with wax resist.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a pair of tongs or other tool
>> which will allow me to dip the tiles without burning
>> my fingers?
>>
>> thanks for your help
>>
>> christine
>>
>>
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Marcia Selsor on tue 13 feb 01
Cindi,
This is a good point. I have dipped larger 8 x 8 terra cotta tiles into
majolica without wax. This glaze was treated with epson salts and stayed
stable, no settling, for a long time. When I was dipping stoneware tiles
in glazes they did settle after a while. Probably could have used epson
salts, but I know the right consistency of stoneware glazes I have used
for 20+ years and adding epson salts would have changed that. The wax on
stoneware tiles wasn't so difficult and made glazing go simply. I guess
you just work with what you know.
Marcia
Cindy Strnad wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm missing something here . . . if one figures out a way to dip the
> tiles in hot wax without getting wax on the top, wouldn't it maybe be just
> as simple to figure out how to dip the tiles in glaze without getting any on
> the sides and back?
>
> Cindy Strnad
> Earthen Vessels Pottery
> RR 1, Box 51
> Custer, SD 57730
> USA
> earthenv@gwtc.net
> http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
>
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KLeSueur@AOL.COM on wed 21 feb 01
I wax the bottoms of all flat pieces easily by using the following method: I
suspend a paint roller (medium nap) in an electric frying pan. I just cut a
wire coat hanger, threaded it through the roller, and bent it with wire
pliers to hang on the edges of the pan. Melt a mixture of beeswax and
parrafin (I take it to about 340 degrees, but experiment to get the right
temperature) and spin the roller slowly until it is coated with hot wax. Then
just roll the pieces over the roller. Practice on scrap pieces until you get
the hang of it. I can wax a whole kiln load of flat pieces in about 15
minutes.
Kathi LeSueur
Ann Arbor, MI
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